<p>What happened with Anthropic&#39;s Mythos and Fable models? Why did Anthropic&#39;s approach to AI safety trigger such strong backlash? What does this mean for the future of AI regulation? What role does open-source AI play in this new era of AI control? How will this impact Chinese AI labs and open-source AI models?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, I talk with Nathan Lambert, a leading expert on open-source AI. He previously led post-training at Ai2, founded The ATOM Project, and writes the popular Interconnects AI newsletter.</p><p><br></p><p>Topics covered:</p><p>- Anthropic, Mythos, Fable, and the Claude controversy</p><p>- Are Anthropic’s AI safety claims sincere?</p><p>- Silent degradation, trust, and researcher backlash</p><p>- Open science, open-source AI, and safety</p><p>- How will Anthropic&#39;s new safety features impact Chinese AI labs?</p><p>- The “AGI era” of AI governance</p><p>- Is open-source AI safer or riskier?</p><p>- Why US developers use Chinese open-source models</p><p>- What Nathan learned from visiting China’s AI labs</p><p>- Are Chinese AI labs AGI-pilled?Follow Nathan Lambert:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.interconnects.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Interconnects newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.atomproject.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">The ATOM Project</a></li><li>X/Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/natolambert" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">@natolambert</a></li></ul><p>Follow Kyle Chan:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.highcapacity.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">High Capacity newsletter</a></li><li>X/Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/kyleichan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">@kyleichan</a></li><p><br></p></ul><p>#AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Anthropic #mythos #fable #Claude #OpenSourceAI #ChinaAI #AIGovernance #AISafety</p>