12 Steps to Success: Navigating change, uncertainty, and what comes next
12 Steps to Success: Navigating change, uncertainty, and what comes next

12 Steps to Success: Navigating change, uncertainty, and what comes next

Eric Mackay

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What happens when the old definitions of success stop working? 12 Steps to Success is a long-form podcast about identity, purpose, burnout, and the messy, uncertain middle of building a life and career. It explores moments of transition, pressure, reinvention, and recovery, especially when clarity disappears and familiar paths no longer fit. Hosted by Eric Mackay, a senior music industry executive, founder, author, and recovering perfectionist, the show sits between success stories and self-help. These are not highlight reels or tidy frameworks. They are honest conversations with artists, founders, executives, creatives, and operators who have built things, lost things, walked away from roles that looked perfect on paper, and had to rethink who they were along the way. Each episode examines themes including identity, leadership, burnout, sobriety, creativity, pressure, and the quiet recalibrations that happen when life does not go to plan. The focus is not on how people made it, but on how they kept going when certainty disappeared. Eric is not a neutral interviewer. He brings his own lived experience into the room, asking better questions, challenging assumptions, and staying with discomfort rather than rushing to resolution. The tone is reflective, occasionally funny, sometimes raw, and deliberately unscripted. This is a podcast for people in transition. For anyone questioning success, navigating change, or trying to build something meaningful without losing themselves in the process. New episodes are released weekly during each season, with breaks between seasons. Learn more at twelvestepstosuccess.com and on Instagram @twelvestepstosuccess.

