More than a Few Words
More than a Few Words

More than a Few Words

Lorraine Ball

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More than a Few Words - A Marketing Conversation is a smart, down-to-earth show about what’s really working in marketing and what isn’t. All in about 10 minutes. Every week, Lorraine Ball sits down with marketers, entrepreneurs, and the occasional mischief-maker. Some are seasoned pros. Others are figuring it out as they go. But all of them share tips you can use. And stories you won’t hear anywhere else. No fluff, no jargon, just real-world lessons, actionable ideas, and a peek behind the curtain of what actually works. What You’ll Hear: • Real talk with real experts—marketers, creatives, business owners who’ve been in the trenches. • Marketing strategies you can actually use—no jargon, no gatekeeping. • Encouragement without the ego—especially for women building bold businesses on their own terms. • A mix of wit, wisdom, and the occasional marketing metaphor—because learning should feel like a good conversation, not a lecture. We’ll unpack what’s working, what’s not, and what’s changing in the digital marketing world so you can spend less time guessing and more time growing. Whether you’re growing a brand from your kitchen table or the corner office, you’ll find ideas, inspiration, and a few laughs along the way. Follow @lorrainefball on Instagram, for a more marketing conversations and lots of pretty pictures . Smart. Practical. Surprisingly fun. More than a Few Words is your marketing conversation

