The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston
The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston

The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston

Dr. David M. Livingston

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The Space Show® focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce and space tourism, as well as other related subjects of interest to us all. doctorspace.substack.com

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The Space Show Presents Space Architecture and Human Space Living with Melody Yashar
JAN 12, 2026
The Space Show Presents Space Architecture and Human Space Living with Melody Yashar
<p><strong>The Space Show Presents Melodie Yashar, Friday, 1-9-26</strong></p><p><strong>Quick summary</strong></p><p>Our discussion started with a focus on Melodie’s transition from architectural engineering to space architecture, particularly her work on 3D printing concepts for Mars habitats and her journey through various organizations including NASA and Icon. The discussion covered technical challenges and opportunities in space colonization, including the development of lunar and Martian habitats, autonomous systems, and robotic construction capabilities. The panel explored the broader implications of space exploration, including technological benefits for Earth industries and the importance of long-term projects in advancing space settlement goals.</p><p><strong>Detailed Summary</strong></p><p>David and Melodie discussed Melodie’s transition from architectural engineering to space architecture, focusing on her work with 3D printing concepts for Mars habitats. Melodie explained that her interest in space architecture was sparked by the unique challenges and opportunities it presents, particularly in creating sustainable and habitable environments on other planets. She highlighted the importance of collaboration with engineers and researchers to develop innovative solutions for space habitation. Our Wisdom Team also touched on the potential for future publications and exhibitions related to Melodie’s ongoing research in space architecture.</p><p>Melodie discussed the evolution of space architecture, highlighting how commercial development in low Earth orbit has increased interest in creating hospitality-focused spaces for tourists and citizen astronauts. She shared her journey into space architecture, including her involvement in a NASA Centennial Challenge for a 3D printed habitat on Mars and subsequent work with NASA and private aerospace companies. Melodie also described her role at NASA Ames, where she researched the relationship between astronauts and autonomous systems, and her transition to Icon, where she helped commercialize large-scale additive manufacturing for housing and lunar applications.</p><p>Our guest discussed her background in spatial planning and environmental design, highlighting the challenges in developing 3D printed structures for space habitats. She explained that while there is research on spatial planning, many questions remain about additively manufactured structures, particularly for large-scale, pressurized habitats. Melodie also described a recent project for a Mars habitat concept, expected to be completed by 2075-2080, and emphasized the importance of developing technologies that can integrate with both hard shell structures and soft goods for both lunar and Martian missions.</p><p>Melodie and David talked about the feasibility of space colonization, particularly focusing on Mars and the moon. Melodie expressed skepticism about Elon Musk’s timeline for sending humans to Mars, citing numerous unknowns and challenges. She emphasized the importance of publishing and sharing information to ensure the project’s continuity beyond the current team. Melodie also mentioned her research on robot-to-robot interaction for autonomous operations in space, highlighting the need for further development in this area.</p><p>The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed the challenges and potential of 3D printing habitats on the Moon and Mars, focusing on material properties and testing protocols. Melodie highlighted the need for Mars sample return data to understand regolith properties, while Haym noted that lunar soil testing on Earth could streamline processes but would still face challenges like electrostatic charging on the Moon. The conversation touched on AI’s role in anticipating anomalies in 3D printed structures and the importance of sending small-scale tests to the Moon before launching a habitat-scale program. Melodie suggested that the technologies are ready for deployment, but a timeline for lunar construction was not explicitly stated.</p><p>Our guest talked about plans for lunar construction, predicting infrastructure development within the next 5-10 years, and emphasized the need for multiple redundant construction systems, including hard shell structures and additively manufactured components. She expressed skepticism about the viability of orbital hotels in the near term, noting that sustained human presence on the Moon would require significant infrastructure development and resource processing capabilities. Melodie acknowledged being in contact with commercial space station companies but highlighted the challenges of transferring technology from low Earth orbit to lunar surface operations, including the need for regolith processing and resource utilization.