Recent Episodes

When Things Fall Apart and You Have to Rebuild (ft. Nyeesha D. Williams)
FEB 3, 2026
When Things Fall Apart and You Have to Rebuild (ft. Nyeesha D. Williams)
<p>This conversation with Nyeesha D. Williams explores what happens when the structures you’ve relied on begin to fall apart, and the work required to rebuild without rushing to make sense of it too quickly. </p><p>We talk about setbacks and how disorienting they can feel when the path you were on suddenly stops making sense. About loss, disruption, and the pressure to keep moving forward even when you’re unsure what you’re rebuilding toward. Nyeesha reflects on moments where certainty disappeared, plans unraveled, and the focus shifted from outcomes to honesty about where she really was. </p><p>There is a recurring theme in this episode around rebuilding without performance. Around resisting the urge to frame difficulty as growth too quickly, and instead allowing space for grief, recalibration, and quieter forms of resilience. Rather than searching for neat lessons, this conversation stays with the reality of rebuilding slowly and with integrity when things do not go to plan. </p><p></p><p>What Comes Up In the Conversation: </p><p>In this episode, we talk about: </p><p>- Navigating setbacks without rushing to reframe them </p><p>- The emotional cost of holding things together when they are already breaking </p><p>- Rebuilding identity and direction after disruption </p><p>- Leadership in moments of uncertainty and loss </p><p>- Finding steadiness again without pretending clarity has arrived </p><p></p><p>About Nyeesha D. Williams: </p><p>Nyeesha D. Williams is a leader, operator, and community builder working at the intersection of purpose, culture, and connection. Her work focuses on creating spaces where people can be honest about where they are, particularly during periods of change, disruption, and transition. She is the founder of The HAUS, a membership-based community designed to support people navigating growth and leadership without pressure to perform certainty or resilience before they are ready. </p><p></p><p>Links &amp; Resources: </p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nyeeshawilliams.com">https://www.nyeeshawilliams.com</a> </p><p>LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram: @nyeeshad </p><p>The HAUS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.jointhehaus.com">https://www.jointhehaus.com</a> </p><p>Instagram: @jointhehaus </p><p></p><p>About the Podcast: </p><p>12 Steps to Success is a podcast about what happens when the path you were on stops making sense. Hosted by Eric Mackay, the show centres on honest conversations with people navigating change, pressure, identity shifts, recovery, and redefinition. These are not success stories or instruction manuals, but real conversations about how people live inside uncertainty and keep moving without false certainty. </p><p></p><p>Stay Connected: </p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://twelvestepstosuccess.com">https://twelvestepstosuccess.com</a> </p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess">https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess</a></p>
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44 MIN
When Momentum Stops Feeling Like Progress (ft. Chris Brereton)
JAN 27, 2026
When Momentum Stops Feeling Like Progress (ft. Chris Brereton)
<p>This conversation with <strong>Christopher Brereton</strong> centres on what happens when the identity you built your life around no longer fits as cleanly as it once did. </p><p>We talk about momentum and how easily it can turn into something you hide behind. About being known for a particular role, skill, or output, and the quiet unease that can surface when you realise you are still moving, still producing, but no longer sure who that movement is really serving. Christopher reflects on moments where forward motion stopped feeling like progress and started to feel like avoidance. </p><p>There is a recurring tension in this episode between building and becoming. Between the satisfaction of creating systems, companies, and portfolios, and the harder work of asking what kind of life those systems are meant to support. Rather than chasing reinvention, this conversation stays with the discomfort of re examination and the patience required to let a more honest direction emerge. </p><p></p><p><strong>What comes up in the conversation </strong></p><p>In this episode, we talk about: </p><ul><li>Momentum as both a strength and a defence mechanism</li><li>Identity beyond titles, roles, and output</li><li>The pressure to keep building even when direction feels unclear</li><li>A portfolio mindset applied to work and life</li><li>Slowing down long enough to ask harder questions about impact</li></ul><p></p><p><strong>About Christopher Brereton </strong></p><p>Christopher Brereton is a fractional product and operations leader working at the intersection of product, energy, health, and long term impact. His work is guided by a portfolio mindset and a clear purpose of amplifying positive impact for people and the planet. </p><p>Christopher currently leads energy management systems work at MARA and serves as Head of Portfolio Acceleration at MOHARA. He is the founder of Product Hang Partners and is building The Folder, a platform rethinking estate planning as a living system rather than a static document. </p><p></p><p><strong>Links &amp; resources: </strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://christopherbrereton.com">https://christopherbrereton.com</a></li><li>Product Hang Partners: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://producthang.com/">http://producthang.com/</a></li><li>MARA: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://mara.com/">http://mara.com/</a></li><li>MOHARA: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://mohara.co/">http://mohara.co/</a></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>About the podcast </strong></p><p>12 Steps to Success is a podcast about what happens when the path you were on stops making sense. </p><p>Hosted by Eric Mackay, the show centres on honest conversations with people navigating change, pressure, identity shifts, recovery, and redefinition. These are not success stories or instruction manuals, but real conversations about how people live inside uncertainty and keep moving without false certainty. </p><p></p><p><strong>Stay connected </strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://twelvestepstosuccess.com">https://twelvestepstosuccess.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess">https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess</a></li></ul>
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You Can’t Rush Clarity (ft. Mo Hiromoto)
JAN 20, 2026
You Can’t Rush Clarity (ft. Mo Hiromoto)
<p>This conversation with <strong>Mo Hiromoto</strong> sits inside a familiar but often unspoken place. Knowing that something needs to change, without yet having language for what that change looks like.</p><p>We talk about what happens when momentum keeps you moving but leaves little room to listen. About staying busy, staying capable, staying productive, while slowly losing contact with what you actually want. Mo reflects on the experience of quieting the noise, not to arrive at quick clarity, but to make space for it to emerge in its own time.</p><p>There is a strong thread in this conversation around patience. With yourself. With the process. With the uncertainty that comes before decisions feel solid. Rather than chasing outcomes, we spend time on what it means to notice signals, question inherited expectations, and resist the urge to rush forward just to feel resolved.</p><p>This episode lives in that in-between space, where nothing is fully formed yet, but something is clearly asking for attention.