The Stacking Benjamins Show
The Stacking Benjamins Show

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

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Named Best Personal Finance Podcast by Bankrate.com and Kiplinger — and the only podcast the Plutus Awards retired from competition after winning twice — The Stacking Benjamins Show is personal finance that doesn’t put you to sleep.Hosts Joe Saul-Sehy (former 16-year financial advisor, ex-WXYZ-TV “Money Man”) and Josh “OG” Bannerman, CFP (Certified Financial Planner, Bannerman Wealth) sit around the card table in Joe’s mom’s half-finished basement in Texarkana and talk money with the smartest guests in personal finance, investing, and behavioral economics. As Fast Company wrote, the show “strikes a great balance of fun and functional.”Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday: expert guests, real headlines, listener questions, and Doug’s trivia. Topics include investing, retirement planning, budgeting, real estate, behavioral finance, taxes, and financial independence — for anyone who wants to be smarter about money without being talked down to.Subscribe to The 201 — the free newsletter that goes deeper than the show — at stackingbenjamins.com/201

Recent Episodes

How Much Should You Really Save Without Hating Your Life? SB1846
MAY 25, 2026
How Much Should You Really Save Without Hating Your Life? SB1846
Everyone wants to know the magic savings number. Is it 10%? 15%? Half your paycheck while eating ketchup packets in the woods? In this Memorial Day basement hangout, Joe, OG, Doug, and Len Penzo cut through the personal finance nonsense and tackle the real question: How much should YOU actually save? Instead of guilt trips and impossible rules, the crew breaks down how real people build wealth while still enjoying life along the way. From automation tricks to lifestyle creep to using raises strategically, this episode is packed with practical ways to grow your savings without becoming financially miserable. Plus:Why most savings advice completely falls apart in real lifeThe easiest way to increase your savings rateHow automation quietly builds wealthWhy your income matters more than coupon clippingThe surprising power of “future you”Estate planning basics you absolutely should not ignoreWhy beneficiary forms matter more than your willDoug learns what “intestate” means… and thankfully it’s less gross than he thoughtWhether you’re just getting started or trying to level up your financial plan, this episode helps you stop chasing perfect numbers and start building momentum. Key TakeawaysWhy there’s no “perfect” savings rateHow to increase savings without wrecking your lifestyleThe psychological mistake that keeps people from savingWhy small automated habits beat big dramatic changesThe best places to find extra money fastHow raises can supercharge wealth buildingThe truth about lifestyle creepEstate planning basics everyone needsWhat happens if your beneficiaries are outdatedWhy trusts aren’t just for wealthy people  Resources Mentioned in This Episode Featured Tools, Guides & ResourcesThe Vault Budgeting App Simplify budgeting, subscriptions, spending, and automation. 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/vaultBenjamins After Dark (BAD) Groups Meet other Stackers in your area for accountability, networking, and money conversations. 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/BADStacking Benjamins Basics Guide Free guide covering financial basics, estate planning, tax planning, and more. 👉 stackingbenjamins.com/basicsguideLen Penzo’s Blog & Book Len’s financial writing and his book True Money Stories. 👉 lenpenzo.comRetirement Calculators The crew strongly recommends experimenting with retirement calculators to understand how compound growth changes your future savings needs.AI Tools for Financial Organization OG discusses using AI tools like Perplexity to:Review leasesAnalyze property tax appealsOrganize financial documentsBuild research prompts Articles, Topics & Concepts ReferencedFIRE Movement (Financial Independence Retire Early)Lifestyle CreepAutomation & Auto-Investing401(k) Auto-Increase StrategiesEstate PlanningBeneficiary AuditsTrusts vs. WillsProbate BasicsHealthcare DirectivesDurable Power of AttorneyTax-Smart Retirement Withdrawals See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Where Are You Drawing the Line? How Smart Spenders Decide What to Cut and What to Keep (SB1845)
MAY 22, 2026
Where Are You Drawing the Line? How Smart Spenders Decide What to Cut and What to Keep (SB1845)
Prices are up. Budgets are tighter. And people are making some surprising choices about what stays and what goes. The woman skipping the new laptop and the graduation dress is still booked for a Disney cruise, a Bruno Mars concert, and a trip to Lake Erie. It turns out inflation doesn't just squeeze your wallet -- it forces a conversation about what you actually value. Joe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into where people are drawing the line, why experiences outlast stuff in the happiness research, and what each of them refuses to give up no matter what. What You'll Walk Away WithWhy people cut the easy stuff first -- and why that strategy relieves anxiety without actually solving the budget problemThe research behind experiences vs. stuff: why the memory of a trip gets rosier over time while objects depreciate in more ways than oneDoc G's spending happiness continuum -- from stuff to experiences to becoming a better version of yourself, and why the last one costs the leastWhy OG's DoorDash experiment was a two out of ten in year-to-date success -- and why four people pulling the rudder in the other direction mattersThe "build from zero" budget reframe that feels more empowering than cutting from the top downOne roundtable member's rule that nothing is ever truly off the table when cash gets tight -- including the house and the private schoolWhat each panelist will never go cheap on -- and one answer involving prescription medications that lands differently than you'd expectThe expenses that are dead to each of them -- and where Joe, OG, Paula, and Doc G land on first class flights and DoorDashWhy the client who cut all Christmas