New Media Show (Audio)
New Media Show (Audio)

New Media Show (Audio)

Rob Greenlee

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New Media Show with Rob Greenlee formerly co-hosted by Todd Cochrane RIP discussing the new media and podcasting space with new weekly guest co-hosts.

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Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654
MAR 12, 2026
Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654
<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1964" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/654-New-Media-Show-Episode-Erin.jpg 1400w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><strong>As AI becomes more embedded into content creation, discovery, and distribution</strong>, <strong>one truth is becoming clearer</strong>: the <strong>long-term</strong> <strong>winners in media may not be the fastest or the most automated.</strong> They <strong>may be the <em>most</em> human.</strong></p> <p>That was the core idea behind this conversation with <strong>Erin Diehl of Improve It! and the host of the Workday Playdate Podcast, and New Media Show host and Podcast Hall of Fame Inductee Rob Greenlee on New Media Show Episode 654</strong>, where we explored what it really means to build a media business rooted in trust, emotional connection, authenticity, and memorable audience experiences.</p> <p>Erin Diehl, founder of improve it! and host of the Workday Playdate podcast, brings a distinctive perspective to this discussion.</p> <blockquote><p><strong><em>Her work sits at the intersection of improv, leadership, communication, and community-building. On her podcast and in her live workshops, she focuses on helping people reconnect with empathy, listening, adaptability, humor, and playfulness as practical tools for stronger communication and leadership. Erin describes those same qualities as the traits of both a great improviser and a great human, and that framing shaped this entire conversation.</em> </strong>(<a title="Erin Diehl | High-Energy Improv Comedy Keynote Speaker" href="https://www.itserindiehl.com/meet-erin?utm_source=chatgpt.com">itserindiehl.com</a>)</p></blockquote> <p><strong>What made this episode especially timely is that it did not treat AI as the enemy.</strong> Instead, it argued that AI is becoming part of the infrastructure of modern media, especially in discovery, distribution, workflow, and scale, while human presence remains the true differentiator. I said during the episode that creators are still in the human media business, and Erin agreed that what continues to work is the authenticity of human experience.</p> <p>That idea matters because audiences are increasingly surrounded by an abundance of content. When everything becomes easier to generate, the value of presence, perspective, vulnerability, and emotional resonance goes up.</p> <blockquote><p><strong><em>Erin argued that humanity is not becoming less important in the AI era. It is becoming more important. She pointed to empathy, trust, culture, and connection as qualities that are not going away, even as new technologies reshape jobs, workflows, and media formats.</em></strong></p></blockquote> <p><strong>A major theme in this conversation was the role of play in serious work.</strong> Erin’s approach is not about being frivolous. It is about using play, improv, and emotional openness to create real breakthroughs in communication. In her workshops, she guides people step by step out of their comfort zones, not to embarrass them but to help them reconnect with spontaneity, attentiveness, and confidence. She explained that many adults lose that natural instinct for play as they grow older, replacing it with judgment, self-doubt, and emotional caution. Her work is designed to reverse some of that pattern and reawaken more authentic human interaction.</p> <p><strong>We also talked about how this translates directly into content creation.</strong> Erin shared that her podcast has become more than just a show. It is part of a broader ecosystem that supports her workshops, speaking, community, and business growth. She uses monthly themes to shape her episodes, guest selection, social content, and offers. That strategy helps create consistency, clarity, and a stronger trust pathway between audience attention and business outcomes. It is a smart reminder that a podcast today often works best when it is part of a larger media and relationship-building system.</p> <p><strong>Another valuable part of this episode was Erin’s openness about team building.</strong> She made it clear that creating across podcasting, social media, video, live events, and community is difficult to sustain on one&#8217;s own. She credited her team with helping manage production, guest coordination, marketing, logistics, sales, and creative execution. That is an important lesson for professional creators and media entrepreneurs. Building a durable media business often means building systems and support around your voice, not trying to do every part of the machine alone.</p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>We also dug into mindset, self-expression, and the emotional reality of being a creator today. Erin spoke candidly about doubt, comparison, and the danger of code-switching or muting your true personality to fit an environment. Her advice was direct: find the people, audiences, and teams that allow you to be more fully yourself. In a media environment increasingly shaped by algorithmic incentives and imitation, that may be one of the most important strategic advantages a creator can have.