Sami talks with Sam Landsberg, head of sales at <a href="https://light.inc/" rel="nofollow">Light</a>, about the wide world of fintech and how they’re working to simplify accounting software for businesses big and small.

Sam lays out his journey into the world of fintech and how he came to work with Light, the way they utilise AI with clients to condense the human element of accounting, and Sami challenges Sam’s knowledge of animals with a surprise pop quiz. 

—

You can <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samlandsberg/" rel="nofollow">connect with Sam on LinkedIn</a> or <a href="https://light.inc/" rel="nofollow">contact his company Light</a> if you’re looking to refresh your accountancy software. 

Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through <a href="https://samibirnbaum.com" rel="nofollow">his website</a> or via <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.

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<description>Sami talks with Sam Landsberg, head of sales at Light (https://light.inc/), about the wide world of fintech and how they’re working to simplify accounting software for businesses big and small.
Sam lays out his journey into the world of fintech and how he came to work with Light, the way they utilise AI with clients to condense the human element of accounting, and Sami challenges Sam’s knowledge of animals with a surprise pop quiz. 
—
You can connect with Sam on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samlandsberg/) or contact his company Light (https://light.inc/) if you’re looking to refresh your accountancy software. 
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website (https://samibirnbaum.com) or via LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/).
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com).
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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</description>

Sami talks with Sam Landsberg, head of sales at Light, about the wide world of fintech and how they’re working to simplify accounting software for businesses big and small.

598: Animals and AI Accounting with Sam Landsberg

Chad talks with developer and guitarist Nick Merwin about the challenges of balancing his career in development with his life as a musician. 

Nick tells of his time delivering code on the road as a guitarist with the band <a href="https://capitalcities.com" rel="nofollow">Capital Cities</a>, the pros and cons of working as a solo programmer, what he’s learnt from saying yes for so many years, and Chad asks whether AI is diluting the art of coding. 

—

Nick can be heard playing with <a href="https://capitalcities.com" rel="nofollow">his band Capital Cities</a>, alternatively you can <a href="https://x.com/nickmerwin" rel="nofollow">follow him on X</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmerwin/" rel="nofollow">connect with him on LinkedIn</a>.

Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpytel/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.

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<description>Chad talks with developer and guitarist Nick Merwin about the challenges of balancing his career in development with his life as a musician. 
Nick tells of his time delivering code on the road as a guitarist with the band Capital Cities (https://capitalcities.com), the pros and cons of working as a solo programmer, what he’s learnt from saying yes for so many years, and Chad asks whether AI is diluting the art of coding. 
—
Nick can be heard playing with his band Capital Cities (https://capitalcities.com), alternatively you can follow him on X (https://x.com/nickmerwin) or connect with him on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmerwin/).
Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpytel/).
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com).
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. 
Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/thoughtbotvideo) - Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/thoughtbot.com)
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Chad talks with developer and guitarist Nick Merwin about the challenges of balancing his career in development with his life as a musician.

597: Say Yes with Nick Merwin

Sami revisits his time on a recent project for <a href="https://sheer.dk/en/" rel="nofollow">Sheer</a> as he talks with it’s CTO and founder Mads Ulrik Svendsen about the ever evolving and creative world of influencers.

Mads talks about the story of <a href="https://sheer.dk/en/" rel="nofollow">Sheer</a>, how they’re helping influencers maximise their potential and creativity, where they expect to see change in the industry over the coming years, the desire for authenticity in a world of AI content, and Sami is determined to discover just what it would take to become an influencer in 2025.

—

If you want to get in touch with Mads about anything you’ve heard on todays show <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/madsulrik/" rel="nofollow">you can connect with him through LinkedIn</a> or directly via email - <a href="mailto:mads@sheer.dk" rel="nofollow">mads@sheer.dk</a>

Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through <a href="https://samibirnbaum.com" rel="nofollow">his website</a> or via <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.

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<description>Sami revisits his time on a recent project for Sheer (https://sheer.dk/en/) as he talks with it’s CTO and founder Mads Ulrik Svendsen about the ever evolving and creative world of influencers.
Mads talks about the story of Sheer (https://sheer.dk/en/), how they’re helping influencers maximise their potential and creativity, where they expect to see change in the industry over the coming years, the desire for authenticity in a world of AI content, and Sami is determined to discover just what it would take to become an influencer in 2025.
—
If you want to get in touch with Mads about anything you’ve heard on todays show you can connect with him through LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/madsulrik/) or directly via email - mads@sheer.dk
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website (https://samibirnbaum.com) or via LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/).
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com).
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. 
Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/thoughtbotvideo) - Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/thoughtbot.com)
© 2025 thoughtbot, inc. 
</description>

Sami revisits his time on a recent project for Sheer as he talks with it’s CTO and founder Mads Ulrik Svendsen about the ever evolving and creative world of influencers.

