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New Media Show with Rob Greenlee formerly co-hosted by Todd Cochrane RIP discussing the new media and podcasting space with new weekly guest co-hosts.

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Libsyn’s Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660
APR 23, 2026
Libsyn’s Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660
<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2050" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/300x300-NMS-660-Episode-Art-Libsyn.png" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/300x300-NMS-660-Episode-Art-Libsyn.png 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/300x300-NMS-660-Episode-Art-Libsyn-150x150.png 150w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><strong><em>&#8220;Podcast episode hosting used to be simple. You uploaded an audio file, generated an RSS feed, and distributed your show everywhere. That model still matters, but it is no longer enough for the modern creator economy.&#8221;</em></strong></p> <p><strong>In this Episode 660 </strong>of The <strong>Live New Media Show, </strong>from<strong> April 22nd, 2026</strong>, <strong>Host</strong> <strong>Podcast Hall of Famer and Former Libsyn VP Rob Greenlee</strong> shares a screen and microphone with<strong> Brendan Monaghan, President and CEO of Libsyn, to explore how podcast hosting is changing and what creators should expect from platforms in 2026 and beyond.</strong></p> <p><strong>This</strong> <strong>conversation gets to the heart of a major shift happening across podcasting and new media.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><strong><em>Hosting companies are no longer judged only by whether they can deliver a clean RSS feed and reliable file storage. Creators now expect monetization, analytics, video support, workflow efficiency, AI-assisted publishing, broader distribution, and real help with audience growth. </em></strong></p></blockquote> <p><strong>That larger shift frames the entire discussion between Rob and Brendan.</strong></p> <p>Brendan explains that <strong>Libsyn still carries the legacy of being one of podcasting’s earliest and most important hosting platforms, but the company is now operating in a far more complex environment.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Brendan points to Libsyn’s evolution from a technology-led hosting company into a broader creator platform that includes advertising and monetization infrastructure, especially after the company acquired businesses such as AdvertiseCast and Pair Networks. He argues that the modern hosting business must combine publishing, monetization, measurement, and simplicity for creators at every stage of growth.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>Rob pushes the conversation further by asking the bigger industry question:</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>What should a podcast hosting company become now? That leads into a wide-ranging discussion about platform aggregation, creator workflows, newsletters, live events, merchandise, and the growing expectation that creators should be able to manage more of their media business from one place. Brendan makes the case that the future belongs to companies that can keep creators at the center while simplifying the growing complexity around distribution and monetization.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>A major part of the episode focuses on AI. </strong></p> <p><strong>Brendan breaks AI into three areas: how Libsyn uses it internally as a business, how AI can assist creators with production and publishing workflows, and how fully AI-generated content may affect the medium&#8217;s future. </strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Rob adds a deeper perspective by arguing that AI podcasting is already becoming more competitive than many in the industry want to admit. The two discuss whether the market will ultimately decide what AI content succeeds, why “AI slop” may be too broad a label, and why trust and disclosure may become much more important as synthetic media becomes harder to distinguish from human-created work.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>The episode also dives into one of the most important strategic tensions in podcasting right now: RSS versus API publishing</strong>.</p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Rob and Brendan both acknowledge that most creators care more about simple distribution than the underlying protocol, but they also recognize that this shift has major implications for openness, platform control, and long-term creator independence. </strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>Their exchange about Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and the shift toward more controlled video delivery models reflects a broader market reality:</strong> <strong>creators increasingly want to be everywhere</strong>, but the <strong>mechanics of getting there are becoming more fragmented and platform-specific.</strong></p> <p><strong>Another strong section of the conversation centers on video.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Brendan says Libsyn intends to be a leader in video, while Rob raises a practical concern many creators are just beginning to feel: a show that works well on YouTube may not automatically translate well to an audio-first experience, and a show built for traditional audio may not fully satisfy video-driven discovery environments. That raises the possibility that creators will need to think more deliberately about format, audience expectations, and whether a single production workflow can truly serve all platforms equally well.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>The conversation becomes especially valuable when the two discuss metrics:</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Apple’s HLS direction, and what streaming-style delivery might mean for podcast measurement and advertising. They point to a future in which the industry may move closer to actual listening signals rather than relying so heavily on download-based assumptions. If that happens, it could affect CPMs, ad sales, programmatic video advertising, and the broader economics of the medium.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>Rob also frames one of the biggest unresolved questions in new media today:</strong></p> <p><strong>If AI-generated shows become easier, faster, and more polished, what will human creators need to do to remain distinct and trusted? </strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>The answer that emerges from this episode is not panic. It is focus, transparency, stronger format thinking, and a deeper commitment to serving audiences with clarity and value. That makes this episode less about Libsyn alone and more about the future structure of podcasting itself.