Recent Episodes

Lessons from an Abandoned Podcast and a Botched Book Launch | Tim Brownson | #1179
DEC 14, 2025
Lessons from an Abandoned Podcast and a Botched Book Launch | Tim Brownson | #1179
In this episode of What Went Wrong, I chatted with Tim Bronson, the Fully Booked Coach, who came armed with not one but two “what went wrong” tales. Both are a little painful, a little funny, and packed with lessons marketers can actually use. First, there was the podcast that wasn’t. Back in 2008, Tim marched into a music store, dropped a grand on shiny equipment he didn’t understand, then promptly lost his nerve when it didn’t work. Without a clear plan or patience for the learning curve, he packed it up and walked away before ever recording a single episode. Fast-forward to 2019, and Tim’s book relaunch hit another snag. Following advice to line up 50 reviews at launch, he asked 50 people for help, assumed their polite “yes” meant they’d actually deliver, and stopped there. The result? Not nearly enough momentum to push the book up the Amazon charts. Two very different mistakes, but the themes are familiar to anyone who’s ever launched…well, anything. Impulse without preparation. Expectations without math. Starting strong but not following through. Key Points Success takes more than enthusiasm. Without a plan, even the best ideas fizzle. Technology and tactics get easier, but the discipline of sticking with it never changes. People will say “yes” to be nice. That’s not the same as showing up. Momentum matters. Half-measures rarely hit tipping points. Actionable Takeaways Do the prep work. Before buying tools or chasing tactics, get clear on what you’re building and why. Scale your numbers. If you need 50 reviews, ask 150. If you want 100 sign-ups, plan for 1,000 invites. Build in the buffer. Stick with it. The first version is always messy. Resist the urge to abandon ship before giving yourself time to learn. Don’t stop too soon. Momentum compounds—keep pushing even after you think you’ve done “enough.” Ask for help. Whether it’s a tech-savvy friend or a launch-savvy strategist, outside perspective can save you time and money. In short? Marketing isn’t about never making mistakes—it’s about making them, learning fast, and not letting them be the end of the story. About Tim  Tim Brownson is the owner of The Fully Booked Coach and has been coaching full-time since 2005. After turning his blog A Daring Adventure into one of the web’s top life-coaching destinations, he pivoted in 2012 to help fellow coaches master no-BS marketing. His book The Clarity Method is used by hundreds of coaches worldwide to uncover core values and fuel client breakthroughs. After spending 14 years in Orlando, he is now firmly ensconced in the very wet but very beautiful county of Cornwall in England with his wife and two Dobermans. Learn More :  https://thefullybookedcoach.com/  
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Time to Say Goodbye to Your Imaginary Marketing Friend | Rachel Allen| #1178
DEC 7, 2025
Time to Say Goodbye to Your Imaginary Marketing Friend | Rachel Allen| #1178
When you were a kid, having an imaginary friend was harmless, maybe even healthy. But as a business owner? That imaginary friend can tank your marketing. Too many businesses build their strategy around an avatar that looks neat on paper but has nothing to do with the real people who buy from them. In this episode of *More Than a Few Words*, Rachel Allen and I dig into why client avatars often miss the mark and what you can do instead. **Key Insights**• Demographics alone are useless. Age, gender, and job title won’t tell you what keeps someone awake at 3 a.m. Worries and motivations matter more than surface stats.• Your best customers live at the intersection of three groups: the people you want to talk to, the ones you actually attract, and the ones willing to pay. That sweet spot is your marketing home base.• Data flattens people into averages. Great marketing leans into quirks, because quirks are what make your audience pay attention. **Actionable Takeaways**• Swap demographics for psychographics. Go deeper into what your audience values, fears, and hopes for.• Talk to 10 or 20 real people. Forget long surveys. Short, human conversations reveal more than a polished PDF ever will.• Audit your own copy. Ask yourself, “Would I say this sentence out loud to the last customer I spoke with?” If the answer is no, rewrite it.• Bring in an outside perspective. A trusted colleague, a coach, even a tool like ChatGPT can help you see blind spots you can’t catch alone.• Don’t shy away from edges. The quirky details that make your audience unique are the ones that make your marketing memorable. If you’re still writing for your imaginary friend, this conversation is your wake-up call. Stop talking to make-believe customers and start connecting with the real ones who are ready to listen.   About Rachel Allen  Rachel Allen is a fast-thinking, deeply nerdy marketer with broad-ranging experience in for-profit and non-profit sectors. She’s written for some of the biggest (and smallest) names in business, and excels at marketing that's equal parts data-driven and human-centered. Having run a marketing business for 17 years with clients in 21+ countries, Rachel’s written for some of the top names in entrepreneurship, as well as influencers, brick-and-mortar businesses, and non-profits around the world. Her work has contributed directly to high-ROI launches, leaps in audience engagement, industry awards, relationships with top venture capital firms, and national-level honors. Find out more at boltfromthebluecopywriting.com  
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What’s Bullying Your Marketing? | Lorraine Ball | More than a Few Words | #1177
NOV 30, 2025
What’s Bullying Your Marketing? | Lorraine Ball | More than a Few Words | #1177
We all have closet bullies. Those are clothes that don’t fit, don’t flatter, or just don’t feel right anymore. But we hang on to them anyway, hoping someday they’ll magically work. Every time we open the closet, there they are, reminding us of money wasted or goals unmet. Turns out, my marketing to-do list had a few bullies of its own. Projects I meant to start. Brilliant ideas that just never made it off the page. Every time I saw them, I felt a little guilty. So I did what I did with my closet, I cleaned house. Some ideas were great… for someone else’s business. Off they went. Others? I pushed them a few months out, with a note to myself: if I’m still not ready then, it’s time to let them go for good. And you know what? The minute I cleared out those marketing bullies, I felt lighter. I could actually see the projects that mattered — the ones that fit my business right now. Here’s your takeaway: Clear the clutter. If an idea or project has been hanging around forever, either commit or cut it. Make room for what fits. When you drop the guilt and the “someday” tasks, you’ll have the space — and the energy — for marketing that actually works. So, what’s bullying your marketing list? Maybe it’s time to tell it to hit the road. If you've enjoyed this conversation, if it's prompted an idea or a question, I'd love to hear from you. Hop over to https://morethanafewwords.com/contact.  Drop me a note or better yet, record a quick message. Maybe I'll even include in an upcoming show.  