</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>This episode is really about a bigger question facing everyone in podcasting, video, and digital media right now:</strong> if AI can help produce and distribute content at scale, what still makes a creator matter? The answer from this conversation is not just better tools or smarter systems. It is humanity. It is the ability to make people feel seen, understood, energized, and connected. That is what creates trust. That is what builds community. And that is what makes a media business more durable over time.</p> <h2>Brief Episode Description</h2> <p>In New Media Show Episode 654, Rob Greenlee talks with Erin Diehl, founder of improve it! and host of Workday Playdate, about what it takes to build a truly human media business in an AI-driven era.</p> <p>They explore why trust, empathy, emotional intelligence, playfulness, authenticity, and community may become even more valuable as AI expands across media creation and distribution.</p> <p>The conversation also looks at how improv principles can strengthen podcasting, leadership, content strategy, live events, and audience connection. Erin shares how she built her business and shows around human transformation, while Rob frames why creators still need to think of themselves as being in the human media business first.</p> <h2>Key Takeaways</h2> <p><strong>&#8211; Creators are still in the human media business</strong>, even as AI becomes more useful for discovery, workflow, and distribution.</p> <p><strong>&#8211; Authenticity, empathy, trust, and emotional connection are becoming more valuable</strong> as content volume increases.</p> <p><strong>&#8211; Improv skills like listening, adaptability, humor, and presence map directly to stronger media creation and leadership.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; A podcast works best when it is part of a broader ecosystem that includes community, services, events, and business strategy.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Monthly content themes can help creators build a more focused and sustainable content engine across multiple platforms.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; In-person human experiences still have unique power</strong> in an increasingly digital media world.</p> <p><strong>&#8211; A strong team can be essential for creators trying to build across audio, video, social, and live experiences.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; The future of media may depend less on sounding polished and more on being unmistakably human.</strong></p> <h2>Relevant Links</h2> <p><strong>Host Rob Greenlee</strong><br /> <a href="https://robgreenlee.com/">https://robgreenlee.com/</a> (<a title="Rob Greenlee | Podcast Hall of Famer and 25 year New ..." href="https://robgreenlee.com/">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>New Media Show</strong><br /> <a href="https://newmediashow.com/">https://newmediashow.com/</a> (<a title="Rob Greenlee" href="https://newmediashow.com/author/rob/">New Media Show</a>)<br /> <strong>Rob Greenlee Live Podcasts</strong><br /> <a href="https://robgreenlee.com/live-podcasts/">https://robgreenlee.com/live-podcasts/</a> (<a title="Rob Greenlee Podcasts" href="https://robgreenlee.com/live-podcasts/">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>Rob Greenlee &amp; New Media Show YouTube</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee">https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee</a> (<a title="Rob Greenlee YouTube" href="https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>Spoken Human Show &#8211; YouTube</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman">https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman</a> (<a title="Spoken Human Show - YouTube" href="https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>LinkedIn &#8211; Rob Greenlee</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee">https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</a> (<a title="LinkedIn - Rob Greenlee" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>Instagram &#8211; Rob Greenlee</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee">https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee</a> (<a title="Instagram - Rob Greenlee" href="https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>X.com &#8211; Rob Greenlee</strong><br /> <a href="https://x.com/robgreenlee">https://x.com/robgreenlee</a> (<a title="Rob Greenlee X.com" href="https://x.com/robgreenlee">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>Adore Podcast Network</strong><br /> <a href="https://AdoreNetwork.com">https://AdoreNetwork.com</a> (<a title="Adore Podcast Network" href="https://AdoreNetwork.com">Rob Greenlee</a>)<br /> <strong>Podcast Hall of Fame</strong><br /> <a href="https://PodcastHall.com">https://PodcastHall.com</a> (<a title="Podcast Hall of Fame" href="https://PodcastHall.com">Rob Greenlee</a>)</p> <p><strong>Guest Erin Diehl</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.itserindiehl.com/meet-erin">https://www.itserindiehl.com/meet-erin</a> (<a title="Erin Diehl | High-Energy Improv Comedy Keynote Speaker" href="https://www.itserindiehl.com/meet-erin">itserindiehl.com</a>)<br /> <strong>improve it!</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.learntoimproveit.com/">https://www.learntoimproveit.com/</a> (<a title="Professional Development, Leadership, and Team Building ..." href="https://www.learntoimproveit.com/podcast-page">learntoimproveit.com</a>)<br /> <strong>Workday Playdate Podcast</strong><br /> <a href="https://www.learntoimproveit.com/podcast-page">https://www.learntoimproveit.com/podcast-page</a> (<a title="Professional Development, Leadership, and Team Building ..." href="https://www.learntoimproveit.com/podcast-page">learntoimproveit.com</a>)<br /> <strong>Workday Playdate on Apple Podcasts</strong><br /> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/workday-playdate/id1508450538">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/workday-playdate/id1508450538</a> (<a title="Workday Playdate - Podcast" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/workday-playdate/id1508450538">Apple Podcasts</a>)</p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/building-a-very-human-media-business-erin-diehl-654/">Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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81 MIN