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>Topic Chapters and Timestamps</strong><br /> 00:00 Podcast hosting is no longer simple<br /> 01:00 What creators now expect from hosting platforms<br /> 02:00 Brendan Monaghan introduction and background<br /> 03:00 Why Libsyn’s legacy still matters<br /> 05:00 Hosting, publishing, monetization, and measurement<br /> 07:00 How Libsyn expanded its monetization business<br /> 08:00 Why creators should not need to leave Libsyn to scale<br /> 09:00 How monetization changed podcasting<br /> 10:00 Lowering barriers for creators to earn revenue<br /> 12:00 What the future hosting platform should become<br /> 13:00 Newsletters, live events, merchandise, and creator tools<br /> 15:00 AI and creator workflows<br /> 16:00 Brendan’s three-bucket view of AI<br /> 18:00 AI-generated content and the “AI slop” debate<br /> 20:00 Why the market may decide what AI content wins<br /> 23:00 RSS versus API publishing<br /> 25:00 Simplicity and multi-platform distribution<br /> 26:00 Why RSS matters less to end users now<br /> 28:00 Open versus closed ecosystems<br /> 29:00 RSS innovation and slow adoption<br /> 31:00 Apple HLS and changing audio-video delivery<br /> 32:00 Platform control and the walled garden debate<br /> 41:00 Measurement, streaming, and actual listening data<br /> 43:00 Programmatic video ads and creative formats<br /> 45:00 Why video creators may need to think more like audio creators<br /> 47:00 Can AI help bridge the gap between formats?<br /> 49:00 Audio loyalty versus video momentum<br /> 50:00 The growing pressure on creators to win everywhere<br /> 51:00 AI Algorithms, the first audience for human content<br /> 53:00 Are AI-generated shows driving growth?<br /> 55:00 AI clone content and rising competition for humans<br /> 56:00 Why AI labeling may become essential<br /> 59:00 What Libsyn will focus on over the next 24 months<br /> 01:01:00 Audio, video, audience growth, and execution<br /> 01:03:00 Staying focused on core creator needs<br /> 01:05:00 Closing thoughts</p> <p><strong>This episode answers key industry questions that creators, executives, and media strategists are increasingly asking:</strong><br /> -What is Libsyn doing next under Brendan Monaghan?<br /> -How is podcast hosting changing in 2026?<br /> -Will video become a required part of podcast distribution?<br /> -What does Apple’s HLS move mean for audio and video podcasting?<br /> -Is RSS still the future, or are APIs taking over?<br /> -How will AI-generated content affect podcasting, trust, and monetization?<br /> -What should creators expect from modern hosting platforms now?<br /> -Those questions are directly addressed in this discussion, making this episode highly relevant to search, social discovery, AI answer engines, and recommendation surfaces.</p> <p><strong>Guest and Show Links</strong><br /> <strong>Brendan Monaghan, CEO of Libsyn</strong><br /> <a href="https://libsyn.com">https://Libsyn.com</a></p> <p><strong>Host Rob Greenlee and Show Links</strong><br data-start="2697" data-end="2700" />New Media Show: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://newmediashow.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2716" data-end="2741">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br data-start="2741" data-end="2744" />Rob Greenlee: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://robgreenlee.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2758" data-end="2782">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br data-start="2782" data-end="2785" />Trust Factor Lab: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2803" data-end="2830">https://trustfactorlab.com/</a><br data-start="2830" data-end="2833" />Adore Creator Network: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2856" data-end="2881">https://adorenetwork.com/</a><br data-start="2881" data-end="2884" />Podcast Hall of Fame: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://podcasthall.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2906" data-end="2930" data-is-only-node="">https://podcasthall.com/</a><br data-start="2930" data-end="2933" />Rob Greenlee YouTube: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2955" data-end="2987">https://youtube.com/@robgreenlee</a><br data-start="2987" data-end="2990" />Rob Greenlee LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3013" data-end="3048">https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</a><br data-start="3048" data-end="3051" />Rob Greenlee Instagram: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3075" data-end="3109">https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee</a></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/libsyns-next-chapter-podcast-hosting-video-monetization-rss-and-api-brendan-monaghan-660/">Libsyn’s Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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60 MIN
Podcasting’s Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659
APR 16, 2026
Podcasting’s Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2036" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/659-New-Media-Show-Episode-Sharon-Taylor.jpg 1400w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><em><strong>Podcasting is entering a new phase, and this episode goes straight into the infrastructure, business models, and platform shifts shaping what comes next.</strong></em></p> <p><strong>On episode 659 of The New Media Show</strong>, Host and <em><strong>Podcast Hall of Famer <a href="https://robgreenlee.com">Rob Greenlee </a></strong>shares the microphone with<strong> Sharon Taylor, Chief Revenue Officer at <a href="https://tritondigital.com">Triton Digital</a> (<a href="https://spreaker.com">Spreaker</a> &amp; <a href="https://omnystudio.com">Omny Studio</a>)</strong></em>, for a deep conversation about where the podcasting market is heading right now.</p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Sharon brings years of experience from Omny Studio, Triton Digital, and Spreaker, making her one of the best people to help unpack what is changing across hosting, monetization, video, AI, advertiser demand, and measurement.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>We talk through why podcasting is not simply becoming video-first, even as video becomes a bigger part of how shows are discovered and monetized.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Sharon makes a strong case that audio remains at the center of the medium, but the future is clearly becoming more multi-format. That means creators, publishers, and platforms need to think differently about how they distribute content, measure audience behavior, and build sustainable business models for both audio and video.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>A big part of this conversation focuses on Triton Digital’s role in the market today and why its combination of Omny Studio, Spreaker, and broader ad tech infrastructure makes it an important player in podcasting’s next chapter.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>Sharon explains the unique roots of Omny Studio as a platform built for large-scale broadcast and enterprise publishing needs, while Spreaker helped pioneer early podcast programmatic monetization for creators. That combination gives Triton a unique perspective on both professional publishing and creator-driven growth.