Larry McCall has been married to his high school sweetheart for more than 50 years and pastored the same church for over 40. He knows firsthand what it takes to enjoy a marriage that lasts. He's also seen the bad things that happen to marriages in the middle and later years. In his book A Seasoned Marriage, he walks couples through the seasons that can quietly undo a marriage: empty nests, adult kids moving back home, aging parents, and the slow drift from spouse to roommate. He and Arlene talk about why putting Christ at the center of marriage matters more than ever as the years go on, and how couples can become closer friends instead of growing apart. If your kids are young, this episode is still for you — what you build now is what you'll have later.  1:28 — Why the gospel has to be at the center of marriage, not just the beginning of it 3:28 — The "happiness trap" — what couples reveal when they pursue divorce 6:39 — When your spouse's faith is weak and you're carrying the marriage alone 8:25 — The story of a woman whose non-Christian husband came to faith after decades of prayer 10:31 — The low point in Larry and Gladine's marriage, and what turned it around 16:02 — Navigating adult kids moving back home without it wedging the marriage 23:38 — The difference between a Christian grandparent and an intentional Christian grandparent   Grab a copy of Larry McCall's book: A Seasoned Marriage Learn more about Walking with Jesus Ministries: https://www.walkingwithjesusministries.org/ More Resources from Arlene Pellicane: SUBSCRIBE to Arlene's newsletter "What I'm Learning This Week" and get the checklist, 7 Warning Signs of Screen Overuse. Check out Arlene's BOOKS including Parents Rising, Screen Kids, and Making Marriage Easier. Follow Arlene on Instagram and/or Facebook Go to Arlene's YouTube Channel How did Arlene's kids adapt to not having phones, video games or social media? Watch the free video, Screen Kids: In Their Own Words. Have a question for Arlene to address on the podcast? Want to invite Arlene to speak to your group? Email [email protected] Not sure about a smartphone for your child? Check out the Gabb Wireless phone for kids and teens (use the promo code ARLENE)   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.