Can Fiction Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652
MAR 1, 2026
Can Fiction Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652
<figure id="attachment_1934" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1934" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-1934" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/652-New-Media-Show-Episode-Lauren-Shippen.jpg 1400w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1934" class="wp-caption-text">New Media Show #652 with Rob Greenlee and Lauren Shippen</figcaption></figure> <p>On Episode 652 of the <strong>New Media Show</strong>, <strong>host Rob Greenlee</strong> shares a screen with <strong>Lauren Shippen, Creative Director at Atypical Artists</strong>, to <strong>tackle a <em>growing tension in creator media around audio fiction</em></strong>, which is thriving as a storytelling format but <strong>is being pressure-tested by the industry’s video-first discovery push</strong>.</p> <p>Fiction podcasts did not stop working. What changed is how platforms signal value, how audiences discover new shows, and how creators feel forced to look video-ready to compete.</p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>The real question for fiction creators in 2026 is not “How do I force my story into video?” It is “How do I protect the magic of audio storytelling while adding the right discovery layers for today’s platforms?”</strong></em></p></blockquote> <p>Lauren shares what fiction creators often misunderstand about sustainability, what typically breaks first when the story stalls, and where video helps, hurts, or becomes unrealistic.</p> <p>Rob lays out a practical framework for separating audio as the product from video as the discovery layer, plus realistic tiers of visual strategy that will not turn your show into a second production company.</p> <p><strong>Quick answers for creators</strong></p> <p><strong>What is the episode about</strong><br /> A practical conversation about protecting audio fiction storytelling while adapting to video-driven discovery across platforms in 2026.</p> <p><strong>Should fiction podcasts become video podcasts to grow</strong><br /> Not automatically. The strategy is to keep audio as the core product and use video selectively as a discovery layer when it improves reach without breaking the production model.</p> <p><strong>What is the biggest mistake fiction creators make</strong><br /> Trying to solve growth with promotion before fixing story retention fundamentals like onboarding, pacing, cadence, and season design.</p> <p><strong>How should fiction shows think about video?</strong><br /> As budget tiers. Start with lightweight discovery assets and only move toward full narrative adaptation if the economics and workflow support it.</p> <p><strong>Topics we cover</strong></p> <p>&#8211; Why fiction creators feel pulled between story-first goals and video-first platform expectations<br /> &#8211; The top growth inputs fiction creators still control, even when platforms shift<br /> &#8211; Story architecture that drives retention before promotion pacing, onboarding, cadence, and season design<br /> &#8211; Video pressure: what is real, what is hype, and what creators should ignore<br /> &#8211; Audio only vs video for fiction when format helps and when it hurts<br /> &#8211; Budget tiers for video lightweight discovery assets vs full narrative adaptation<br /> &#8211; Trailers as conversion assets and how to build a simple start here listener path<br /> &#8211; Why human recommendations still beat algorithm chasing for story shows<br /> Community reality checks what to prove before building Discord or fan spaces<br /> &#8211; Where AI helps scripted storytelling workflows, and where it can damage authorship and trust<br /> &#8211; A practical 30-day growth plan for fiction podcasters</p> <p>Chapters:</p> <p>00:00 Story Versus Screen<br /> 01:41 Meet Lauren Shippen<br /> 03:22 What Counts As Podcast<br /> 06:00 Video As Discovery<br /> 08:18 Netflix Podcast Strategy<br /> 15:30 Monetization And Paywalls<br /> 19:48 Apple Video Feed Tension<br /> 22:36 Always On Audio Fiction<br /> 27:47 Audience Growth Beyond Podcasts<br /> 32:50 AI Slop Versus Art<br /> 40:21 Sports Analogy For AI<br /> 42:38 Why AI Lacks Heart<br /> 43:31 Gaming and Interactive Futures<br /> 45:03 If Everyone Can Generate It<br /> 47:10 The Internet Shapes AI Adoption<br /> 48:45 Podcasting as Human Story<br /> 51:14 Blurring Fiction and Truth<br /> 54:01 Atypical Artist Slate Tour<br /> 57:17 Making Shows Work Economically<br /> 01:03:54 Producing and Adapting Workflow<br /> 01:06:04 Origin Story Bright Sessions<br /> 01:10:21 New Projects and Immersive Marketing<br /> 01:14:14 Serial Model and Journalism Worries<br /> 01:15:38 Fiction Podcast Evolution<br /> 01:17:22 Wrap Up and Next Episode Tease</p> <p><strong>Featured projects mentioned</strong></p> <p>The Bright Sessions<br /> Rebel Robin<br /> 2000 and Late<br /> Breaker Whiskey</p> <p><strong>Resource Links:</strong></p> <p><strong>Host: Rob Greenlee</strong> [<a href="https://robgreenlee.com">https://robgreenlee.com</a>]<br /> The New Media Show [<a href="https://newmediashow.com/">https://newmediashow.com/</a>]<br /> Adore Network [<a href="https://AdoreNetwork.com">https://AdoreNetwork.com</a>]<br /> Podcast Hall of Fame [<a href="https://PodcastHall.com">https://PodcastHall.com</a>]<br /> Rob on YouTube [<a href="https://YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee">https://YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee</a>]<br /> Rob on LinkedIn [<a href="https://LinkedIn.com/in/robgreenlee">https://LinkedIn.com/in/robgreenlee</a>]</p> <p><strong>Guest: Lauren Shippen</strong> [<a href="https://www.laurenshippen.com/">https://www.laurenshippen.com/</a>]<br /> Atypical Artists [<a href="https://www.atypicalartists.co/">https://www.atypicalartists.co/</a>]</p> <p>Book Rob Calendly [<a href="https://calendly.com/robgreenlee">https://calendly.com/robgreenlee</a>]</p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/can-fiction-story-podcasts-survive-video-push-lauren-shippen-652/">Can Fiction Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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Apple’s New Video Podcast Deep Dive | James Cridland #651
FEB 19, 2026
Apple’s New Video Podcast Deep Dive | James Cridland #651
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1917" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/New-Media-Show-Episode-APPLE-VIDEO.jpg 1400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />On Weds, February 18th Live Episode #651 of the New Media Show, <strong>Rob Greenlee, Host, 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer and CEO of Trust Factor Lab <a href="https://RobGreenlee.com">at https://RobGreenlee.com</a></strong>, and <strong>James Cridland, Editor, <a href="https://Podnews.net">https://Podnews.net</a> and 2026 Podcast Hall of Famer</strong> discuss Apple’s announcement of a new and improved video podcast experience in the Apple Podcasts app and what it changes technically and strategically heading into 2026. </span></p> <blockquote><p><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">They explain how video was previously active in Apple Podcasts but was hidden and poorly presented in the iOS apps, and how this new updated experience makes video playback front and center, with a “turn video off” option that keeps the audio track playing. </span></em></p></blockquote> <p><strong>The episode breaks down Apple’s preferred move to HLS-based on-demand video delivery (via a separate, proprietary API HLS video streaming pass-through submission from approved hosting partners) while still supporting legacy MP4 video via RSS. </strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">They cover HLS basics (chunked delivery, adaptive quality, reduced bandwidth, and hosting costs), improved seeking/scrubbing versus progressive MP4 playback, and new measurement implications (better insight into drop-off and ad viewing). A major focus is monetization: Apple plans to enable dynamic ad insertion for HLS video and charge a per-impression fee, positioning Apple to take revenue without operating an ad business. </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>The conversation notes early launch partners (Acast, Art19, Omny Studio, Simplecast)</strong>, questions about specs and rollout timing (an app update is likely by the end of March; dynamic ad features later in the year), and the risk of platform fragmentation as distribution shifts from open RSS to proprietary APIs. </span></p> <blockquote><p><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">James and Rob discuss alternate enclosures (Podcasting 2.0) as an open path to wider app support, reference iHeart’s stated support for video via RSS alternate enclosures, and highlight creator concerns about losing separate audio edits when video replaces the audio feed during playback. </span></em></p></blockquote> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">They also touch on device support (not initially on Apple TV; CarPlay doesn’t show video; Vision Pro support) and briefly discuss future RSS innovation ideas like comments, payments, transcripts, and location tags, plus a short note on upcoming podcast events (Podcast Show London, Podcast Movement New York, Podcast Movement at SXSW).</span></p> <p><strong>Chapter Topics:</strong><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">00:00 Welcome + Why Apple’s Video Podcast Update Matters</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:31 Apple Brings Video Front-and-Center (and Why Now)</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">06:00 The New Playback Experience: Full-Screen Video &amp; One Feed</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">10:49 How Apple’s HLS Video Works (and Why It’s Better)</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">11:36 The Money Shift: Dynamic Video Ads &amp; Apple’s Per-Impression Fee</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">17:59 Rollout Timeline, Unknown Specs, and Early Partner Shows</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">23:54 Partners, Two Ingestion Paths, and the RSS vs HLS Debate</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">34:47 Hands-On Demo: Video Icons, Turn Video Off, and MP4 vs HLS</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">39:47 Bandwidth, Scrubbing, and What HLS Enables for Measurement</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">44:16 Quality/Resolution