Jack and Matt sit down with How to Get Away with Murder creator Pete Nowalk for a deep-dive chat into how the iconic pilot came together. Pete revisits the whirlwind of developing the story, figuring out the show’s signature flash-forward structure, and the early uncertainty over whether audiences would connect with such a morally complicated world. He shares behind-the-scenes stories about shaping Annalise Keating, navigating network notes, and the nerve-racking process of casting a lead who could command the series’ emotional and intellectual intensity. Packed with anecdotes about collaboration, creative risk, and trusting bold instincts, the episode offers fans a rare look at the making of a television pilot that changed the landscape of network drama forever.We want to hear from you! Send us your show and episode questions for the chance to be read on the air during an episode: [email protected] Matt & Jack:IG @jackfalaheeTIKTOK @jackfalaheeX @RestingPlatypusREDDIT u/ItsMeJackFalaheeINSTAGRAM @mattmcgorryTIKTOK @matt.mcgorryX @MattMcGorryFacebook: @ActorMattMcGorryBig thank you to our sponsors!Hero Bread: This year, hit your goals without giving up your favorite bready dishes. Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code JACKANDMATT at checkout.This podcast is brought to you by Podcast Nation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.