I've been trying to learn how to program since 1985. This past year, at 38 years old, I finally figured out how.Questions we discuss in this episode:<ul><li>Is there only "one" way to learn how to code?</li><li>Why is getting started SO HARD?</li><li>How did Justin finally figure out a way to learn programming?</li></ul>Show notes<ul><li>Get the book: <a href="https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/ultralearning/">Ultralearning</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scotthyoung.com/">Scott's blog</a></li><li>PDF: <a href="https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758/BF03195929.pdf">The science of cycology</a></li></ul>The latest from Justin:<ul><li><a href="https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/">Want to start a podcast?</a></li><li>My podcasting startup: <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a></li><li>Join Justin's newsletter <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=productpeople">justinjackson.ca/newsletter</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin">@mijustin</a></li><li>Listen to my startup podcast: <a href="https://saas.transistor.fm/">Build your SaaS</a></li></ul>★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?<ul><li><a href="https://megamaker.co/club">Join MegaMaker Clu</a></li></ul>
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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;I've been trying to learn how to program since 1985. This past year, at 38 years old, I finally figured out how.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Questions we discuss in this episode:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Is there only "one" way to learn how to code?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why is getting started SO HARD?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How did Justin finally figure out a way to learn programming?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Show notes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Get the book: &lt;a href="https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/ultralearning/"&gt;Ultralearning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.scotthyoung.com/"&gt;Scott's blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PDF: &lt;a href="https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758/BF03195929.pdf"&gt;The science of cycology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The latest from Justin:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/"&gt;Want to start a podcast?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;My podcasting startup: &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm"&gt;Transistor.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Join Justin's newsletter &lt;a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=productpeople"&gt;justinjackson.ca/newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Twitter: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin"&gt;@mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Listen to my startup podcast: &lt;a href="https://saas.transistor.fm/"&gt;Build your SaaS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://megamaker.co/club"&gt;Join MegaMaker Clu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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How to master a new skill (even if you think you're too old to try)

EP101 – Scott Young: teach yourself how to program, finally!

James Clear describes how you can improve your life, using small incremental steps that add up to big wins.Questions we discuss in this episode:<ul><li>How does "what you repeatedly do" affect your identity?</li><li>How does someone’s context affect their ability to set and maintain good habits? Are good habits only for people of privilege? </li><li>How can you maintain habits for people with depression, anxiety or attention deficit?</li><li>How to form habits when your schedule is not in your control? (if you have kids, etc...)</li><li>If you do fall out of a habit, what should you do? Revive it, or let it go?</li><li>What systems and tools can you use to help automate, facilitate or help ingrain healthy habits?</li></ul>Show notes<ul><li>Get the book: <a href="http://atomichabits.com">Atomic Habits</a></li><li><a href="https://www.baronfig.com/products/clear-habit-journal">Get the habits journal</a></li><li>Steven Pressfield: "Stevie Wonder’s territory is the piano. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s is the gym. When Bill Gates pulls into the parking lot at Microsoft, he’s on his territory"</li><li><a href="https://seths.blog/2015/12/decoding-who-is-it-for/">Seth Godin</a>: "Who is it for, and what is it for?"</li><li><a href="https://seths.blog/2013/07/people-like-us-do-stuff-like-this/">Seth Godin</a>: “People like us do things like this.”</li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/9pc9v8/i_am_james_clear_author_of_atomic_habits/">James Clear's AMA on Reddit</a></li><li>Read James' blog: <a href="https://jamesclear.com/">JamesClear.com</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/JamesClear/status/1048612840615997441">James Clear</a>: "Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become."</li><li>Nir Eyal shuts off his internet <a href="https://medium.com/@InVisionApp/picking-nir-eyal-s-brain-about-habit-forming-products-92470df3189a">every night</a></li><li>James Clear: "When you're struggling with a new habit, your effort's not wasted, it's just being stored."</li></ul>The latest from Justin:<ul><li>My new startup: <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a></li><li><a href="http://podcast2019.com">Podcast in 2019!</a></li><li>Join Justin's newsletter <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=productpeople">justinjackson.ca/newsletter</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin">@mijustin</a></li><li>Listen to my startup podcast: <a href="https://saas.transistor.fm/">Build your SaaS</a></li><li><a href="https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/">Want to start a podcast?</a></li></ul>★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?<ul><li><a href="https://megamaker.co/club">Join MegaMaker Club</a></li><li><a href="https://devmarketing.xyz">Looking for your app's first 100 customers?</a></li></ul>
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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;James Clear describes how you can improve your life, using small incremental steps that add up to big wins.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Questions we discuss in this episode:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;How does "what you repeatedly do" affect your identity?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How does someone’s context affect their ability to set and maintain good habits? Are good habits only for people of privilege? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How can you maintain habits for people with depression, anxiety or attention deficit?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How to form habits when your schedule is not in your control? (if you have kids, etc...)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you do fall out of a habit, what should you do? Revive it, or let it go?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What systems and tools can you use to help automate, facilitate or help ingrain healthy habits?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Show notes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Get the book: &lt;a href="http://atomichabits.com"&gt;Atomic Habits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.baronfig.com/products/clear-habit-journal"&gt;Get the habits journal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Steven Pressfield: "Stevie Wonder’s territory is the piano. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s is the gym. When Bill Gates pulls into the parking lot at Microsoft, he’s on his territory"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://seths.blog/2015/12/decoding-who-is-it-for/"&gt;Seth Godin&lt;/a&gt;: "Who is it for, and what is it for?"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://seths.blog/2013/07/people-like-us-do-stuff-like-this/"&gt;Seth Godin&lt;/a&gt;: “People like us do things like this.”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/9pc9v8/i_am_james_clear_author_of_atomic_habits/"&gt;James Clear's AMA on Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Read James' blog: &lt;a href="https://jamesclear.com/"&gt;JamesClear.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/JamesClear/status/1048612840615997441"&gt;James Clear&lt;/a&gt;: "Every action you take is a &lt;strong&gt;vote&lt;/strong&gt; for the type of person you wish to become."&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nir Eyal shuts off his internet &lt;a href="https://medium.com/@InVisionApp/picking-nir-eyal-s-brain-about-habit-forming-products-92470df3189a"&gt;every night&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;James Clear: "When you're struggling with a new habit, your effort's not wasted, it's just being stored."&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The latest from Justin:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;My new startup: &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm"&gt;Transistor.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://podcast2019.com"&gt;Podcast in 2019!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Join Justin's newsletter &lt;a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=productpeople"&gt;justinjackson.ca/newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Twitter: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin"&gt;@mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Listen to my startup podcast: &lt;a href="https://saas.transistor.fm/"&gt;Build your SaaS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/"&gt;Want to start a podcast?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://megamaker.co/club"&gt;Join MegaMaker Club&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://devmarketing.xyz"&gt;Looking for your app's first 100 customers?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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"Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become."