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Influence, Trust, and the Art of Real Conversations | Sarah Stahl | Marketing Conversations | #1176
NOV 23, 2025
Influence, Trust, and the Art of Real Conversations | Sarah Stahl | Marketing Conversations | #1176
The conversation began, as many of mine do, with a topic I think we already understand.  This time it was influencer marketing. But before I could even roll my eyes at another mention of hashtags and brand deals, the discussion took a sharp turn toward something far more interesting: trust, storytelling, and what it really means to build relationships in a digital world that doesn’t trust much anymore. That shift came courtesy of Sarah Stahl, co-founder of Market Movers. She’s knee-deep in the world where AI, marketing, and hospitality overlap—a place where the glossy brand voice is fading fast, and authentic creators are taking the spotlight. Listening to her, I realized this isn’t just about influencers. It’s about how we all show up as marketers. What Makes a Good Creator Partnership Sarah’s approach to creators feels refreshingly human. She doesn’t chase follower counts; she looks for people who know how to build relationships. She compares choosing a creator to hiring an employee—sometimes you think you’ve found “the one,” and then day one tells a different story. That hit home for me. I’ve hired those “perfect” people before too, only to realize the chemistry wasn’t there. Her advice? Start small, watch how they work, and build from there. The Power of Storytelling We talked about how hard it is to sell something you can’t touch or taste online. Think about restaurants—how do you market flavor through a screen? The best creators don’t just post photos; they tell stories that make people feel the experience. Sarah shared a beautiful story about one of her creators who found healing while working on a campaign. That moment of real emotion became part of the brand story—and honestly, that’s the kind of marketing that stays with people. When Things Go Sideways At some point, every brand faces it: a creator says something that doesn’t quite fit. My instinct as a business owner is to cringe, but Sarah made me pause. “Perfection breeds mistrust,” she said. And she’s right. People don’t expect flawless; they expect real. When something uncomfortable happens, it’s an opportunity to step into the conversation—not hide from it. The New Rules of Visibility Sarah also made a point that stopped me in my tracks. AI tools like ChatGPT aren’t pulling most of their information from your shiny website—they’re pulling from stories. Creator content, real conversations, reviews. If your brand isn’t in that mix, you’re invisible. That’s a wake-up call for every business owner clinging to the “if we build it, they will come” mindset. Key Takeaways • Build trust first. Pick creators who care more about their audience than their follower count.• Find your storytellers. The ones who can make your product or service feel real.• Don’t panic over imperfection. Use it as a chance to connect, not retreat.• Invest in the relationship. The best results come from creators who grow with you.• Stay part of the conversation. The future of search and AI belongs to brands that keep showing up authentically. Influencer marketing isn’t about trends or chasing the next viral post. It’s about people—real voices telling real stories. And if you treat it that way, marketing starts to feel a whole lot less like work and a whole lot more like a conversation. And if that sounds a little too simple—good. Because simple usually works.   About Sarah Stahl Sarah Stahl, co-founder of Market Movers lives at the intersection of AI marketing and hospitality. If you’ve ever wondered how to turn “just another rental” into a brand guests remember (and actually book direct), that’s my sweet spot. I’m obsessed with helping property owners cut through the noise, escape OTA dependence, and build systems that truly sell themselves. These days, I’m 100% focused on agentic search and direct booking strategies because the future of hospitality marketing isn’t about chasing algorithms, it’s about building brands guests can’t forget. Always creative, always candid—that’s me.
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#1175 Right Idea, Wrong Team: Lessons from a $200 Million Miss | Danny Kirk
NOV 16, 2025
#1175 Right Idea, Wrong Team: Lessons from a $200 Million Miss | Danny Kirk
Sometimes, early success can fool you into thinking you’ve built the perfect business. That’s what happened to Danny Kirk, who launched a software-as-a-service company right after finishing a music degree. He and his co-founder found a great niche, landed a $4,500 sale on a $300 MVP, and took off fast. The catch? Neither of them could actually build the product beyond that first version. They were great at selling and marketing but never filled their technical gap — and that’s what cost them. Five years later, they sold the business, while a competitor in the same space sold to Oracle for $200 million. Same idea, different outcome. Here’s what Danny learned: Find your missing piece early. Whether it’s a technical co-founder, a contractor, or even AI tools to bridge the gap, make sure every critical skill is covered before you scale. Build a team that makes you uncomfortable. The best collaborators are the ones who spot problems you don’t want to see and tell you the truth, even when it stings. Reward people who speak up. Create systems or incentives that encourage team members to flag issues — big or small — before they turn into disasters. As Danny put it, success isn’t about doing everything yourself. It’s about knowing what you can’t do,  and finding the right people (or tools) to fill that gap. About Danny Kirk Danny Kirk is a classically trained trumpet player, turned entrepreneur and small business owner. He’s started and grown multiple companies over the past decade, and now does growth marketing at ReddiReach for startups and SMBs, 500+ and counting.  Learn more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielpkirk/  https://reddireach.com/   Let's make this a conversation.   Leave a comment or voice message with a question, marketing tip or idea for an upcoming show. 
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