<p>In this episode of <em>Lunch with Leaders</em>, host <a href="⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/adaeze-iloeje-udeogalanya⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Adaeze Iloeje-Udeogalanya</strong>⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> interviews psychologist<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ncazelo-ncube-49412751/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong> Ncazelo Ncube-Milo</strong></a>.</p><p>Internationally recognized for her culturally sensitive trauma work, Ncazelo discusses the global impact of the <strong>Tree of Life methodology</strong>, now used in 30+ countries.</p><p>The conversation explores <strong>narrative healing</strong>, the power of storytelling in recovery, and how reclaiming cultural identity leads to personal transformation. </p><p>This episode offers a unique perspective on leadership through community healing and the &quot;re-authoring&quot; of one&#39;s life story in 2026.</p><p><br></p><p>Who is this for?</p><p>This content is for <strong>mental health professionals, community leaders, and women in STEM</strong> seeking culturally sensitive approaches to healing.</p><p>It is relevant for those dealing with trauma or identity challenges who want to move beyond &quot;problem-saturated&quot; narratives and reconnect with their inherent strengths.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps</p><ul><li><p><strong>01:29</strong> – Intro to Ncazelo Ndlovu and her international trauma work.</p></li><li><p><strong>03:51</strong> – Origins of the Tree of Life methodology in Zimbabwe.</p></li><li><p><strong>05:57</strong> – The Tree metaphor: Roots, Heritage, and Hopes.</p></li><li><p><strong>07:51</strong> – What is Narrative Therapy? Moving beyond the &quot;problem story.&quot;</p></li><li><p><strong>09:36</strong> – Reconnecting with &quot;second stories&quot; and personal agency.</p></li><li><p><strong>11:54</strong> – Previewing the workshop for women in STEM.</p></li><li><p><strong>14:48</strong> – The power of witnessing and communal healing.</p></li><li><p><strong>35:42</strong> – Closing remarks and how to support the mission.</p><p><br></p><p>FAQs</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>What is the Tree of Life methodology?</strong></p><p>A counseling tool using tree metaphors to help people talk about their strengths and heritage without being overwhelmed by trauma.</p></li><li><p><strong>How does Narrative Therapy differ from traditional therapy?</strong></p><p>It helps individuals separate themselves from their problems and find &quot;alternative stories&quot; of hope and skill.</p></li><li><p><strong>Can this work in professional settings?</strong></p><p>Yes. Ncazelo helps leaders rediscover their &quot;magic sauce&quot; and align their work with core values.</p><p><br></p><p>Action Steps</p></li></ul><ol><li><p><strong>Map Your Roots</strong>: Write down the traditions and people that make you strong.</p></li><li><p><strong>Identify Your &quot;Second Story&quot;</strong>: Intentionally look for a story of a time you were successful or hopeful when facing a problem.</p></li><li><p><strong>Practice Witnessing</strong>: Listen to a colleague&#39;s story without judgment, focusing on their demonstrated strengths.</p></li><li><p><strong>Join the Workshop</strong>: Participate in the upcoming Tree of Life session to experience narrative healing firsthand.</p><p><strong>Audit Your Narrative</strong>: Ask yourself, &quot;Is the story I&#39;m telling right now bringing me hope or keeping me stuck?&quot;</p><p><br></p><p>Website: <a href="https://phola.org/ " target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://phola.org</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ncazelo-ncube-49412751/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ncazelo-ncube-49412751</a><br></p></li></ol>