<description>&lt;p&gt;Many of the biggest AI models have been trained on film and TV dialogue, and writers are furious. John and Craig explore the legal, ethical and philosophical implications of this revelation, our emotional reactions to it, and offer strategies for picking the right hills to die on.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But first, we follow up on the definition of horror vs. thriller, generational narcissism, and young people’s ambition. We also answer listener questions on when to bail on a script and how to approach your first contract.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In our bonus segment for premium members, we dig into the philosophical implications of Craig believing we live in a simulation, and whether that necessarily implies a creator. Woah, man.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Links:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408790/"&gt;Flightplan&lt;/a&gt; (and &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030341/"&gt;The Lady Vanishes&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/opensubtitles-ai-data-set/680650/"&gt; There’s No Longer Any Doubt That Hollywood Writing Is Powering AI&lt;/a&gt; by Alex Reisner for The Atlantic&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://downloads.regulations.gov/COLC-2023-0006-8501/attachment_1.pdf"&gt; Vince Gilligan Statement on AI to USCO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.lunchables.com/"&gt;Lunchables&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer"&gt;The Serenity Prayer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hSXIuPBwM"&gt;Jon Batiste hears Green Day for the First Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@tinekeyounger/video/7300777943238790443?embed_source=121374463%2C121468991%2C121439635%2C121433650%2C121404359%2C121477481%2C121351166%2C121487028%2C121331973%2C120811592%2C120810756%2C121489688%3Bnull%3Bembed_share&amp;refer=embed&amp;referer_url=www.allrecipes.com%2Ftini-viral-macaroni-and-cheese-8409676&amp;referer_video_id=7300777943238790443"&gt; Tini’s Mac and Cheese&lt;/a&gt; on TikTok&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://cottonbureau.com/people/scriptnotes-podcast"&gt;Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://inneresting.substack.com/"&gt;Check out the Inneresting Newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://scriptnotes.supportingcast.fm/gifts"&gt;Gift a Scriptnotes Subscription&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href= "https://scriptnotes.supportingcast.fm/"&gt;treat yourself to a premium subscription!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Craig Mazin on &lt;a href= "https://www.threads.net/@clmazin"&gt;Threads&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/clmazin/"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;John August on &lt;a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/johnaugust.bsky.social"&gt;BlueSky&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.threads.net/@johnaugust"&gt;Threads&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/johnaugust/?hl=en"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href= "https://mastodon.art/@johnaugust"&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "http://johnaugust.com/2013/scriptnotes-the-outros"&gt;Outro&lt;/a&gt; by Nick Moore (&lt;a href="http://johnaugust.com/2014/outros-needed"&gt;send us yours!&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Scriptnotes is produced by Drew Marquardt and edited by &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/machelli"&gt;Matthew Chilelli&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Email us at ask@johnaugust.com&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You can download the episode &lt;a href= "http://traffic.libsyn.com/scriptnotes/669standard.mp3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Scriptnotes Podcast

John August and Craig Mazin

669 - They Ate Our Scripts

DEC 17, 202459 MIN
Scriptnotes Podcast

669 - They Ate Our Scripts

DEC 17, 202459 MIN

Description

Many of the biggest AI models have been trained on film and TV dialogue, and writers are furious. John and Craig explore the legal, ethical and philosophical implications of this revelation, our emotional reactions to it, and offer strategies for picking the right hills to die on.

But first, we follow up on the definition of horror vs. thriller, generational narcissism, and young people’s ambition. We also answer listener questions on when to bail on a script and how to approach your first contract.

In our bonus segment for premium members, we dig into the philosophical implications of Craig believing we live in a simulation, and whether that necessarily implies a creator. Woah, man.

Links:

Email us at [email protected]

You can download the episode here.