</p><p>Melodie discussed her research on 3D printing with Martian regolith, explaining that while her previous work at Icon assumed no Earth-bound materials, she is now exploring binders and additives for Mars construction, including geopolymers and sulfur concrete. She clarified that her team did not use Martian soil simulants but instead relied on existing research from rover data to analyze regolith composition for a hypothetical 11-meter diameter habitat. When asked about other research using Martian simulants, Melodie confirmed their existence but noted that current simulants may not accurately represent all Martian regions of interest for settlement.</p><p>The group discussed the challenges and opportunities in space exploration, particularly focusing on commercial versus government projects. Melodie highlighted the rapid development in the commercial sector and expressed optimism about future progress in in-space construction and lunar habitats. Haym Benaroya emphasized the value of contributing to a long-term project, even if specific concepts may not be realized during one’s career. David posed a hypothetical question about using an unlimited budget to expedite work, with Melodie suggesting that increased funding could accelerate testing and development of large-scale additive manufacturing and pressurized habitats. The conversation concluded with a brief discussion about lava tube habitats, though no specific work on this topic by Melodie’s team was mentioned.</p><p>The lava tube topic continued with an examination of the feasibility of living in lava tubes for deep space radiation protection, noting that while this is viable, traditional construction methods and pressurization remain challenges. They explored the difficulties of deploying construction equipment in lava tubes and considered large-scale space elevators as potential solutions. David emphasized the significant gap between current reality and the vision of space settlement, while Haym Benaroya highlighted the additional complexity of biology in space. Melodie shared her research on robotic construction in space, discussing the shift from single-task robots to humanoid robotics, though she expressed skepticism about their effectiveness in space environments due to radiation and regolith challenges.</p><p>David and Haym Benaroya discussed the current limitations of robotics in construction, particularly on the Moon and Mars. They highlighted that while robots can perform simple tasks in controlled environments like manufacturing plants, replicating complex human movements for construction is still far from being achieved. David referenced a recent 60 Minutes segment on Boston Dynamics’ Atlas robot, which struggled with basic movements like a jumping jack, emphasizing the technological challenges ahead. Haym added that reliability and maintainability are crucial for space missions, noting that even advanced robots require constant maintenance and support systems. They concluded that while automation in space construction is a long-term goal, significant progress and adaptation of current technology are necessary before it becomes feasible.</p><p>The panel discussed the value and feasibility of space exploration, with Melodie emphasizing that space technology benefits multiple industries on Earth, though the benefits may take decades to manifest. Haym Benaroya highlighted space as a positive mission attracting bright students and fostering economic growth through dual-use development. The group explored the potential for naming lunar or Martian structures after key figures, though Melodie noted differences in procurement mechanisms for space versus terrestrial architecture. John Jossy invited Melodie to speak at the National Space Society’s ISDC conference in June, and the panel discussed the formation and goals of Melodie’s company, Anara, which focuses on 3D printing and robotic construction in space. The program concluded with my continuing to wanting to see Yashar Towers and Benaroya Park on the Moon!</p><p><em>Special thanks to our sponsors:</em><a target="_blank" href="https://aiaa.org/">American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://helixspace.eu/">Helix Space in Luxembourg</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.celestis.com/">Celestis Memorial Spaceflights</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://astrox.com/">Astrox Corporation</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://mae.rutgers.edu/haym-benaroya">Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://spacesettlementprogress.com/">The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.project-atlantis.com/">The Atlantis Project</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlessentertainment.com">Artless Entertainment</a></p><p>Our <strong>Toll Free Line</strong> for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)</p><p>For <strong>real time program participation</strong>, email Dr. Space at: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for instructions and access.