The idea that animals have the potential to talk is an alluring one; from the mathematical stunts of , to research on parrots, dolphins and chimps - . It's interesting, exciting and even cute - but is it really true that animals have language? After the recent passing of , I spoke to about the hopes we have about being the next Dr Dolittle, and just how realistic those hopes are. Daniel is a lecturer in applied linguistics at Edith Cowan University, and at the University of Western Australia, as well as a presenter on the popular language podcast . ****************************** A quick note about supporting the podcasts! Check out  – and consider   Theme songs “Leap Second” by Milton Mermikides, of  Additional ambient music from Jukedeck – create your own at . Tremendous thanks to my Patreon supporters – they are: Stephen, Steven, Andrew, Troy, Jacqueline, Brooke, Gerry, Dr*T, Josh, Linley, Gold and Iggy. Make sure you check out the bonus content on Patreon and as always, you can join them by heading to  (and check out the  too!). Please leave positive comments and reviews on iTunes and consider supporting the show via visiting  – and I’d love to get your feedback via [email protected].