Questions + Missing Apple TV (for Now)</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">46:26 CarPlay &amp; Vision Pro: Where Apple Podcasts Video Actually Plays</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">47:09 Will HLS Replace MP3 for Audio? Monetization, Costs, and Reality Check</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">49:51 Apple vs Spotify: Open Hosting, Dynamic Ads, and Why This Helps Creators</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">52:30 Audio Isn’t ‘Video Without Pictures’: Why Separate Edits Matter</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">55:21 Will It Work With Spotify for Creators? Partners, Megaphone, and Pressure</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:00:02 How HLS Interstitials Work: Client-Side Ad Breaks and Spec Unknowns</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:07:48 Keeping RSS Relevant: Alternate Enclosures, Comments, Payments, and New Tags</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:13:48 Local Podcasting &amp; Specialized Apps: Location Tag, TuneIn, and the Future</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:20:20 Wrap-Up: Conferences, Cold Weather, and Final Goodbyes</span></p> <p><b>What you will learn in this episode</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">&#8211; How Apple’s HLS video differs from RSS MP4 enclosures in real-world creator workflows </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&#8211; Why HLS segment-based delivery enables adaptive streaming and modern video ad insertion &#8211; What Apple’s limited launch partner list means for hosting competition and creator choice</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Podnews) &#8211; </span><a href="https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details</span></a></p> <p><strong>&#8211; How Apple Podcasts Connect API keys work, and what they do and do not grant to hosting providers </strong><span style="font-weight: 400;">&#8211; </span><a href="https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>&#8211; How creators should decide between RSS video, Apple HLS video, and other platform video strategies in 2026 &#8211;</strong> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/879749/apple-podcasts-video-swap-hls-live-streaming">https://www.theverge.com/tech/879749/apple-podcasts-video-swap-hls-live-streaming</a></span></p> <p><strong>Links for show notes</strong></p> <p><strong>Watch live or On Demand</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://newmediashow.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://newmediashow.com</span></a></p> <p><strong>Apple announcement</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/02/apple-introduces-a-new-video-podcast-experience-on-apple-podcasts/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/02/apple-introduces-a-new-video-podcast-experience-on-apple-podcasts/</span></a></p> <p><strong>Apple creator documentation</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://podcasters.apple.com/video-apple-podcasts"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podcasters.apple.com/video-apple-podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://podcasters.apple.com/support/3684-video-podcasts"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podcasters.apple.com/support/3684-video-podcasts</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><strong>Podnews analysis</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://podnews.net/update/apple-podcasts-hero"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://podnews.net/update/apple-podcasts-hero</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Guest James Cridland, Editor</strong>, <a href="https://podnews.net">https://Podnews.net</a></span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://james.cridland.net/biography/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://james.cridland.net/biography/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><strong>Host Rob Greenlee, 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame Inductee</strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><a href="https://robgreenlee.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://robgreenlee.com</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://x.com/robgreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://x.com/robgreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://podcasthall.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://PodcastHall.com</span></a></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/apples-new-video-podcast-deep-dive-james-cridland-651/">Apple’s New Video Podcast Deep Dive | James Cridland #651</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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How AI-Created Podcasts Impacting Humans? | Jeanine Wright #650
FEB 8, 2026
How AI-Created Podcasts Impacting Humans? | Jeanine Wright #650