</p><p></p><p><strong>What comes up in the conversation</strong></p><p>In this episode, we talk about:</p><ul><li>Why clarity cannot be rushed, and what happens when you try</li><li>Staying stuck out of fear, even when movement feels necessary</li><li>Learning to listen beneath noise, obligation, and expectation</li><li>First generation wellness and the work of changing patterns</li><li>Creating space for joy without treating it as something to earn</li></ul><p></p><p><strong>About Mo Hiromoto</strong></p><p>Mo Hiromoto is a wellness coach and educator whose work focuses on self awareness, intentional change, and helping people reconnect with what matters to them when navigating transition or uncertainty.</p><p></p><p><strong>Links &amp; resources:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>First Generation Wellness:</strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.firstgenerationwellness.com/">https://www.firstgenerationwellness.com/</a></li><li><strong>Website:</strong> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.mohiromoto.com">https://www.mohiromoto.com</a></li><li><strong>Bio site:</strong> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bio.site/mohiromoto">https://bio.site/mohiromoto</a></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>Connect with Mo:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: @mohiromoto</li><li>TikTok: @mohiromoto_</li><li>YouTube: @mohiromoto</li><li>Email: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>About the podcast</strong></p><p><em>12 Steps to Success</em> is a podcast about what happens when the path you were on stops making sense.</p><p>Hosted by Eric Mackay, the show centres on honest conversations with people navigating change, pressure, identity shifts, recovery, and redefinition. These are not success stories or instruction manuals, but real conversations about how people live inside uncertainty and keep moving without false certainty.</p><p></p><p><strong>Stay connected</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://twelvestepstosuccess.com">https://twelvestepstosuccess.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess">https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess</a></li></ul>
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53 MIN
When Burnout Arrives Quietly (ft. Marni Wandner)
JAN 13, 2026
When Burnout Arrives Quietly (ft. Marni Wandner)
<p>This conversation with <strong>Marni Wandner</strong> explores what happens when burnout does not arrive as a breaking point, but as a slow erosion.</p><p>We talk about creative ambition, responsibility, and the quiet ways people lose themselves while trying to be useful, capable, and reliable. Marni reflects on building a career in an industry that is supposed to generate joy, and the moment she realised that something essential was missing, even though everything looked fine on the surface.</p><p>There is a lot of honesty in this episode about resistance to change, the fear of not knowing what comes next, and the tendency to override internal signals in order to keep moving. Rather than framing burnout as failure, this conversation treats it as information, something asking to be listened to rather than pushed through.</p><p>It is a thoughtful discussion about agency, identity, and learning how to notice when the way you are working no longer matches the life you want to be living.</p><p></p><p><strong>What comes up in the conversation</strong></p><p>In this episode, we talk about:</p><ul><li>Burnout that develops gradually rather than dramatically</li><li>Resistance to change and uncertainty about direction</li><li>Creativity, pressure, and responsibility in the music industry</li><li>Learning to listen to internal signals rather than override them</li><li>Redefining usefulness and success on your own terms</li></ul><p></p><p><strong>About </strong><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Marni Wandner </strong></a></p><p>Marni Wandner works with individuals navigating stress, burnout, and career transitions, particularly in high pressure and creative environments. Her work focuses on helping people build sustainable ways of working without losing themselves in the process. </p><p></p><p><strong>Links &amp; resources: </strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://marniwandner.com">https://marniwandner.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/marniwandner">https://instagram.com/marniwandner</a></li><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/futurepresentco">https://instagram.com/futurepresentco</a></li></ul><p></p><p>If you are interested in speaking with Marni about stress management, burnout, career transitions, or thriving in high pressure environments, you can schedule a free call here: </p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://calendly.com/marniwandner/free-consult-call">https://calendly.com/marniwandner/free-consult-call</a></p><p></p><p><strong>About the podcast</strong></p><p><em>12 Steps to Success</em> is a podcast about what happens when the path you were on stops making sense.</p><p>Hosted by Eric Mackay, the show centres on honest conversations with people navigating change, pressure, identity shifts, recovery, and redefinition. These are not success stories or instruction manuals, but real conversations about how people live inside uncertainty and keep moving without false certainty.</p><p></p><p><strong>Stay connected</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://twelvestepstosuccess.com">https://twelvestepstosuccess.com</a></li><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess">https://instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess</a></li></ul>
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49 MIN
Trailer: The Messy Middle — Purpose, Identity & Redefining Success (with Eric Mackay)
JAN 6, 2026
Trailer: The Messy Middle — Purpose, Identity & Redefining Success (with Eric Mackay)
<p>What happens after the big win - or before anything makes sense?</p><p><em>12 Steps to Success</em> isn’t a podcast about polished success stories or highlight reels. It’s a series of honest conversations about the messy middle - the moments where identity shifts, certainty disappears, and you keep going anyway.</p><p>Hosted by <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Eric Mackay</strong></a>, this podcast explores purpose, pressure, identity, recovery, leadership, and change through real conversations with founders, creatives, executives, and builders who have had to redefine success more than once.</p><p>Across this season, you’ll hear from guests including <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Marni Wandner</strong></a>, <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Mo Hiromoto</strong></a>, and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Christopher Brereton</strong></a> (plus many more), reflecting on burnout, evolution, grief, faith, community, legacy, and what happens when the identities we build no longer fit.</p><p>This trailer offers a first look at the tone and intent of the season:</p><ul><li>Conversations that don’t rush clarity</li><li>Stories that include doubt, recalibration, and resilience</li><li>A refusal of performative success and empty optimisation</li><li>Space for humour, honesty, and being present rather than productive</li></ul><p>Each episode stands on its own, but together they form a bigger picture - not of what success is supposed to look like, but of how people actually live with it, question it, and sometimes walk away from it.</p><p>If you’re in a moment of transition, pressure, burnout, recovery, or quiet re-evaluation, you’re in the right place.</p><p></p><p><strong>Season 1 Launch Information</strong></p><p></p><p>🎧 <strong>Episode 1 of 12 Steps to Success drops on January 13th, 2026.</strong></p><p>New episodes will be released weekly.</p><p>Subscribe now so you don’t miss the start of the season.</p><p></p><p><strong>About the Podcast</strong></p><p><em>12 Steps to Success</em> is a long-form conversation podcast about navigating change, redefining success, and building a meaningful life - without shortcuts, hype, or neat answers.</p><p>Hosted by Eric Mackay.</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://twelvestepstosuccess.com">twelvestepstosuccess.com</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://Instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess">Instagram.com/twelvestepstosuccess</a></p>
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7 MIN