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>We also spend time on Apple’s HLS video move and what it may mean for podcasting’s future. Sharon shares how Triton had already been preparing for a broader video environment and why Apple’s support for HLS is such a meaningful shift.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>We discuss how HLS could improve flexibility around delivery, ad insertion, and measurement, while still raising important questions about RSS, open distribution, and whether major platforms may slowly pull podcasting into more platform-specific publishing models over time.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>Another major topic in this episode is trust.</strong></p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>From programmatic advertising to AI-generated content to labeling and transparency, Sharon and I explore how podcasting can continue to grow without losing the authentic connection that made the medium valuable in the first place. </strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>We both agree that podcasting still has enormous strength as an audio-led medium, but the industry is now balancing openness, innovation, and monetization in ways that will define the next few years.</strong></p> <p>This is a wide-ranging and important discussion for anyone watching the evolution of podcasting, video, ad tech, platform power, and the future of open media.</p> <h3>Topics covered</h3> <p>&#8211; Why Triton Digital matters in podcasting right now<br /> &#8211; Sharon Taylor’s path from Omny Studio to Triton CRO<br /> &#8211; What Triton is seeing in audio versus video audience behavior<br /> &#8211; Why podcasting is becoming multi-format, not simply video-first<br /> &#8211; How Omny Studio and Spreaker fit different parts of the publishing market<br /> &#8211; What Apple’s HLS video move changes for publishers and hosting platforms<br /> &#8211; Why advertiser confidence and better measurement matter more than ever<br /> &#8211; The future of RSS, open podcasting, and platform fragmentation<br /> &#8211; How AI-generated content is affecting publishing growth and industry trust<br /> &#8211; Where Sharon sees the next big opportunities for podcast growth</p> <h3>Guest</h3> <p><strong>Sharon Taylor</strong> is the <strong>Chief Revenue Officer at Triton Digital</strong>. She was appointed to the CRO role in August 2025 after helping lead Triton’s podcast and content delivery efforts. Before joining Triton, Sharon was CEO of Omny Studio and played a key role in building it into one of the leading enterprise podcast platforms before its acquisition by Triton Digital.</p> <p>Triton Digital: <a href="https://www.tritondigital.com/">https://www.tritondigital.com/</a><br /> Spreaker: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/">https://www.spreaker.com/</a><br /> Omny Studio: <a href="https://omnystudio.com/">https://omnystudio.com/</a></p> <h3>Host</h3> <p><strong>Rob Greenlee</strong> is a <strong>2017 Podcast Hall of Famer</strong>, <strong>Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame</strong>, and leader behind Trust Factor Lab and Trust Creators Community at M3Linked.</p> <p>New Media Show: <a href="https://newmediashow.com/">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br /> Rob Greenlee: <a href="https://robgreenlee.com/">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br /> Podcast Hall of Fame: <a href="https://podcasthall.com/">https://podcasthall.com/</a><br /> Trust Creators Community: <a href="https://m3linked.com/">https://m3linked.com/</a></p> <p><strong>Supporters:</strong></p> <p><strong>Get a $10 StreamYard Video Recording and Live Streaming tool Discount</strong> using this <strong>LINK &#8211; <a href="https://streamyard.com/pal/c/5606177711325184">https://streamyard.com/pal/c/5606177711325184</a></strong></p> <p><strong>Podcasting pros use Podpage</strong> – Build a podcast or video show website that updates itself and showcases your show beautifully. <strong>Start for just $12/month! &#8211;&gt;<a href="https://podpage.com?via=adore">podpage.com?via=adore</a></strong></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/podcastings-multi-format-future-sharon-taylor-659/">Podcasting’s Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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63 MIN
Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658
APR 11, 2026
Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658
<p data-start="64" data-end="251"><img decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2028" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-300x300.jpg" alt="New Media Show #658 with David Plotz" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/658-New-Media-Show-Episode-David-Plotz.jpg 1400w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><em><strong>If you are trying to understand where podcasting may still have real, untapped opportunities in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that point to an important answer: Local.</strong></em></p> <p data-start="253" data-end="1003"><strong>On Episode 658 of The New Media Show, Host Podcast Hall of Famer <a href="https://robgreenlee.com">Rob Greenlee</a></strong> shares a microphone and a video camera with <strong>guest <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Plotz">David Plotz</a>, founder and CEO of <a href="https://CityCast.fm">CityCast.fm</a> and co-host of the Political Gabfest podcast from Slate</strong>,<strong> to:</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="253" data-end="1003"><em><strong>Explore what local podcasts can become in a media environment increasingly shaped by video, platforms, social discovery, and changing audience habits. The conversation starts with local audio, but it quickly opens into something bigger: trust, emotional connection, local relevance, and the question of whether city-based media may be one of the strongest growth areas left in podcasting. </strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="253" data-end="1003">David frames <strong>City Cast as a network of daily local podcasts, newsletters, social content, and events, built around helping people feel more connected to the cities they live in.</strong></p> <p data-start="1005" data-end="1477"><strong>The real takeaway in this episode is that local podcasting is not simply a smaller version of national podcasting. It operates under a different set of strengths and constraints.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="1005" data-end="1477"><em><strong>Local Podcasting may never offer the same scale as national audio, but it can offer something more personal and durable: a trusted daily relationship grounded in place. That becomes a powerful differentiator at a time when many creators and media companies are chasing reach but struggling to build loyalty.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="1479" data-end="2187"><strong>David brings a rare combination to this topic because he is not just theorizing about local media from the outside.