<p>Acclaimed US journalists and podcast collaborators with The Atlantic Hanna Rosin and Lauren Ober join David Marr in-studio to discuss the MAGA women who love Trump, the state of the media in post-insurrection America, and the importance of complex human storytelling in journalism. </p><ul><li>Guests: Hanna Rosin and Lauren Ober, co-hosts of the podcast <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/we-live-here-now/">We Live Here Now</a>. Hanna is also Senior Editor at the Atlantic and host of <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/radio-atlantic/">Radio Atlantic </a></li><li>Producer: Catherine Zengerer</li></ul><p>*This show originally aired on 13 August 2025</p>