A look back at Apple’s 2025, with special guest Rene Ritchie. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The classic Mac OS Appearance Manager and its support for (rather garish) themes: ATPM, August 2000: “GUI Junkie: Schemin’ and Themin’” by Christopher Turner. Includes screenshots. Wikipedia: Appearance Manager. Luria Petrucci celebrates 20 years on YouTube. Steve Jobs on product people vs. sales/marketing people, back in the early 1990s. John Browett’s brief tenure running retail at Apple back in 2012. His sacking was effectively a footnote in the announcement that Apple had parted with Scott Forstall. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.