<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🚨 &lt;span style="color: red"&gt;LAST CALL! &lt;/span&gt; 🚨 &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/store"&gt;ATP Holiday Store&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;open&lt;/strong&gt;! 🗣️ Place your orders by &lt;strong&gt;Sunday&lt;/strong&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aperture was not a purchase; it was developed by Apple. (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@stormchild/113447816450759341"&gt;Jason Sims&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14-inch-m4"&gt;&amp;#8220;Plain&amp;#8221; M4 MacBook Pro&lt;/a&gt; and external displays (via Eric Roch)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/"&gt;Mac mini&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;Modular&amp;#8221; storage

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlF0NVXS70"&gt;Quinn&amp;#8217;s teardown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJPXLE9uPr8"&gt;&lt;code&gt;dosdude1&lt;/code&gt; demonstrates an upgrade&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR3C3AM/A/apple-8tb-ssd-upgrade-kit-for-mac-pro"&gt;Apple 8TB SSD Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@paul@tapbots.social/113456300604131424"&gt;Differences between M4 and M4 Pro SSDs&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tapbots.social/@paul/113459606782938496"&gt;Benchmarks&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/mac-mini-m4-review"&gt;M4&amp;#160;512&amp;#160;GB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nfA78A5ptw&amp;amp;t=3m31s"&gt;M4 Pro 512&amp;#160;GB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtdGxBeSkz8"&gt;iFixit Teardown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/121003"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s replacement guide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Other tidbits

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heatsink differences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;256&amp;#160;GB = 2× 128&amp;#160;GB&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wi-Fi &amp;amp; Bluetooth are their own PCB&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;code&gt;#askatp&lt;/code&gt;: setting up external SSDs (via Peter Welpton)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Thunderbolt performance limits&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@westacular/113454295504278301"&gt;Geekbench scores across Apple Silicon&lt;/a&gt; (via Wes Campaigne)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@westacular/113454295504278301"&gt;iPhone Pro Clock speeds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@kcase/113476801562808371"&gt;Ken Case&amp;#8217;s observation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-12/apple-home-hub-detailed-apple-intelligence-homeos-square-ipad-like-design"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s smart home ambitions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;code&gt;#askatp&lt;/code&gt;:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Should users be worried that 8/16GB RAM is &amp;#8220;claimed&amp;#8221; by Apple Intelligence? (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@andrewsleigh/113407743327262837"&gt;andrewsleigh&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Why can&amp;#8217;t Apple make a Studio Display with MacBook Pro backlight technology? (via Henri Sivonen)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What power user hacks can we not live without? (via Ryan Tierney)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.alfredapp.com"&gt;Alfred&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://matthewpalmer.net/rocket/"&gt;Rocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hypercritical.co/switchglass/"&gt;SwitchGlass&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hypercritical.co/front-and-center/"&gt;Front and Center&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: Marco&amp;#8217;s Mac Mini setup

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0942YC7Z3?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;Marco&amp;#8217;s OWC drive enclosure&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: Vision Pro cheerleading

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://infosec.exchange/@tcb/113445132522066151"&gt;Patrick&amp;#8217;s original question&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

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</description>

More details on the M4 and Mac Mini, and the rumored Apple… WallPod? HomeScreen? Intellivision. There we go. No potential naming issues at all.

613: Dress for the Chip You Want

<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: Politics later.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/195"&gt;#195: The Show Must Go On&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAQ2lEfIJg8"&gt;Overcast link&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/store"&gt;ATP Holiday Store&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;open&lt;/strong&gt;! 🗣️ Place your orders by &lt;strong&gt;17 November&lt;/strong&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/"&gt;Mac mini&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Headphone jack placement&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mas.to/@snazzyq/113414900419647513"&gt;Quinn&amp;#8217;s observation&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr5/ct32g75c2lp5xg"&gt;Cruical 32GB DIMM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-990-pro-nvme-2-0/p/N82E16820147860"&gt;Samsung SSD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/imac"&gt;iMac&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2024/11/04/apple-removed-imac-accessories-color-matched-trackpad-and-mouse/"&gt;Apple removes color-matched pointing devices option&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;M4 vs. M4 Pro/Max SSD limits&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8588187"&gt;M4 Pro&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8593555"&gt;M4 Max&lt;/a&gt; performance&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-13-3-inch-Laptop-Space-Gray-M1-Chip-8GB-RAM-256GB-storage/609040889"&gt;Walmart still sells a Mac with 8GB RAM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/31/apple-usb-c-accessories-macos-sequoia/"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s new USB-C Accessories require Sequoia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC9C4AM/A/thunderbolt-5-usb%E2%80%91c-pro-cable-1-m"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s $69 Thunderbolt 5 cable&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dluz/113419935976661825"&gt;Daniel Luz&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There exists &lt;a href="https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-pro-dock"&gt;at least one dock&lt;/a&gt; with 10GbE (via Daniel Nelson)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ssn_VimnQ"&gt;iFixIt&amp;#8217;s iPad Mini (A17 Pro) teardown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AppleTV gaming (via &lt;a href="https://is.nota.live/@killvore/113379111757612566"&gt;killvore&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Keyboard Cleaning &amp;amp; MacBook Booting