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1905" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1-1320x1320.jpg 1320w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Square-Episode-Art-New-Media-Show-Thumbnail-Jeanine-Wright-1.jpg 1400w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><strong>AI-generated podcast hosts and shows are rapidly changing podcasting</strong>, video podcasting, and the creator economy across all distribution platforms, including AI LLMs. </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode of The New Media Show Live #650 from Feb 4th, 2026, Host </span><b>Rob Greenlee, CEO/Founder of Trust Factor Lab</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">, explores how AI-generated podcasts affect people, trust, and the future of media with </span><b>Jeanine Wright, Co-Founder and CEO of <a href="https://inceptionpoint.ai">Inception Point AI</a></b><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeanine Wright will help us better understand what Inception Point AI is building and why AI-generated personalities are different from human-created podcasts and AI-assisted editing tools. </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This conversation is designed to help podcasters, creators, media executives, and advertisers understand AI-generated podcast content without fear. It will be a clear, accurate discussion about how synthetic hosts work, how audiences respond emotionally, and what the next 12 to 24 months may look like as AI improves. </span></p> <blockquote><p><strong>As humans seem to be rejecting AI-generated content, its human consumption is growing and quality is rapidly improving.</strong></p></blockquote> <p><b>Key topics covered in this 60-minute conversation</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-AI-generated podcast hosts and synthetic media explained in plain language</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-How AI personalities are created using story plus technology</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-How listeners build trust and emotional attachment with AI voices</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Disclosure and transparency for AI-generated content</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Authenticity and credibility in AI-created podcasts versus human-created podcasts</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Ethics, consent, voice, likeness, and IP issues in synthetic media</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Brand safety, advertising readiness, and monetization for AI-hosted shows</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Platform discovery and distribution when AI content volume explodes</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-What human creators should do now to stay differentiated and future-proof?</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Practical strategies for building trust and growth in 2026 and beyond</span></p> <p><b>Who this episode is for</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Podcast creators and video creators</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Media companies, podcast networks, and platform teams</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Advertisers and brand safety leaders</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-Listeners curious about AI-generated content and the future of podcasting</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Watch live at </span><a href="http://youtube.com/@RobGreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and join the conversation</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Watch On-Demand/Podcast Audio and Video Versions at </span><a href="https://newmediashow.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://newmediashow.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><b>Guest</b><b><br /> </b><b>Jeanine Wright, Inception Point AI</b><b><br /> </b><a href="https://www.inceptionpoint.ai"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.inceptionpoint.ai</span></a></p> <p><b>Host</b><b><br /> </b><b>Rob Greenlee</b><b><br /> </b><a href="https://robgreenlee.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://robgreenlee.com</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://x.com/robgreenlee"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://x.com/robgreenlee</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://adorenetwork.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://AdoreNetwork.com</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br /> </span></a><a href="https://podcasthall.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://PodcastHall.com</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">00:00 Introduction to the New Media Show</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">00:55 Guest Introduction: Janine Wright</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:42 Addressing AI Controversies</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">05:18 AI&#8217;s Impact on Jobs and Content Quality</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">13:36 Exploring AI-Generated Content</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">14:41 AI Personalities and Content Creation</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">22:42 Future of AI in Content Creation</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">31:32 Transparency and Ethical Considerations</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">43:25 Human Creators in an AI-Driven World</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">46:40 Exploring Swap Farms and Bot Traffic</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">47:28 The Evolution of Podcast Quality</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">50:45 AI in Video Content Creation</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">52:20 Digital Clones and Ethical Considerations</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">56:50 AI Personalities and Content Creation</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:04:19 The Future of AI in Podcasting</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:23:09 Advertiser Reactions and Industry Impact</span><br /> <span style="font-weight: 400;">01:25:43 Final Thoughts and Future Conversations</span></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/how-ai-created-podcasts-impacting-humans-jeanine-wright-650/">How AI-Created Podcasts Impacting Humans? | Jeanine Wright #650</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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76 MIN