</strong> He has built and led major editorial organizations, <strong>co-hosted one of podcasting’s longest-running political shows, and is now running one of the clearest experiments in local podcast-first media. </strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="1479" data-end="2187"><em><strong>In the episode, he explains that podcasting’s deepest strength is not raw information delivery but feeling, intimacy, and connection. He argues that podcasting works when people are not just informed but emotionally connected to the speakers and the place being discussed. That idea becomes the foundation for how City Cast approaches local media.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="2189" data-end="2872"><strong>One of the most useful parts of this episode is hearing David describe what City Cast is actually trying to replace and what it is not.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="2189" data-end="2872"><em><strong>He makes clear that City Cast is not primarily a breaking-news operation. Instead, it builds on an existing local news ecosystem and tries to become the smartest, most interesting, and most delightful daily conversation about what matters in a city. That distinction matters. It means City Cast is not trying to be a direct substitute for newspapers or broadcast radio in every function. It is trying to become additive, conversational, and habit-forming in ways that better fit the strengths of podcasting.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="2874" data-end="3538">From there, the <strong>conversation moves into the central tension of the episode: if podcasting is so strong at local trust and emotional connection, why is local podcasting still so hard to scale?</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="2874" data-end="3538"><em><strong>David is candid about the addressable audience being smaller, discovery being difficult, and the economics still being figured out. Those are not minor obstacles. They are the core business problem. City Cast’s challenge is not simply editorial quality. It is proving that local podcast audiences are valuable, engaged, and commercially meaningful enough to support a durable business.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="3540" data-end="4205"><strong>That leads directly into the video.</strong> One of the strongest strategic insights in the episode is <strong>David’s acknowledgment that City Cast did not lean into social and video early enough</strong>. <strong>He says plainly that the company is now correcting that. The reason is not that audio has failed. The reason is that discovery increasingly happens elsewhere.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="3540" data-end="4205"><em><strong>Younger audiences find local information through social media, YouTube, and short-form feeds. Audio may still be the best format for relationships and routines, but video and social are becoming essential for visibility, especially among younger audiences.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="4207" data-end="4876"><strong>A core theme in this episode is that the real opportunity may not be “local podcasts” as a narrow category, but local media brands built around podcasts.</strong> City Cast is already moving in that direction through newsletters, events, social distribution, and membership. <strong>David’s description of the “Neighbors” membership concept is especially revealing.</strong> It shows that the City Cast brand is not just about delivering content. <strong>It is about building a sense of mutuality, place, and civic belonging.</strong> That is a different ambition than simply growing downloads. It is also where local podcasting may have an edge over broader media.</p> <p data-start="4878" data-end="5412"><strong>This episode ultimately lands on a simple reality: local podcasting is real, but it is not easy. Audio still has a unique role to play in building trust and connection, but it is no longer enough to rely on audio alone for growth and discovery.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p data-start="4878" data-end="5412"><em><strong>The winning local media brands may be the ones that understand how to keep audio at the center while surrounding it with the right mix of video, social, newsletters, and community. In that sense, this conversation is not just about local podcasts. It is about where the media gets human again.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="5414" data-end="5431"><strong data-start="5414" data-end="5431">Quick Q &amp; A Answers</strong></p> <p data-start="5433" data-end="5664"><strong data-start="5433" data-end="5471">What is City Cast trying to build?</strong><br data-start="5471" data-end="5474" />A local media network built around daily city podcasts, newsletters, social content, and events that help people feel more connected to where they live.</p> <p data-start="5666" data-end="5938"><strong data-start="5666" data-end="5734">Is local podcasting a replacement for local newspapers or radio?</strong><br data-start="5734" data-end="5737" />Not exactly. David describes it more as additive than as a replacement, with podcasting playing to conversation, feeling, and connection rather than to pure breaking news.</p> <p data-start="5940" data-end="6282"><strong data-start="5940" data-end="5996">Why is local podcasting hard to build as a business?</strong><br data-start="5996" data-end="5999" />The audience is geographically limited, discovery is difficult, and the economics are still being worked out. City Cast is trying to prove that highly engaged local audiences can support a durable model.</p> <p data-start="6284" data-end="6518"><strong data-start="6284" data-end="6325">Does video matter for local podcasts?</strong><br data-start="6325" data-end="6328" />Yes, increasingly as a discovery-and-growth layer. David says City Cast came to social and video later than it should have and is now correcting that.</p> <p data-start="6520" data-end="6760"><strong data-start="6520" data-end="6568">What is the deeper advantage of local audio?</strong><br data-start="6568" data-end="6571" />Its strength is emotional connection, intimacy, daily relevance, and trust. That may matter more as audiences seek media that feels useful and human.</p> <p data-start="6762" data-end="6775"><strong data-start="6762" data-end="6775">Video Chapters:</strong></p> <p data-start="6777" data-end="7849">00:00 Welcome and local media framing<br data-start="6814" data-end="6817" />02:26 David Plotz joins the show<br data-start="6849" data-end="6852" />03:00 Slate Political Gabfest history<br data-start="6889" data-end="6892" />07:39 Live events and audience connection<br data-start="6933" data-end="6936" />11:47 Podcasting as emotion and intimacy<br data-start="6976" data-end="6979" />16:27 Why City Cast exists<br data-start="7005" data-end="7008" />18:07 How City Cast serves cities<br data-start="7041" data-end="7044" />20:12 Why City Cast is additive, not a replacement<br data-start="7092" data-end="7095" />25:00 The economics of local podcasting<br data-start="7134" data-end="7137" />26:22 Washington DC and local news opportunity<br data-start="7183" data-end="7186" />29:12 Local versus diaspora audiences<br data-start="7223" data-end="7226" />32:02 Your City Could Be Better<br data-start="7257" data-end="7260" />33:14 Local advertising and audience value<br data-start="7302" data-end="7305" />35:12 