</p><p><strong><em>The Space Show</em></strong> is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:</p><p><strong>To donate with Zelle, use the email address: </strong><a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:</p><p>One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135</p><p><strong>Upcoming Programs:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/13-jan-2026/broadcast-448t-zoom-guy-schumann"><strong>Broadcast 448t ZOOM Guy Schumann | Tuesday 13 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/guy-schumann"><strong>Guy Schumann</strong></a></p><p><strong>Our guest is the CEO of RSS-Hydro in Luxembourg. The company helps assess and mitigate the risks of natural extremes, safeguarding both your communities and assets with resilience and security from space assets.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/14-jan-2026/broadcast-4487-hotel-mars-tbd"><strong>Broadcast 4487: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 14 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/john-batchelor"><strong>John Batchelor</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-david-livingston"><strong>Dr. David Livingston</strong></a></p><p><strong>Hotel Mars TBD</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/16-jan-2026/broadcast-4488-zoom-dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Broadcast 4488 Zoom, DR. ARMEN PAPAZIAN | Friday 16 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Dr. Armen Papazian</strong></a></p><p><strong>Armen presents his latest space economics paper which is posted on The Space Show blog for this program.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/18-jan-2026/broadcast-4489-zoom-dan-adamo"><strong>Broadcast 4489 Zoom Dan Adamo | Sunday 18 Jan 2026 1200PM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dan-adamo"><strong>Dan Adamo</strong></a></p><p><strong>Zoom: Dan discusses the special lunar orbit being used for the Artemis program</strong></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at <a href="https://doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe</a>
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73 MIN
The Space Show Presents Hotel Mars With Anatoly Zak For Important Russian Space History
JAN 12, 2026
The Space Show Presents Hotel Mars With Anatoly Zak For Important Russian Space History
<p>Anatoly Zak, Hotel Mars, Jan. 7 Weds:</p><p>The summary below is provided by John Batchelor. You can see this program’s video on John’s Substack page.</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://open.substack.com/users/21952576-dr-david-m-livingston?utm_source=mentions">Dr. David M. Livingston</a>, doctor of space himself, is here. He is my colleague and co-host and friend and copilot, as we’re getting not only into time and space, but we’re going back to 1972 to go forward to the moon.</p><p>We welcome Anatoly Zak, who keeps the very helpful <a target="_blank" href="http://russianspaceweb.com/">RussianSpaceWeb.com</a>, a subscription site. I heartily recommend it for those of you who lived through the first moon rays during the Cold War of the 20th century.</p><p>Now we’re witnessing a new moon race, this time with a new player on the field: the Chinese space program.</p><p>However, in 1972, America had won the moon race. In 1969, there were subsequent moon ventures by the Russians and the Americans. We’re talking detente, and that would lead to a joint space mission in Earth orbit. But as of that point, the Russians and Roscosmos had ambition to get to the moon—and they <em>still</em> have ambition to get to the moon.</p><p>And it’s totally wonderful to travel to 1972, when I was a much younger fellow and didn’t see or didn’t know about all these developments in Russia. What was L3m?</p><p></p><p><em>Special thanks to our sponsors:</em><a target="_blank" href="https://aiaa.org/">American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://helixspace.eu/">Helix Space in Luxembourg</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.celestis.com/">Celestis Memorial Spaceflights</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://astrox.com/">Astrox Corporation</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://mae.rutgers.edu/haym-benaroya">Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://spacesettlementprogress.com/">The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.project-atlantis.com/">The Atlantis Project</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlessentertainment.com">Artless Entertainment</a></p><p>Our <strong>Toll Free Line</strong> for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)</p><p>For <strong>real time program participation</strong>, email Dr. Space at: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for instructions and access.</p><p><strong><em>The Space Show</em></strong> is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:</p><p><strong>To donate with Zelle, use the email address: </strong><a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:</p><p>One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135</p><p><strong>Upcoming Programs:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/13-jan-2026/broadcast-448t-zoom-guy-schumann"><strong>Broadcast 448t ZOOM Guy Schumann | Tuesday 13 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/guy-schumann"><strong>Guy Schumann</strong></a></p><p><strong>Our guest is the CEO of RSS-Hydro in Luxembourg. The company helps assess and mitigate the risks of natural extremes, safeguarding both your communities and assets with resilience and security from space assets.