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Moe and Jenna Abdou interview a highly influential roster of founders, venture capitalists, CEO's, master thinkers, bestselling authors, academic minds, and creatives to deconstruct the hidden insights that only those who are building breakthrough ventures can reveal. For ten years now, 33voices has engaged closely with founders, senior executives and company builders to identify interesting & pressing challenges that give rise to thoughtful dialogue with contributors who not only think differently, but who represent the frontiers of knowledge in business, culture and lifestyle.

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Flourishing as a Practice
MAR 24, 2026
Flourishing as a Practice
I often remind myself of Jon Kabat-Zinn's insight: "When we understand that life is the curriculum, life itself becomes the meditation." Still, until recently, I only understood half the sentiment. Initially, I internalized it in a responsive manner. When life presented an opportunity to practice mindfulness, especially a challenge, I would respond in kind. It wasn't until reading Dr.Richard J. Davidson and Dr.Cortland Dahl's new book, Born to Flourish, that the quote finally landed. Jon's invitation isn't solely to respond with compassionate presence. It is to intend it in each moment. This is one of the central revelations Dr.Davidson and Dr.Dahl inspire (and my favorite line in the book)… "Flourishing is not a destination, but a practice." As Dr.Dahl illuminates, we often have elaborate visions of what it means to flourish. Still, each moment is an opportunity to practice the four skills in their framework: awareness, connection, insight, and purpose. To start, they encourage you to reflect on your daily routines and identify opportunities to infuse them with intention. It can be as simple as practicing gratitude while walking your dog or reflecting on our sense of interdependence before eating a meal. While these micro-practices may seem simple, compounded over time, they lead to neuro-plastic changes (causing the behaviors to unfold spontaneously) and elevate your baseline. Since reading Born to Flourish, I truly have come to see life as the meditation. As if with new eyes, I now see every interaction as an opportunity to practice. I move through my day with a deeper sense of joy and expansiveness; More attuned to the kindness of others and the goodness in the world. Two of my most revered teachers, Dr.Davidson and Dr.Dahl make a transformative difference in my life. They've devoted their life's work to studying the neuroscience of flourishing at The Center for Healthy Minds at The University of Wisconsin-Madison—where they conducted the first studies on advanced meditators' brains—as well as at their non-profit Humin. We explore their pioneering research and practices to wire your brain to flourish. To become the "architect of your inner experience," we learn how meditation alters the way that your brain responds to pain, how (and when) to shape the encoding of your memories, and why our subjective experience can be more impactful than our objective one, as well as how to relate to it. I hope our discussion will elevate your vitality as it did mine.
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79 MIN
How to Prime Your Brain For Joy—with Dr.Wendy Suzuki
AUG 12, 2025
How to Prime Your Brain For Joy—with Dr.Wendy Suzuki
Take a moment to recall one of your most joyful memories. Now, close your eyes and relive it. Where were you? Who were you with? How did you feel? Focus on your senses. What did you see and hear? Smell and taste? Spend a few minutes reliving this memory. How did this mini-meditation make you feel? This is a practice called Joy Conditioning, created by Dr.Wendy Suzuki. Since learning it, I've started my morning meditation by reliving my beautiful moments from the day prior. This simple ritual transformed my energy; Inspiring feelings of awe, abundance, and appreciation to start the day. Dr. Suzuki is an author, the Dean of Arts and Sciences at New York University, as well as a Professor of Neural Science and Psychology. Her research focuses on brain plasticity. She's done pioneering studies on anxiety, meditation, exercise, and memory. Still, the heart of her work is how we can prime our brains to experience more joy. The first step? Cultivate an activist mindset. This is the throughline of Dr.Suzuki's work: In illuminating our agency to change our beliefs, she empowers us to transform our energy. As she writes in, Good Anxiety: "When you believe that you are able to adapt, you will feel yourself thrive as you adapt." We explore these tools to do so in our conversation… The impact chronic stress has on your brain and how to reverse it Identifying and freeing yourself from anxiety triggers Exercise as the most powerful tool to promote brain plasticity and preserve your memory How to change the stories you tell yourself and adopt new beliefs (in a surprisingly playful way!) Why joy is essential to flow and high performance
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68 MIN
