All In The Mind
All In The Mind

All In The Mind

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All In The Mind is ABC RN's weekly podcast looking into the mental universe, the mind, brain and behaviour — everything from addiction to artificial intelligence.

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Can 'normalisation of deviance' help to explain a catastrophe?
FEB 14, 2026
Can 'normalisation of deviance' help to explain a catastrophe?
40 years ago, NASA experienced one of its most devastating disasters. The Challenger space shuttle disintegrated just 73 seconds after launch, killing all seven crew members. How had this happened? And did the culture of NASA have anything to do with it? In this episode, we dig into a concept called 'normalisation of deviance', which has been touted as an explanation for this incident, as well as the Costa Concordia cruise ship disaster and a clinical drug trial that left six people in intensive care. So what is 'normalisation of deviance'? How does it happen? And given its potential for harm, is there anything we can do to prevent it? If you enjoyed this episode, check out the latest season of Science Friction, The Challenger Disaster (which is also produced by our senior producer James Bullen!) Guests: Dr Nejc Sedlar Lecturer, University of Aberdeen Professor Sidney Dekker Professor, Griffith University Credits: Presenter: Sana Qadar Senior producer: James Bullen Additional reporting/production: Fiona Pepper Producer: Rose Kerr Sound engineer: Roi Huberman You can catch up on more episodes of the All in the Mind podcast with journalist and presenter Sana Qadar, exploring the psychology of topics like stress, memory, communication and relationships on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts. More information: A qualitative systematic review on the application of the normalization of deviance phenomenon within high-risk industries. Sidney Dekker — Drift into Failure. Challenger: the disaster five people saw coming. The Challenger Legacy — Science Friction. Has NASA learned anything from the Challenger disaster? When to trust your gut instinct, and when to ignore it A deviation from standard design? Clinical trials, research ethics committees, and the regulatory co-construction of organizational deviance
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The paradox of petty problems: Why small annoyances can snowball
FEB 7, 2026
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29 MIN
Grief and guilt: losing a loved one to suicide
JAN 31, 2026
Grief and guilt: losing a loved one to suicide
When Blake's dad died by suicide, it came as a complete shock. Overwhelming grief, combined with confusion and guilt — it uprooted his life. The loss made him rethink his own mental health, and eventually, channel that into the community — fundraising and taking on three world records. Today, we're talking about suicide bereavement; how it can affect family and friends, its long lasting impacts on mental health, and how to support someone going through the experience. It can be really tricky to talk about suicide, so how do you tackle talking to kids about this kind of loss? Also, why are rates of suicide not going down, despite millions spent on prevention? And why do some people experience something called post-traumatic growth while others don't? This episode discusses suicide, grief and mental illness in depth. Please take care while listening. Guests: Blake Johnston Former pro surfer Surf Coach Mental Health advocate Author, Swellbeing Associate Professor Karl Andriessen Principal Research Fellow, Centre for Mental Health and Community Wellbeing Melbourne School of Population and Global Health University of Melbourne Tanja Hirvonen Clinical psychologist Chief Executive Officer, Thirrili Board Director, Australian Indigenous Psychologists Association Board Director, Black Dog Institute Credits: Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar Producer: Rose Kerr Senior producer: James Bullen Sound engineer: Harvey O'Sullivan Thanks to freesound.org users tim.kahn and juskiddink Support and resources: Lifeline 13 11 14 Thirrili 1800 805 801 13 YARN 13 92 76 Beyond Blue  1300 22 4636 StandBy Support 1300 727 247 Roses in the ocean More information: Coping With A Parent's Suicide Alarming rise in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander suicide rates A better way: suicide prevention in First Nations communities You can catch up on more episodes of the All in the Mind podcast with journalist and presenter Sana Qadar, exploring the psychology of topics like stress, memory, communication and relationships on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.
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