Why local podcasting is harder than it looks<br data-start="7355" data-end="7358" />37:02 Social discovery and local media habits<br data-start="7403" data-end="7406" />38:07 Video and Apple Podcasts<br data-start="7436" data-end="7439" data-is-only-node="" />44:40 City Cast video workflow challenge<br data-start="7479" data-end="7482" />47:28 Graham Holdings and Megaphone context<br data-start="7525" data-end="7528" />51:12 Which cities work best for City Cast<br data-start="7570" data-end="7573" />53:12 Public radio overlap and younger audiences<br data-start="7621" data-end="7624" />54:40 Why City Cast missed the video early<br data-start="7662" data-end="7665" />57:27 Audio, video, and multimedia future<br data-start="7706" data-end="7709" />01:00:11 Neighbors and local trust<br data-start="7743" data-end="7746" />01:01:53 Politics, balance, and civic voice<br data-start="7789" data-end="7792" />01:05:18 Events and community building<br data-start="7830" data-end="7833" />01:06:36 Wrap up</p> <p data-start="7851" data-end="7860"><strong data-start="7851" data-end="7860">Links</strong></p> <p data-start="7862" data-end="7889"><strong data-start="7862" data-end="7889">Guest David Plotz Links</strong></p> <p data-start="7891" data-end="8118">City Cast: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://citycast.fm/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="7902" data-end="7922">https://citycast.fm/</a><br data-start="7922" data-end="7925" />City Cast Mission: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://citycast.fm/our-mission?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="7944" data-end="7975">https://citycast.fm/our-mission</a><br data-start="7975" data-end="7978" />City Cast Membership / Neighbors: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://membership.citycast.fm/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8012" data-end="8043">https://membership.citycast.fm/</a><br data-start="8043" data-end="8046" />David Plotz LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-plotz-ab02164a?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8068" data-end="8116">https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-plotz-ab02164a</a></p> <p data-start="8120" data-end="8156"><strong data-start="8120" data-end="8156">Host Rob Greenlee and Show Links</strong></p> <p data-start="8158" data-end="8567">New Media Show: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://newmediashow.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8174" data-end="8199">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br data-start="8199" data-end="8202" />Rob Greenlee: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://robgreenlee.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8216" data-end="8240">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br data-start="8240" data-end="8243" />Trust Factor Lab: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://trustfactorlab.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8261" data-end="8288">https://trustfactorlab.com/</a><br data-start="8288" data-end="8291" />Adore Creator Network: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://adorenetwork.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8314" data-end="8339">https://adorenetwork.com/</a><br data-start="8339" data-end="8342" />Podcast Hall of Fame: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://podcasthall.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8364" data-end="8388">https://podcasthall.com/</a><br data-start="8388" data-end="8391" />Rob Greenlee YouTube: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://youtube.com/@robgreenlee" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8413" data-end="8445">https://youtube.com/@robgreenlee</a><br data-start="8445" data-end="8448" />Rob Greenlee LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8471" data-end="8506">https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</a><br data-start="8506" data-end="8509" />Rob Greenlee Instagram: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="8533" data-end="8567">https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee</a></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/local-podcasts-in-a-growing-video-world-david-plotz-658/">Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657
APR 7, 2026
Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657
<div class="relative basis-auto flex-col -mb-(--composer-overlap-px) pb-(--composer-overlap-px) [--composer-overlap-px:28px] grow flex"> <div class="flex flex-col text-sm pb-25"> <section class="text-token-text-primary w-full focus:outline-none [--shadow-height:45px] has-data-writing-block:pointer-events-none has-data-writing-block:-mt-(--shadow-height) has-data-writing-block:pt-(--shadow-height) [&amp;:has([data-writing-block])&gt;*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id="request-69a93a59-814c-8329-8fec-4205819ec434-0" data-testid="conversation-turn-16" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn="assistant"> <div class="text-base my-auto mx-auto pb-10 [--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-xs,calc(var(--spacing)*4))] @w-sm/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-sm,calc(var(--spacing)*6))] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-lg,calc(var(--spacing)*16))] px-(--thread-content-margin)"> <div class="[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn"> <div class="flex max-w-full flex-col gap-4 grow"> <div class="min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal outline-none keyboard-focused:focus-ring [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1" dir="auto" tabindex="0" data-message-author-role="assistant" data-message-id="81615b59-15eb-42ba-9fd3-3f1bb116d80f" data-turn-start-message="true" data-message-model-slug="gpt-5-2-thinking"> <div class="flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden"> <div class="markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full wrap-break-word dark markdown-new-styling"> <p data-start="121" data-end="774"><a href="https://newmediashow.com"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2013" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/657-New-Media-Show-Episode-Justin-Jackson.jpg 1400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><strong>If you are trying to understand where podcasting is going in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that clarifies the whole board.</strong></p> <p data-start="121" data-end="774"><strong>On Episode 657 of The New Media Show</strong>, Host <strong><a href="https://robgreenlee.com">Rob Greenlee</a> shares a microphone </strong>and a<strong> video camera with Justin Jackson, CEO and Co-Founder of <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a>, </strong>to unpack two forces reshaping the medium at the same time: Apple’s push back into video podcasts using HLS streaming, and the accelerating rise of synthetic creators and human clones powered by AI.</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="121" data-end="774"><strong><em>The real takeaway in this episode is that this is no longer just a podcasting story. It’s a media transformation story, and creators who treat it that way will have the advantage.