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cleanupbuddy.app"&gt;CleanupBuddy&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@_inside"&gt;Gui Rambo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alternative incantation from Daniel Pieper 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Power the machine off&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Left&lt;/strong&gt; ⌃ and ⌘ as well as &lt;strong&gt;Right&lt;/strong&gt; ⇧ for 7 seconds&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;While still holding&lt;/em&gt;, hold the power button for 7 seconds&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; an &lt;a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/102605#t2"&gt;SMC reset&lt;/a&gt;, but it&amp;#8217;s close.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Only lasts until the next boot 😑&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.pixelmator.com/blog/2024/11/01/a-new-home-for-pixelmator/"&gt;Apple buys Pixelmator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://sixcolors.com/post/2024/11/apple-sinks-1-1-billion-into-globalstars-satellite-network-takes-ownership-stake/"&gt;Apple buys stake in Globalstar&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=23913530"&gt;Press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.globalstar.com/"&gt;Globalstar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/03/apple-vision-pro-with-m5-chip-rumor/"&gt;Vision Pro v2 changes?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1853045198416490806"&gt;Ming-Chi Quo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-11-03/apple-finally-finds-its-game-console-rival-with-the-new-m4-and-m4-pro-mac-minis-m31na57p"&gt;Mark Gurman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: Group therapy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: Apple Intelligence experiences

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://duck.haus/@joesteel/113398452493645037"&gt;Photo cleanup shoot-out by Joe Rosensteel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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More details about the new Macs, M4 Pro and Max benchmarks, why Apple TV isn't a game platform, and future hardware possibilities for the Vision Pro line.

612: Screen on Face

<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: Marco did his homework! (😱)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjvzQeqoGRg&amp;amp;pp=ygUPc3VibWVyZ2VkIGFwcGxl"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mckittrickhotel.com/events/sleep-no-more/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sleep No More&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Americans, &lt;a href="https://www.vote.org/"&gt;please vote&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href="https://kamalaharris.com/"&gt;Harris/Walz&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Please don&amp;#8217;t elect a &lt;a href="https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-27-2024"&gt;racist with facist goals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/24282022/kamala-harris-endorsement-presidential-election-2024"&gt;A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for school shootings and measles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/113396997619345981"&gt;No, Kamala isn&amp;#8217;t perfect, but she&amp;#8217;s &lt;em&gt;far&lt;/em&gt; better.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://iwillvote.com/"&gt;I Will Vote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://vote.gov/"&gt;&lt;code&gt;vote.gov&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/store"&gt;ATP Holiday Store&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;open&lt;/strong&gt;! 🗣️ Place your orders by &lt;strong&gt;17 November&lt;/strong&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October Macs

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monday: &lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-new-imac-supercharged-by-m4-and-apple-intelligence/"&gt;iMac&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaB7nCdId0Y"&gt;Announcement video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/113385814708741893"&gt;The RAM drought is over!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JsjvNrrbk&amp;amp;t=246s"&gt;120Hz display‽&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/28/24276043/apple-new-usb-c-magic-mouse-charging-port-bottom"&gt;The turtle remains harpooned&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Magic Keyboard with &lt;em&gt;lock key&lt;/em&gt;‽ 🤨