What Actually Grows a Podcast or Show Now? | Jordan Harbinger #649
JAN 31, 2026
What Actually Grows a Podcast or Show Now? | Jordan Harbinger #649
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1895" src="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-300x300.jpg" alt="New Media Show #649 - Guest Jordan Harbringer and Host Rob Greenlee" width="300" height="300" srcset="https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-300x300.jpg 300w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-150x150.jpg 150w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-768x768.jpg 768w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https://newmediashow.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Episode-New-Media-Show-Cover-Art-Jordan-Harbinger-1320x1320.jpg 1320w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><strong>This week in episode 649 of the New Media Show</strong>, <strong>Rob Greenlee is joined by Jordan Harbinger</strong> to <strong>unpack the question creators ask nonstop in 2026:</strong></p> <p><em><strong>What actually grows a podcast or show (and what doesn’t)? </strong></em></p> <p><em><strong>&#8211; Jordan’s core answer is refreshingly “boring,” but real: long-term consistency, and realistic expectations about how long monetization can take—even for shows that eventually become huge.</strong></em></p> <p><strong>From there, the conversation expands into the bigger shift happening right now:</strong></p> <blockquote><p><strong><em>&#8211; Audio podcasts increasingly competing (and collaborating) with video ecosystems especially YouTube where the “rules” and algorithmic expectations are fundamentally different from audio distribution.</em></strong></p></blockquote> <p>They also <strong>dig into platform strategy and brand-fit tension like whether “talk show” style content truly belongs on Netflix</strong>, and why creators may face tough tradeoffs when platforms want exclusivity that can limit reach elsewhere.</p> <p>After Jordan wraps and leaves the show, Rob closes with a rapid-fire, <strong>ranked set of growth plays emphasizing that none</strong> are <strong>magic bullets, but together they form a practical menu you can test based on your format and audience:</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Short-form clips (done well) to reach different audiences while recognizing shorts viewers don’t always convert to long-form listeners/viewers.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Guest/social amplification that’s genuinely value-add (not generic promo spam).</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Niche community, value-first posting built around knowing exactly who your show serves.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Owned audience via email/newsletter + even a WhatsApp group concept.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; AI clip volume + testing (alternate cuts, tighter versions, experimentation).</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Structured cross-promos / feed drops with comparable shows and fair “impressions”-style thinking.</strong></p> <p><strong>&#8211; Video distribution expansion including Spotify video (if Spotify makes changes) as another potential growth surface—and the emerging “start audio, finish video” behavior across devices.</strong></p> <p><strong>Guest: Jordan Harbinger</strong><br /> <strong>Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.jordanharbinger.com">https://www.jordanharbinger.com</a><br /> <strong>Podcast:</strong> <a href="https://www.jordanharbinger.com/podcast/">https://www.jordanharbinger.com/podcast/</a><br /> <strong>YouTube:</strong> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JordanHarbinger">https://www.youtube.com/@JordanHarbinger</a><br /> <strong>Instagram:</strong> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jordanharbinger/">https://www.instagram.com/jordanharbinger/</a><br /> <strong>LinkedIn:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanharbinger">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanharbinger</a><br /> <strong>X:</strong> <a href="https://x.com/jordanharbinger">https://x.com/jordanharbinger</a></p> <p><strong>Host: Rob Greenlee and New Media Show Links</strong><br /> <strong>Rob Greenlee Website</strong> &#8211; <a href="https://robgreenlee.com/">https://robgreenlee.com/</a><br /> <strong>New Media Show (Audio &amp; Video) &#8211;</strong> <a href="https://newmediashow.com/">https://newmediashow.com/</a><br /> <strong>New Media Show Audio (Apple Podcasts) &#8211;</strong> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-media-show-audio/id392545649">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-media-show-audio/id392545649</a><br /> <strong>Rob Greenlee on YouTube &#8211;</strong> <a href="https://youtube.com/@RobGreenlee">https://youtube.com/@RobGreenlee</a><br /> <strong>Podfest Expo &#8211;</strong> <a href="https://podfestexpo.com">https://podfestexpo.com</a> &#8211; <a href="https://podcasthall.com">https://podcasthall.com</a></p><p>The post <a href="https://newmediashow.com/what-actually-grows-a-podcast-or-show-now-jordan-harbinger-649/">What Actually Grows a Podcast or Show Now? | Jordan Harbinger #649</a> first appeared on <a href="https://newmediashow.com">New Media Show</a>.</p>
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77 MIN