An Activist's Journey Leading the Clean Living Movement
AUG 5, 2025
An Activist's Journey Leading the Clean Living Movement
After Lindsay Dahl graduated from college, she was seeking a job in the environmental non-profit space. Despite being passionate about climate change, she landed a role in consumer safety. Soon after, she was invited to meet with one of the top environmental organizations in Minnesota. They hoped she'd support their advocacy efforts to remove toxic chemicals from baby products. Kids weren't on Lindsay's radar. Still, she said 'yes' and returned to her office for a late night of research. Her discoveries changed the course of her life—and yours. Lindsay's research revealed that toxic chemicals that are added to consumer products—from skin care to pans to mattresses—negatively impact our health. Studies link these toxic chemicals to asthma, immune system damage, cancer, infertility, and more. Since that fateful meeting, Lindsay has been the lead strategist for the passage of over 30 laws to advance consumer safety, protect public health, and address climate change. She's also established new standards for businesses through her leadership at Beautycounter and Ritual, where she is currently Chief Impact Officer. I've always appreciated Lindsay's discerning approach to activism. Our first conversation was the catalyst in prioritizing clean products for my family (a gift I'm forever thankful for). Still, her new book, Cleaning House, offers an even deeper awakening: Products made with harmful chemicals don't just influence your family's health. They can have severe implications for other families and the planet. (Chemical exposure for those who live in fenceline communities, where these chemicals are made or trash is incinerated, can lead to debilitating health outcomes.) This is the heart of Cleaning House and the next chapter of Lindsay's advocacy. "We've made so much progress in the consumer marketplace," she shared. "Now, we need to have a more global and public health view, versus an individual wellness lens. If we stop at: You can shop your way out of this. There's a lot of communities that don't have the time, resources, or financial ability to purchase safer products. It leaves those who can't afford to relocate in a position where they're being overly burdened with toxic chemical exposure, which is unjust." Thanks to Lindsay, this topic is dear to my heart. Our intention for this conversation was to inform and empower you to make decisions that are healthier for your family, other families, and the planet. So, we did a deep dive on… The health implications of the toxic chemicals in our everyday products Tips to shop safer for your family A behind the scenes look at the regulation, and the corporate malfeasance that occurs when it's weak Lindsay and her colleagues' extraordinary reform efforts Steps you can take to advance this movement Despite the challenges of activism, Lindsay is the most hopeful she's ever been. I hope her wisdom will be as perspective-shifting for you, as it is for me.
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65 MIN
Letting Go as an Act of Self-Compassion—with Sharon Salzberg
JUN 27, 2025
Letting Go as an Act of Self-Compassion—with Sharon Salzberg
When Sharon Salzberg was teaching at a meditation retreat, a student asked her: Has anyone ever died of restlessness in meditation? Sharon said: Not from one moment at a time of it. "We have physical pain, disappointment, restlessness, and anxiety," Sharon shared. "Whatever it is, we tend to compound it, not only: This is what I'm feeling right now. But, this is what I'm going to feel like next year. Everything congeals and feels permanent and heavy. But, when we realize that it's one moment at a time of it. Then, we can explore. What we see is that even though something may last over time, within itself it's moving. It's changing and flowing. It's in the live system. As a friend with a severe chronic pain condition said: "I found the space within the pain." How do you discover the space within the pain? As a renowned author, teacher, and meditation pioneer, Sharon has made a transformative difference in my internal dialogue; Most significantly, in helping me avoid being overcome by my emotions. (My most repeated Sharon phrase is: The point isn't not to have the emotion. It's not to be overcome by it.) In our conversation, we explore how to discern the add-ons to our internal narrative, let go of those that don't serve us, and cultivate compassion towards ourselves and others. Sharon describes mindfulness as skills training. With sustained practice, these tools become ingrained; Surfacing to help you question your thoughts and redirect your energy in the moment. "Situations are complex," she added. "But, if we've practiced that skill, we remember to go back into the body and feel what we're feeling. We cultivate a certain sense of balance—That's the skill." If you feel inspired to listen to our past conversations, you can tune in here: The Cultivation of Freedom and Happiness and The Journey from Contraction to Expansiveness
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55 MIN