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/225605720021"&gt;Prior art&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@webjac/113396850225901539"&gt;Relocated Fn key?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kxNJ7ptMxk"&gt;Quinn&amp;#8217;s video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tuesday: &lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apples-new-mac-mini-is-more-mighty-more-mini-and-built-for-apple-intelligence/"&gt;Mac mini&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtFm9n3NVzE"&gt;Announcement video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/thunderbolt-5-vs-thunderbolt-4"&gt;Thunderbolt 5 vs. Thunderbolt 4&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC9C4AM/A/thunderbolt-5-usb%E2%80%91c-pro-cable-1-m"&gt;Apple Thunderbolt 5 Pro Cable&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wednesday: &lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/new-macbook-pro-features-m4-family-of-chips-and-apple-intelligence/"&gt;MacBook Pros&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cmfY7qdmY"&gt;Announcement video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: Marco bought something. Because &lt;em&gt;of course&lt;/em&gt; he did.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: &lt;a href="https://security.apple.com/blog/pcc-security-research"&gt;Security research on Private Cloud Compute&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/_saagarjha/status/1849520078871724458"&gt;Odd licensing&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/apple/security-pcc/blob/main/LICENSE"&gt;License&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41943354"&gt;Mike Hearn&amp;#8217;s discoveries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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The new Mac Mini, updated iMacs and MacBook Pros, putting things on bottoms, and some fun surprises.

611: RAM Christmas

<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: We&amp;#8217;re still grumpy about &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-storage-media"&gt;the most recent member&amp;#8217;s special&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-powerful-new-ipad-mini-built-for-apple-intelligence/"&gt;New iPad Mini&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/22/does-ipad-mini-7-fix-jelly-scrolling"&gt;&amp;#8220;Jelly Scrolling&amp;#8221; is fixed?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24275956/apple-ipad-mini-2024-review"&gt;David Pierce disagrees though&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-debuts-the-first-scripted-film-captured-in-apple-immersive-video/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and Vision Pro demos (via Kevin Markham)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/23/apple-may-stop-producing-vision-pro-by-end-of-2024/"&gt;Apple may stop producing Vision Pro soon?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some follow-up from the &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-storage-media"&gt;most recent member&amp;#8217;s special&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Photo editing

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposing_to_the_right"&gt;Exposing to the right&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LacsIpstyfc"&gt;DPReview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More via Sam Doran&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Color spaces

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;…are only applicable on JPEGs (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@LeoNatan/113322956836158138"&gt;Léo Natan&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.laanscapes.com/blog/srgb-vs-adobe-rgb-color-profile"&gt;Daniel Laan&amp;#8217;s take&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What do we do with our computer&amp;#8217;s color tweaks while editing (via Josh Harris)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&amp;#8217;s thoughts on cropping&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Parallelizing file compression/decompression

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/saagargjha/unxip"&gt;&lt;code&gt;unxip&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@mihaip/113331604499909771"&gt;Mihai Parparita&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More from &lt;code&gt;unxip&lt;/code&gt; author &lt;a href="https://federated.saagarjha.com/notice/An9LZvKQc5rmCE07Ki"&gt;Saagar Jha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/applearchive"&gt;Apple Archive&lt;/a&gt; (see also &lt;code&gt;aa&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;No hats, no walkmen&amp;#8221; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@felix_t_fois/113283544153586221"&gt;Dan Pierce&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone SE 4 rumors

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aside: iPhone product mix from &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/609"&gt;ATP #609 Overtime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2024/10/12/iphone-se-4-case-leak/"&gt;Case leak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;October Macs? 🧐&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ask ATP:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do we protect sensitive information like driver&amp;#8217;s licenses? (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@ritchey_de/113165621655578207"&gt;Jochen Marschall&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do we assist parents with account management and legacy planning? (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@Kalebmotter/113011977095592611"&gt;Kaleb&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do we clean our keyboards‽ (via Randall Miller)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://folivora.ai/keyboardcleantool"&gt;KeyboardCleanTool&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: John&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="https://qsapp.com/"&gt;Quicksilver&lt;/a&gt; update

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.alfredapp.com/"&gt;Alfred&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.obdev.at/launchbar"&gt;LaunchBar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.raycast.com"&gt;Raycast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: What even &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a photo, anyway?

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/23/24252231/lets-compare-apple-google-and-samsungs-definitions-of-a-photo"&gt;The Verge&amp;#8217;s post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/apple-intelligence-3833c320"&gt;Craig Federighi&amp;#8217;s WSJ interview&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/23/24277489/apple-intelligence-iphone-ai-photo-editing-craig-federighi-interview"&gt;The Verge&amp;#8217;s recap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24258764/iphone-pixel-camera-google-photos-memories-ai-edits"&gt;More from Allison Johnson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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Who will be the last person in the world using Quicksilver? We'll give you one guess.