</em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="776" data-end="1565"><strong>Justin brings a rare combination to this topic because he is not just watching the ecosystem from the outside.</strong> He is building one of the most respected independent podcast hosting platforms and is deeply involved in coordinating the industry&#8217;s progress through the <a href="https://podcaststandards.org">Podcast Standards Project</a>.</p> <p data-start="776" data-end="1565"><strong>One of the most useful parts of this episode is hearing how standards actually get adopted.</strong> Podcasting has a coordination problem, and the only way the open ecosystem keeps evolving is when hosting providers, apps, and major platforms agree on what becomes “standard.” Justin explains why this work is slower than people want and why it matters, using real examples such as transcript support and creator-recommendation tooling via Podroll.</p> <p data-start="1567" data-end="2297"><strong>From there, we go straight into the big shift: Apple leaning harder into video again, this time through HLS.</strong> The practical impact for creators is obvious. Video becomes easier to distribute, monetize, and measure across platforms.</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="1567" data-end="2297"><strong><em>The strategic impact is bigger. Apple’s move creates a cascade effect. As more hosts build HLS workflows, those streams can increasingly appear not only within Apple’s experience but also through open standards like alternate enclosures, especially if apps continue to adopt them. Justin is bullish on RSS-based open podcasting surviving, not because it is nostalgic, but because consumer demand and creator distribution needs keep pulling it forward.</em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="2299" data-end="3093"><strong>A core theme in this episode is that creators and consumers decide what “a podcast” is, not the industry.</strong> Justin puts it plainly: if everyday listeners think podcasts are something they watch on YouTube, that belief drives behavior, and behavior drives platforms. This is why the <strong>listen-and-watch switching paradigm matters</strong>. Consumers want to start in audio and seamlessly jump into video. That pressure changes production habits over time, because the “audio from the video” becomes the default in many workflows. For some audio-first producers, that feels like a loss. <strong>For video-first creators</strong>, it is an opportunity to build a more fluid media experience that meets people where they are, whether they are watching closely or listening in the background.</p> <p data-start="3095" data-end="3767"><strong>Rob and Justin also dig into a topic most platforms are not talking about enough: demographics and attention.</strong> Apple Podcasts remains a valuable audience, often older, higher-income, harder-to-reach, and premium-friendly. But YouTube and short-form feeds have already shaped younger consumer habits.</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="3095" data-end="3767"><em><strong>Justin raises an interesting possibility that a backlash is forming among Gen Z against addictive, brain-rotting feeds. If that continues, there is a real opening for more mindful media experiences, which could benefit audio- and podcast-style consumption and even give Apple an unexpected positioning angle if they choose to lean into it.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="3769" data-end="4636"><strong>Then move into the other major shift: synthetic creators, AI cloning, and AI-generated media at scale.</strong> We talk about what is real, what is hype, and what’s already happening in the market. Justin’s perspective is grounded: audiences still choose what they care about, and a lot of AI-generated “slop” is being produced with no real demand. At the same time, I warn that this is the worst the tech will ever be, and that quality is moving fast.</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="3769" data-end="4636"><em><strong>The deeper layer is that AI is already part of the content distribution pipeline, because algorithms decide what gets surfaced and recommended.</strong> </em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="3769" data-end="4636"><strong>As cloning and synthetic production improve, trust and identification become the bigger story.</strong> If people cannot tell what is real, standards for disclosure, verification, and labeling become essential to preserve credibility.</p> <p data-start="4638" data-end="5146"><strong>This episode ultimately lands on a simple reality: creators do not need to panic, but they do need to adapt.</strong> <strong>Video is becoming a default entry point.</strong> RSS is still resilient, but platform native APIs are expanding. AI will increase volume, forcing platforms to filter more aggressively. The winning creators will be the ones who build trust, produce content people actually want, and package it so it travels across environments without losing the core promise that made the audience show up in the first place.</p> <h3 data-section-id="vtw9gs" data-start="5148" data-end="5190">Quick answers</h3> <p data-start="5192" data-end="5508"><strong data-start="5192" data-end="5256">What does Apple HLS video mean for podcast creators in 2026?</strong><br data-start="5256" data-end="5259" />It signals a stronger platform push toward seamless listen-and-watch experiences, better measurement, and future monetization opportunities, and it pressures hosts and apps to support HLS workflows more broadly.</p> <p data-start="5510" data-end="5834"><strong data-start="5510" data-end="5574">Is RSS dying because platforms want APIs and direct uploads?</strong><br data-start="5574" data-end="5577" />RSS remains highly resilient because creators want distribution portability and consumers want access to the shows they already follow. Platforms may add more native workflows, but RSS continues to power the open layer.</p> <p data-start="5836" data-end="6157"><strong data-start="5836" data-end="5882">Will AI-generated creators replace humans?</strong><br data-start="5882" data-end="5885" />AI will dramatically increase content volume, but audience trust and relevance will still determine what survives. The big shift is that trust, verification, and disclosure become more important as synthetic media becomes harder to detect.