<p>On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by Alex Kirshner, Slate contributing writer and host of <a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/hang-up-and-listen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Hang Up And Listen</em></a>. Back in September, Alex <a href="https://slate.com/technology/2025/09/brick-app-review-digital-detox-instagram-tiktok.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wrote about Brick</a>, the plastic gadget he says “broke his phone addiction.” It seems like now more than ever, people want off their phones, and are trying everything from Brick to dumb phones to make it happen. They’re also, ironically, posting all about it, which begs the question: Do we <em>really</em> want to get offline, or do we just want people to think we do?&nbsp;</p><br><p>This podcast is produced by Daisy Rosario, Vic Whitley-Berry, and Kate Lindsay.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>