610: More Values in the Darkness

<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8217;s special: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-storage-media"&gt;ATP Tier List: Storage Media&lt;/a&gt; 🗣️&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marco updates

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch/id1164801111"&gt;AutoSleep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone leather backs

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://suti.co/products/phoneback?variant=48977462231335"&gt;Suti PhoneBack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://nomadgoods.com/products/magnetic-leather-back-black-horween-iphone-16-pro-max"&gt;Nomad Magnetic Leather Back&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HDR photos from big cameras&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple laptops &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; run without a battery connected

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://xkcd.com/2998/"&gt;XKCD: Ravioli-Shaped Objects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/10/24266763/apple-tv-plus-amazon-prime-video-add-on-subscription"&gt;You can soon get Apple TV+ on Prime Video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Soccer corner

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/01/apple-tv-kicks-off-first-ever-all-access-major-league-soccer-docuseries-offering-fans-a-never-before-seen-insiders-view-on-the-2024-season/"&gt;&amp;#8220;Drive to Survive&amp;#8221; knockoff is coming&lt;/a&gt; (via Devon Dundee)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;On Messi/MLS popularity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0cjyk2w"&gt;Shipping Forecast&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@antonyjohnston/113288711283904817"&gt;Antony Johnson&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Enabling/disabling audio modes on AirPods 4 w/ ANC (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@1minus1/113285603861357283"&gt;Scott Zero&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&amp;#8217;s AirPods update&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Exchange_Format"&gt;GPX&lt;/a&gt; exports for geotagging photos (via &lt;a href="https://avgeek.social/@rpmik/113193316040791204"&gt;Ryan Mikulovsky&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://pedometer.app/"&gt;Pedometer++&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More thoughts on global keyboard shortcuts in Sequoia (via Michael Berk)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsevent/1535472-addglobalmonitorforevents"&gt;&lt;code&gt;NSEvent.addGlobalMonitorForEvents&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Passkey benefits

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2024/10/14/new-passkeys-import-export/"&gt;Import/export is forthcoming&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://fidoalliance.org/fido-alliance-publishes-new-specifications-to-promote-user-choice-and-enhanced-ux-for-passkeys/"&gt;Press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.1password.com/fido-alliance-import-export-passkeys-draft-specs/"&gt;1Password blog post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://the-decoder.com/apple-ai-researchers-question-openais-claims-about-o1s-reasoning-capabilities/"&gt;Apple says &amp;#8220;🤨&amp;#8221; to OpenAI claims about reasoning&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229"&gt;Research paper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/mfarajtabar/status/1844456880971858028?s=61"&gt;Thread from Mehrdad Farajtabar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/llms-dont-do-formal-reasoning-and"&gt;More from Gary Marcus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Jl0dxWQs8&amp;amp;list=PLZHQObOWTQDNU6R1_67000Dx_ZCJB-3pi"&gt;How LLMs might store facts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24265832/google-search-antitrust-remedies-framework-android-chrome-play"&gt;Google breakup is a possibility&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-search-remedies-framework/"&gt;Google&amp;#8217;s response&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-powerful-new-ipad-mini-built-for-apple-intelligence/"&gt;New iPad Mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-debuts-the-first-scripted-film-captured-in-apple-immersive-video/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYJcUtVIB_g&amp;amp;pp=ygUTbWFraW5nIG9mIHN1Ym1lcmdlZA%3D%3D"&gt;Making of &lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergence-accommodation_conflict"&gt;Vergence-accommodation conflict&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ask ATP:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do you get started editing photos? (via Maxel Amador)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What&amp;#8217;s the point in performance cores if they&amp;#8217;re not used? (via &lt;a href="https://mstdn.social/@scottshuchart/112888444752471159"&gt;Scott Schuchart&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law"&gt;Amdahl&amp;#8217;s Law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: What is the right product mix for iPhone

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1suvBMMLh8"&gt;Max Tech&amp;#8217;s iPhone 17 naming wishcasting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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Submerged, the new iPad Mini, getting started with photo editing, and a weird new driver-assist mode.

609: You're the Oreo Cookie

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