</p> <p data-start="5836" data-end="6157"><strong>Chapters:</strong></p> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">00:00 Welcome and big shifts</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:13 Meet Justin Jackson</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">02:50 Why podcast standards matter</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">06:23 Apple HLS video ripple</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">10:34 Transistor distribution view</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">13:24 Video podcasting history</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">17:09 Why the video faded to audio</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">22:30 YouTube wins attention</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">29:33 Apple subscriptions and TV</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">35:57 Demographics and Gen Z</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">39:03 Mindful media backlash</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">43:32 Apple culture and video</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">45:44 Retro tech resistance</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">46:50 Apple Ads And Privacy</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">47:40 HLS Rollout And Ad Load</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">49:25 Will RSS Survive Platforms</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">50:25 Why RSS Keeps Winning</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">54:17 Open Standards Like Email</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">59:16 Gen Z Video Threat</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:01:01 HLS Video Via RSS</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:04:40 Audio Video Switching Pain</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:07:53 Creators Adapt To Fluid Media</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:19:09 Consumers Define Podcasts</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:24:10 AI Voices Enter Podcasting</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:25:16 Reid Hoffman Digital Twin</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:28:17 AI Video Not Live</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:28:46 Latency And Real Time Avatars</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:29:08 Julia McCoy Avatar Demo</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:32:31 Do Audiences Care</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:33:28 AI Lowers Creation Bar</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:35:41 Real Humans Still Win</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:38:20 Noise Raises The Bar</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:40:53 AI For AI Audiences</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:47:39 Deepfake Hype Check</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:50:32 Trust And Disclosure Standards</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">01:52:19 Platform Overload From Slop</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">02:00:00 Pulia Spam Example</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">02:02:57 Throttling And Verification</h5> <h5 data-start="5836" data-end="6157">02:08:27 Wrap Up And HLS Updates</h5> <h3 data-section-id="73xms5" data-start="6159" data-end="6168">Links</h3> <p data-start="6169" data-end="6339"><strong>Guest Justin Jackson Links</strong></p> <p data-start="6169" data-end="6339">Transistor.fm: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://transistor.fm/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="6273" data-end="6295">https://transistor.fm/</a><br data-start="6295" data-end="6298" />Justin Jackson: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://justinjackson.ca/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="6314" data-end="6339">https://justinjackson.ca/</a></p> <p data-start="6169" data-end="6339"><strong>Host Rob Greenlee and Show Links</strong><br data-start="2697" data-end="2700" />New Media Show: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://newmediashow.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2716" data-end="2741">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br data-start="2741" data-end="2744" />Rob Greenlee: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://robgreenlee.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2758" data-end="2782">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br data-start="2782" data-end="2785" />Trust Factor Lab: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2803" data-end="2830">https://trustfactorlab.com/</a><br data-start="2830" data-end="2833" />Adore Creator Network: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2856" data-end="2881">https://adorenetwork.com/</a><br data-start="2881" data-end="2884" />Podcast Hall of Fame: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://podcasthall.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2906" data-end="2930" data-is-only-node="">https://podcasthall.com/</a><br data-start="2930" data-end="2933" />Rob Greenlee YouTube: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2955" data-end="2987">https://youtube.com/@robgreenlee</a><br data-start="2987" data-end="2990" />Rob Greenlee LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3013" data-end="3048">https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</a><br data-start="3048" data-end="3051" />Rob Greenlee Instagram: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3075" data-end="3109">https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee</a></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </section> </div> </div><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/apple-video-podcasts-rss-vs-api-rise-of-synthetic-creators-justin-jackson-657/">Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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131 MIN
Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? | Jay Nachlis #656
MAR 25, 2026
Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? | Jay Nachlis #656
<div class="relative basis-auto flex-col -mb-(--composer-overlap-px) pb-(--composer-overlap-px) [--composer-overlap-px:28px] grow flex"> <div class="flex flex-col text-sm pb-25"> <section class="text-token-text-primary w-full focus:outline-none [--shadow-height:45px] has-data-writing-block:pointer-events-none has-data-writing-block:-mt-(--shadow-height) has-data-writing-block:pt-(--shadow-height) [&amp;:has([data-writing-block])&gt;*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id="request-WEB:68779b9e-8da1-4c18-869a-20e418aa5a78-2" data-testid="conversation-turn-6" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn="assistant"> <div class="text-base my-auto mx-auto pb-10 [--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-xs,calc(var(--spacing)*4))] @w-sm/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-sm,calc(var(--spacing)*6))] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-lg,calc(var(--spacing)*16))] px-(--thread-content-margin)"> <div class="[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn"> <div class="flex max-w-full flex-col gap-4 grow"> <div class="min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal outline-none keyboard-focused:focus-ring [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1" dir="auto" tabindex="0" data-message-author-role="assistant" data-message-id="50713da8-663f-4e2a-b0a0-b31db987df53" data-message-model-slug="gpt-5-4-thinking" data-turn-start-message="true"> <div class="flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden"> <div class="markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full wrap-break-word dark markdown-new-styling"> <p data-start="89" data-end="396"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1995 size-medium" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/656-New-Media-Show-Episode-Jay-Nachlis.jpg 1400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />In <strong>episode 656</strong> of the <strong><em data-start="107" data-end="127">New Media Show</em>, Podcast Hall of Famer <a href="https://robgreenlee.com">Rob Greenlee </a></strong>is joined by<strong> Jay Nachlis,  Media Research VP at <a href="https://colemaninsights.com/">Coleman Insights</a>. </strong></p> <p data-start="89" data-end="396"><strong><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s a timely and deeper conversation about Apple Podcasts moving more aggressively into HLS video streaming and what that really means for the future of podcasting, audience behavior, platform competition, and creator strategy in 2026.