In this powerful conversation, Peyton sits down with his longtime mentor and friend, Larry Walkemeyer, to unpack why disciple-making must come before church multiplication, and why so many movements stall when they skip that step.Drawing from themes in Discipology and Larry’s forthcoming book The Making of a Multiplier, this episode explores the deep connection between time, teaching, and tactics — the three rhythms of Jesus’ disciple-making strategy that ultimately led to explosive Kingdom impact.Larry shares:Why the priesthood of all believers is the theological foundation of mobilizationHow relational disciple-making fuels true multiplicationA powerful personal vision that reshaped his ministry philosophyWhy you can’t teach multiplication into existence The difference between a “lake mentality” and a “river mentality” churchYou’ll also hear stories of everyday believers who became disciple-makers simply because someone walked closely with them long enough for the fire to catch.If you’re passionate about church planting, leadership development, or seeing movements multiply, this episode will challenge you to slow down, go deep, and mobilize before you multiply.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.