spending had the best holiday season of their lifePapa John's quarterly earnings data that tells you exactly how inflation is changing behavior at the menu levelWhy This Matters Now If you're in your 40s and you've started quietly trimming things -- streaming services, delivery apps, clothing budgets -- but haven't touched the bigger stuff, this episode names what's actually happening. The question isn't whether to cut. It's whether the things you're cutting are the ones that matter least. That's a values conversation, not a math conversation, and this roundtable is one of the better ones the basement has had. From the Basement Joe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into a Wall Street Journal piece on how Americans are changing their spending habits -- and the conversation quickly becomes about what money is actually for. OG reports that his attempt to eliminate DoorDash from the family budget has been going poorly. Doc G went to Bali in coach. The year-long trivia competition takes a dramatic turn as OG's precise mathematical reasoning leads everyone to the wrong answer -- and Doc G wins by going lower. Johnny Carson's guest host strategy turns out to be the missing variable nobody accounted for. Resources MentionedWall Street Journal -- "Where Americans Are Drawing the Line on Price Increases" by Rachel Wolff; linked at stackingbenjamins.comAfford Anything podcast -- Paula Pant; Joe joins most Tuesdays for listener Q&AEarn and Invest podcast -- Doc G (Jordan Grumet); recent episode with Carrie Jorn Grimes on The Joy of MoneyStacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vaultStacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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How to Plan the Perfect Theme Park Trip Without Wasting Your Money or Your Day (SB1844)
MAY 20, 2026
How to Plan the Perfect Theme Park Trip Without Wasting Your Money or Your Day (SB1844)
Every family knows the feeling. You spend $1,000 to get everyone to the happiest place on Earth, and by 1:30 someone's crying, someone's sunburned, and somebody just paid $18 for a hotdog. Robert Niles from Theme Park Insider (the site that Robert jokes AI is pulling all its theme park data from) comes back to the basement to help you avoid that fate. This year he's also got strong opinions on which park is winning summer 2026, and it's not the one you'd expect. What You'll Walk Away WithWhy the biggest theme park mistake families make has nothing to do with the park -- and everything to do with who's in the crew going with youWhich park Robert says is winning summer 2026 -- including a brand-new attraction that combines rollercoaster, dark ride, and water ride into one experienceThe quick game: lightning lane passes, VIP tours, park hoppers, character breakfasts, fireworks packages, meal plans -- worth it, skip it, or depends?Why Tokyo DisneySea is boss-level theme parking -- and the specific 10-minute window that determines whether you get on the top rides or wait four hoursThe sleeper parks most families overlook -- including one with a water park included in the ticket price and another that Herschend hasn't bought yetHow to use the Theme Park Insider community to find the actual strategy for any park before you arrive -- written by real visitors, not AIWhy sit-down air-conditioned lunch in the middle of a hot park day might be the best $40 you spend all summerThe over-planning trap -- and why having a plan matters less than being willing to abandon itWhat a Netflix show taught CNBC about health insurance deductibles -- and why one in four Gen Z adults still doesn't know what a deductible actually isThe HSA trap hiding inside high-deductible health plans -- and why choosing the cheaper plan can end up costing you far moreWhy This Matters Now Summer is when families spend real money on experiences that either become great memories or expensive regrets. A little planning separates the two more than most people think -- and the same principle applies to health insurance. Both conversations in this episode are about making sure the money you spend on your family actually delivers what you paid for. From the Basement Robert Niles from Theme Park Insider joins Joe and OG to kick off summer 2026 -- and Joe finally confesses that going to Dollywood last year changed his life. The headline segment tackles a CNBC piece inspired by the Netflix show Beef, which turns into a genuinely useful conversation about deductibles, HSAs, max-out-of-pocket numbers, and when the high-deductible plan is actually the wrong choice. Doug arrives with Formula Rossa trivia and a strongly worded editorial about what counts as a complete meal. The back porch features perhaps the best parenting post the basement has ever produced. Resources MentionedTheme Park Insider -- themeparkinsider.com; reviews, trip planning guides, and community discussion boardsBeef on Netflix -- referenced for the deductible explainer segmentCNBC health insurance article by Annie Nova -- linked at stackingbenjamins.comStacking Benjamins Newsletter (The 201) -- stackingbenjamins.com/201Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vaultStacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basement See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Too Much of One Stock? How to Diversify Without Blowing Up Your Tax Bill (SB1843)
MAY 18, 2026
Too Much of One Stock? How to Diversify Without Blowing Up Your Tax Bill (SB1843)