&#8221;</em></strong></p> <p data-start="398" data-end="801"><strong>This episode goes far beyond the Apple announcement itself.</strong> Jay brings a strong audience research and brand strategy perspective to the conversation, and together we dig into the real question behind all of this: will Apple’s push into video actually change listener and viewer behavior, or is this simply Apple trying to catch up to audience habits that are already being shaped by YouTube and Spotify?</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="803" data-end="1335"><strong><em>&#8220;Apple Podcasts still has major brand recognition in podcasting, but may face an uphill battle in the current environment where YouTube has become the default platform for video-based podcast discovery, and Spotify continues to build a more native monetization and creator ecosystem.&#8221;</em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="803" data-end="1335"><strong>We talk about how audience habits often outweigh platform features</strong>, why consumer perception matters as much as technical innovation, and whether Apple can reclaim any meaningful momentum in a category it helped establish years ago.</p> <p data-start="1337" data-end="1875"><strong>We also discuss how this shift is creating a more fragmented publishing environment for creators.</strong> Audio and video are no longer just different formats. They increasingly represent different user expectations, different discovery paths, and different monetization opportunities.</p> <blockquote> <p data-start="1337" data-end="1875"><em><strong>&#8220;We discuss the growing need for creators to think strategically about separate audio and video feeds, platform-native publishing, HLS streaming delivery, audience experience, and the long-term risks of overreliance on closed ecosystems.&#8221;</strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p data-start="1877" data-end="2271"><strong>Jay and I also explore the broader competitive chessboard.</strong> That includes YouTube’s dominance in video &amp; video podcast consumption, Spotify’s continued attempts to define its role in both audio and video, and even whether players like Netflix could successfully move into podcast-adjacent content formats. <strong>This episode is really about where podcasting is headed as a medium, not just one Apple feature update.</strong></p> <p data-start="2273" data-end="2491">If you are a podcaster, creator, media strategist, advertiser, or platform watcher trying to understand where podcasting, video, discovery, and monetization are all heading next, this is an episode you should not miss.</p> <p data-start="2273" data-end="2491"><strong>Chapters:</strong></p> <p data-start="2273" data-end="2491">00:00 Apple Video Podcast Push<br /> 00:47 Meet the Hosts<br /> 01:56 Apple Streaming Update<br /> 03:14 Early Podcasting Era<br /> 05:19 YouTube Spotify Takeover<br /> 07:05 Can Apple Compete<br /> 08:25 Research YouTube Wins UX<br /> 10:30 Awareness Drives Usage<br /> 12:07 Netflix Podcasting Fit<br /> 15:58 Discovery Algorithms Habits<br /> 18:10 Apple Video Hidden Toggle<br /> 19:26 Audio Quality vs Video<br /> 22:22 Brand Content Trust Matrix<br /> 24:05 Apple Podcasts Brand Gap<br /> 24:51 Differentiation Over Video<br /> 25:41 RSS and HLS Debate<br /> 27:09 Why Listeners Choose Apple<br /> 28:03 Zune Era Video Podcasts<br /> 30:07 YouTube Parallel History<br /> 30:59 Winning Tech Standards<br /> 33:16 Reaching Younger Audiences<br /> 36:48 Hosting Costs and HLS<br /> 39:05 Creator Burden of Video<br /> 41:20 Future Screens in Cars<br /> 43:23 Marketing and Discovery Fixes<br /> 45:35 Alternative Enclosures Path<br /> 46:49 Wrap Up and Where to Follow</p> <p data-start="2493" data-end="2676"><strong>Guest Jay Nachlis Links</strong><br data-start="2504" data-end="2507" />Jay Nachlis LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2529" data-end="2568">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynachlis/</a><br data-start="2568" data-end="2571" />Coleman Insights: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://colemaninsights.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2589" data-end="2617">https://colemaninsights.com/</a><br data-start="2617" data-end="2620" />Tuesdays with Coleman: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2643" data-end="2676">https://colemaninsights.com/blog/</a></p> <p data-start="2678" data-end="3109"><strong>Host Rob Greenlee and Show Links</strong><br data-start="2697" data-end="2700" />New Media Show: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://newmediashow.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2716" data-end="2741">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br data-start="2741" data-end="2744" />Rob Greenlee: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://robgreenlee.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2758" data-end="2782">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br data-start="2782" data-end="2785" />Trust Factor Lab: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2803" data-end="2830">https://trustfactorlab.com/</a><br data-start="2830" data-end="2833" />Adore Creator Network: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2856" data-end="2881">https://adorenetwork.com/</a><br data-start="2881" data-end="2884" />Podcast Hall of Fame: <a class="decorated-link" href="https://podcasthall.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2906" data-end="2930" data-is-only-node="">https://podcasthall.com/</a><br data-start="2930" data-end="2933" />Rob Greenlee YouTube: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2955" data-end="2987">https://youtube.com/@robgreenlee</a><br data-start="2987" data-end="2990" />Rob Greenlee LinkedIn: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3013" data-end="3048">https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</a><br data-start="3048" data-end="3051" />Rob Greenlee Instagram: <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="3075" data-end="3109">https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee</a></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </section> </div> </div><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/can-apple-make-video-podcasts-matter-jay-nachlis-656/">Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? 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