EP100 – James Clear: improving your life in 2019 with Atomic Habits

Ben is the co-founder of Tuple.app and is running a new course called Habits for Hackers.★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?<ul><li><a href="https://megamaker.co/club">Join MegaMaker Club</a></li></ul>Show notes<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/r00k">Ben Orenstein on Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.habitsforhackers.com/">Habits for Hackers</a></li><li><a href="https://brokenrecordpodcast.com/#/episode-1-rick-rubin/">Malcolm Gladwell and Rick Rubin talking about Johnny Cash</a></li><li><a href="https://tuple.app/">Ben's working on a new product: Tuple.app</a></li><li><a href="http://bootstrappedweb.com/ben-orenstein-joins-us-talk-bootstrapping/">Ben's episode on Bootstrapped Web </a></li><li><a href="https://tinyseed.com/">TinySeed</a></li><li><a href="https://earnestcapital.com/">Earnest Capital</a></li><li><a href="https://gist.github.com/r00k/eafb8de3d362902d84d9b55dc61de4a0">Ben's co-founder weekly retro questions</a></li><li><a href="http://learntopair.com">learntopair.com</a> - Ben's guide to pair programming</li><li><a href="https://artofproductpodcast.com/">Art of Product podcast</a></li><li>Book: <a href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits">Atomic Habits by James Clear</a></li></ul>The latest from Justin:<ul><li>My new startup: <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a></li><li><a href="http://podcast2019.com">Podcast in 2019!</a></li><li>Join Justin's newsletter <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=productpeople">justinjackson.ca/newsletter</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin">@mijustin</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/mijustin">instagram.com/mijustin</a></li></ul>
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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Ben is the co-founder of Tuple.app and is running a new course called Habits for Hackers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://megamaker.co/club"&gt;Join MegaMaker Club&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Show notes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/r00k"&gt;Ben Orenstein on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.habitsforhackers.com/"&gt;Habits for Hackers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://brokenrecordpodcast.com/#/episode-1-rick-rubin/"&gt;Malcolm Gladwell and Rick Rubin talking about Johnny Cash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tuple.app/"&gt;Ben's working on a new product: Tuple.app&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bootstrappedweb.com/ben-orenstein-joins-us-talk-bootstrapping/"&gt;Ben's episode on Bootstrapped Web &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tinyseed.com/"&gt;TinySeed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://earnestcapital.com/"&gt;Earnest Capital&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://gist.github.com/r00k/eafb8de3d362902d84d9b55dc61de4a0"&gt;Ben's co-founder weekly retro questions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://learntopair.com"&gt;learntopair.com&lt;/a&gt; - Ben's guide to pair programming&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://artofproductpodcast.com/"&gt;Art of Product podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Book: &lt;a href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits"&gt;Atomic Habits by James Clear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The latest from Justin:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;My new startup: &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm"&gt;Transistor.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://podcast2019.com"&gt;Podcast in 2019!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Join Justin's newsletter &lt;a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=productpeople"&gt;justinjackson.ca/newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Twitter: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin"&gt;@mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Instagram: &lt;a href="https://instagram.com/mijustin"&gt;instagram.com/mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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Ben is the co-founder of Tuple.app and is running a new course called Habits for Hackers.