You wake up, check your portfolio, and realize one stock has quietly become your entire retirement plan. Maybe it came from an employee stock purchase plan. Maybe Grandma left you a pile of Apple shares. Maybe you bought NVIDIA in 2012 because you liked the graphics card and forgot about it. However you got here, the problem is the same: one company now owns you. Joe and OG walk through exactly how to unwind it -- slowly, tax-efficiently, and without making the emotional decisions that cost people the most money. What You'll Walk Away WithThe four ways people end up with concentrated stock -- and which one has the easiest fix that most people skip entirelyWhy inheriting stock is actually the best time to diversify -- and the step-up in basis rule that eliminates most of the tax billThe conveyor belt strategy for employee stock purchase plans that keeps you collecting the discount without piling up company riskWhy "I'll just grow around it" almost never works -- and the math behind why your stock tends to outpace your ability to diversify around itThe question Joe asked every client in this situation: which outcome would upset you least -- and why that's the right starting pointRSUs as a paycheck, not a loyalty pledge -- and the mental reframe that makes it easier to sellWhat the Merck/Vioxx story teaches about why the tax bill is almost never the real reason to hold concentrated stockWhen a slow systematic sell makes sense versus ripping the Band-Aid -- and how to decide which one you can actually live withThe estate planning mistake that turns a free inheritance into a massive capital gains bill -- and why the $1 trick backfires every timeThe insurance planning framework OG and Anna walk through: life, disability, long-term care, and property/casualty -- including the umbrella policy most people skipWhy This Matters Now If you've spent years building something -- through your career, through conviction, through an inheritance -- the last thing you want is to lose it all because one company had a bad quarter. The diversification conversation feels complicated, but the framework is simpler than most people think. The hard part isn't knowing what to do. It's making the decision when the stock is moving and your emotions are loud. From the Basement Joe and OG dig into concentrated stock risk -- how people get there, what it actually costs them, and the five strategies for getting out without making it worse. OG and Anna return for episode two of their financial basics series with a full insurance planning walkthrough -- including the disability insurance gap most people don't know they have. Doug arrives with Mount St. Helens trivia and a dryer situation that may or may not involve auto parts. Stacker Molly's car repair HSA story gets a full investigation and a satisfying resolution. Resources MentionedStacking Benjamins Basics Guide -- season one and season two workbooks free at stackingbenjamins.com/basicsguideStacking Benjamins Newsletter (The 201) -- stackingbenjamins.com/201Stacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vaultStacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basementYahoo Finance / CNBC insider trading tracker -- referenced for monitoring executive stock sales See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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The Habits That Actually Make Millionaires (SB1842)
MAY 15, 2026
The Habits That Actually Make Millionaires (SB1842)
What actually separates people who build lasting wealth from everyone else? Not the tips. Not the apps. The habits. Joe put the question to a panel of financial planners, coaches, and bloggers -- and turned it into a game. Seven habits, three rounds, two points up for grabs. Monica Scudieri, who paid off $257,000 in debt and reached financial independence in 10 years, joined OG and Jesse Cramer to find out how well the conventional wisdom matches what actually works. What You'll Walk Away WithThe seven millionaire habits Kiplinger identified -- and which ones the panel nailed, missed, and argued aboutWhy continuously educating yourself about money remains one of the highest-leverage habits at any income levelThe networking truth wealthy people understand that most people don't -- and why "who not how" changes everything about how you approach your career and financesMonica's story: how she turned a divorce, $257,000 in debt, and three rounds of unemployment into financial independence in a decadeWhy living below your means isn't about deprivation -- it's about creating the margin that makes every other habit possibleThe pay yourself first argument that actually holds up when your budget is genuinely tightWhy OG thinks waking up early is the worst advice in personal finance -- and what he thinks actually matters insteadThe book recommendations that shaped each panelist's financial philosophy -- including a deep dive on why passive investing still winsWhy diversifying your income streams landed on the millionaire habits list -- and what that looks like in practiceThe complete list of seven habits, revealed at the end -- including the two the panel never guessedWhy This Matters Now Millionaire habits get discussed constantly and followed inconsistently. The gap isn't usually knowledge -- it's the unsexy reality that these habits have to run in the background for years before the results become visible. This roundtable is worth listening to not because the list is surprising, but because the people talking about it have actually lived it. From the Basement Joe, OG, Jesse Cramer, and Monica Scudieri from Grab Your Slice play two rounds of the millionaire habits game while the year-long trivia competition quietly shifts -- Monica guesses closest on a 1940 McDonald's complete meal price and earns Paula Pant's first point in a while. OG extends his lead. Jesse goes 0 for the day and seems fine about it. Doug intervenes on the trivia question to add a milkshake, which turns out to be decisive. Resources MentionedGrab Your Slice of Financial Independence by Monica Scudieri -- available wherever books are soldMonica Scudieri financial coaching -- schedule a free 30-minute call at grabyourslice.comPersonal Finance for Long-Term Investors -- Jesse Cramer's podcast, wherever you listen; upcoming two-part series on the 14 risks retirees faceAutomatic Wealth by Michael Masterson -- recommended by Monica as her foundational bookA Random Walk Down Wall Street by Burton Malkiel -- recommended by JesseThe War of Art by Steven Pressfield and Essentialism by Greg McKeown -- recommended by OGThe Truth About Money by Ric Edelman -- recommended by JoeNetworking With the Affluent by Dr. Thomas Stanley -- referenced in discussionStacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vaultStacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basementStacking Benjamins "Benjamins After Dark" Meetups -- stackingbenjamins.com/BAD See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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60 MIN