Chuck Marohn and Tony Dutzik unpack the messy history of the gas tax, cross‑subsidies between states, and the moral story drivers were told about “user fees.” They revisit highway revolts, the rise of federal transit funding, and the long slide into Highway Trust Fund bailouts. Their conversation lays out stark choices for the next chapter of national transportation policy. Additional Show Notes Tony Dutzik (LinkedIn) Call "Time Out" on Highway Boondoggles (Article) Frontier Group (Site) What Comes After the Interstate Era? | New Report  (Youtube) Read the Mission Accomplished White Paper. Chuck Marohn (Substack)   This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Thank you!