596: Building Bridges Between Brands and Creators: The Story of Sheer

Sami, Chad and Will share the projects they’ve been working on at thoughtbot recently and how they adapt to new systems they’re unfamiliar with. 

Sami shares his recent horror at the animal kingdom and how he might be getting into crypto, Chad reveals how he invests his time into thoughtbot whilst also managing to stay on top trending tech, and the group discuss best practices for dealing with clients. 

—

Against Chad’s wishes you can watch <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/1mhrq7z/spiderlings_eat_their_own_mum_parenthood_bbc/" rel="nofollow">Sami’s spider video here</a>, but we don’t recommend it! 

You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through <a href="https://samibirnbaum.com" rel="nofollow">his website</a>. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpytel/" rel="nofollow">Chad</a> - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-larry/" rel="nofollow">Will</a> - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/" rel="nofollow">Sami</a>.

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<description>Sami, Chad and Will share the projects they’ve been working on at thoughtbot recently and how they adapt to new systems they’re unfamiliar with. 
Sami shares his recent horror at the animal kingdom and how he might be getting into crypto, Chad reveals how he invests his time into thoughtbot whilst also managing to stay on top trending tech, and the group discuss best practices for dealing with clients. 
—
Against Chad’s wishes you can watch Sami’s spider video here (https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/1mhrq7z/spiderlings_eat_their_own_mum_parenthood_bbc/), but we don’t recommend it! 
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website (https://samibirnbaum.com). You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpytel/) - Will (https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-larry/) - Sami (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/).
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com).
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. 
Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/thoughtbotvideo) - Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/thoughtbot.com)
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</description>

Sami, Chad and Will share the projects they’ve been working on at thoughtbot recently and how they adapt to new systems they’re unfamiliar with.  

595: Projects in Progress and Nature’s Ultimate Sacrifice

Sami assesses the long term viability of AI with Pablo Curell, software developer at <a href="https://www.recovr.eu/en" rel="nofollow">Recovr</a>, as they break down the hype and logistics that surround the popular tool. 

The pair examine why it’s still important you learn to code, what AI’s best use cases are now and what they could be in the future, what a successful AI product actually looks like on the back end, as well as the ever growing and unsustainable economics behind AI tokens. 

—

Read the article mentioned in this week’s episode - <a href="https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/?ref=ed-zitrons-wheres-your-ed-at-newsletter&attribution_id=68d5b5a4ba9b3e00014d8ab5&attribution_type=post" rel="nofollow">The Case Against Generative AI</a>

Check out Pablo’s podcast<a href="https://aji.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow"> A Junior, A Senior and I</a> for similar discussions and perspectives on the world of tech, or follow him on social media - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablocm90/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a> - <a href="https://hostux.social/@pacumo" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a> - <a href="https://blog.codemanship.dev" rel="nofollow">Website</a> 

Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through <a href="https://samibirnbaum.com" rel="nofollow">his website</a> or via <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.

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<description>Sami assesses the long term viability of AI with Pablo Curell, software developer at Recovr (https://www.recovr.eu/en), as they break down the hype and logistics that surround the popular tool. 
The pair examine why it’s still important you learn to code, what AI’s best use cases are now and what they could be in the future, what a successful AI product actually looks like on the back end, as well as the ever growing and unsustainable economics behind AI tokens. 
—
Read the article mentioned in this week’s episode - The Case Against Generative AI (https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/?ref=ed-zitrons-wheres-your-ed-at-newsletter&amp;attribution_id=68d5b5a4ba9b3e00014d8ab5&amp;attribution_type=post)
Check out Pablo’s podcast A Junior, A Senior and I (https://aji.podbean.com/) for similar discussions and perspectives on the world of tech, or follow him on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablocm90/) - Mastodon (https://hostux.social/@pacumo) - Website (https://blog.codemanship.dev) 
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website (https://samibirnbaum.com) or via LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/).
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com).
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. 
Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/thoughtbotvideo) - Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/thoughtbot.com)
© 2025 thoughtbot, inc. 
</description>

Sami assesses the long term viability of AI with Pablo Curell as they break down the hype and logistics that surround the popular tool. 

594: AI is Draining with Pablo Curell

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