EP99 – Ben Orenstein's new startup is focused on pair programming

Jason Cohen asks Justin Jackson hard questions about his startup, <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=justin">Transistor.fm</a>, and what it's going to take to go full-time.This is the second half of our chat. Part 1 was really just setting the stage. Part 2 digs into the real-life challenges of bootstrapping a business.★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?<ul><li><a href="https://megamaker.co/club">Join MegaMaker Club</a></li></ul>Show notes<ul><li><a href="http://podcast2019.com">Podcast in 2019!</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/1068773791952584704">Justin's original tweet</a></li><li>Blog post: <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/sideproject">Can you bootstrap on the side?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/Ja5Btf3uxdQ">Watch this interview on YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/asmartbear">Jason Cohen on Twitter</a></li></ul>The latest from Justin:<ul><li>My new startup: <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a></li><li>Join Justin's newsletter <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=productpeople">justinjackson.ca/newsletter</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin">@mijustin</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/mijustin">instagram.com/mijustin</a></li></ul>
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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Jason Cohen asks Justin Jackson hard questions about his startup, &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=justin"&gt;Transistor.fm&lt;/a&gt;, and what it's going to take to go full-time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the second half of our chat. Part 1 was really just setting the stage. Part 2 digs into the real-life challenges of bootstrapping a business.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;★ Looking for a community of bootstrappers?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://megamaker.co/club"&gt;Join MegaMaker Club&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Show notes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://podcast2019.com"&gt;Podcast in 2019!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/1068773791952584704"&gt;Justin's original tweet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Blog post: &lt;a href="https://justinjackson.ca/sideproject"&gt;Can you bootstrap on the side?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/Ja5Btf3uxdQ"&gt;Watch this interview on YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/asmartbear"&gt;Jason Cohen on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The latest from Justin:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;My new startup: &lt;a href="https://transistor.fm"&gt;Transistor.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Join Justin's newsletter &lt;a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_campaign=productpeople"&gt;justinjackson.ca/newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Twitter: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin"&gt;@mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Send Justin a message on Instagram: &lt;a href="https://instagram.com/mijustin"&gt;instagram.com/mijustin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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Jason Cohen asks Justin Jackson hard questions about his startup, and what it's going to take to go full-time.

EP98 – The hard truth about bootstrapping startups (Part 2 with Jason Cohen)

When you're building a startup you have these questions:<ul><li>Should I work on my startup on the side, and grow it slowly?</li><li>Should I take investment and go full-time sooner?</li></ul>These are the questions that have been circulating in my head over the past few months.Which is why when Jason Cohen, founder of WPengine and someone I respect, replied to my tweet, I took note:"It’s difficult to find successful companies where founders didn’t work 80+ hours and took longer than four years to get to $1M ARR. If you're two years in and you still need a day job then by definition it doesn’t have good fundamentals. I usually think of "$10k/month/founder" as a rough measure of whether you're ready for full-time. Saying that should take three years is wrong. It's hard to find that companies that live and took that long." Today we'll be digging into that! (Check back next week for Part 2)★ Looking for community of bootstrappers?<ul><li><a href="https://megamaker.co/club">Join MegaMaker Club</a></li></ul>Show notes<ul><li><a href="http://podcast2019.com">Podcast in 2019!</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/1068773791952584704">Justin's original tweet</a></li><li>Blog post: <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/sideproject">Can you bootstrap on the side?</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/ESZ3ViBEC3U">Watch this interview on YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/asmartbear">Jason Cohen on Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://wpengine.com/blog/milestone-announcement/">WPEngine recently raised $250 million</a></li></ul>The latest from Justin:<ul><li>My new startup: <a href="https://transistor.fm">Transistor.fm</a></li><li>Join Justin's newsletter <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/indie?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=productpeople">justinjackson.ca/newsletter</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/mijustin">@mijustin</a></li><li>Send Justin a message on Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/mijustin">instagram.com/mijustin</a></li></ul>
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Justin Jackson interviews Jason Cohen from WPengine about bootstrapping, and what it really takes to grow a company.

EP97 – Can you bootstrap a company on the side? (Part 1 with Jason Cohen)

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