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/14-jan-2026/broadcast-4487-hotel-mars-tbd"><strong>Broadcast 4487: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 14 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/john-batchelor"><strong>John Batchelor</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-david-livingston"><strong>Dr. David Livingston</strong></a></p><p><strong>Hotel Mars TBD</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/16-jan-2026/broadcast-4488-zoom-dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Broadcast 4488 Zoom, DR. ARMEN PAPAZIAN | Friday 16 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Dr. Armen Papazian</strong></a></p><p><strong>Armen presents his latest space economics paper which is posted on The Space Show blog for this program.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/18-jan-2026/broadcast-4489-zoom-dan-adamo"><strong>Broadcast 4489 Zoom Dan Adamo | Sunday 18 Jan 2026 1200PM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dan-adamo"><strong>Dan Adamo</strong></a></p><p><strong>Zoom: Dan discusses the special lunar orbit being used for the Artemis program</strong></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at <a href="https://doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe</a>
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18 MIN
The Space Show Presents Open Lines For Jan. 4, 2026
JAN 11, 2026
The Space Show Presents Open Lines For Jan. 4, 2026
<p><strong>Open Lines Discussion, Sunday, Jan. 4, 2026</strong></p><p><strong>Quick Summary</strong></p><p>Our program focused on space industry developments and future missions, including discussions about Artemis III, SpaceX’s priorities, and various private sector lunar missions planned for 2026. The group explored space technology advancements, investment trends, and launch cost reduction possibilities, while also addressing challenges in pharmaceutical pricing and international space cooperation. The conversation concluded with updates on space missions and budget concerns for 2026, as well as discussions about UAP evidence and plans to expand the show’s reach through streaming and social media promotion.</p><p>Early on we discussed space solar power and its potential applications, including AI data centers in space. Bill mentioned his connection to Virtus Solus, a space-based solar power company, and shared their recent announcement of a 97% efficiency rate for their rectenna. The conversation then shifted to Artemis III, with David expressing concern about delays hindering progress towards 2028 goals. Joseph provided an update on Artemis III hardware development, noting that while the SLS is far along in integration, both the Blue lander and Starship are still in early stages. The group also discussed the challenges and requirements for Starship refueling tests, with Joe expressing doubt about meeting timelines due to multiple technical hurdles.</p><p>Our Wisdom Team discussed the Artemis program’s goal of returning Americans to the moon by 2028, as outlined in a recent executive order. They debated the feasibility of meeting this timeline, considering the technical limitations of SpaceX’s launch frequency and the need for reliability improvements. The conversation touched on the potential for multiple launch platforms and the possibility of using Starship for refueling missions. David raised concerns about the need for a decision on whether to stick with the current program or make changes, while Bill and others expressed worries about the timeline and the pressure on NASA management to meet it. We also discussed the executive order’s mention of establishing initial elements of a permanent lunar outpost by 2030 and the potential for using nuclear reactors on the moon.</p><p>SpaceX’s priorities were discussed by Doug noting that while Mars is SpaceX’s top priority, lunar development is a secondary focus. Joseph highlighted that once Starship achieves reusability, it could significantly increase launch capacity to 20,000 tons annually, with a target launch for in-orbit refueling and docking by Q3 or Q4 2023. The discussion also covered multiple private sector lunar missions planned for 2026, including Blue Origin’s Mark 1 lander carrying the Viper rover, and the potential for commercial satellite communications to provide cellular service in underserved regions.</p><p>The Wisdom Team talked about satellite positioning systems, particularly in Japan, where 4 out of 7 satellites must be visible over Japan at any given moment for non-GPS positioning. They explored potential business opportunities in space, including semiconductor manufacturing, medical products, and solar panels, though Joe noted that space manufacturing capabilities are not yet advanced enough to support these ideas. John Jossy shared that venture capital is primarily flowing to low Earth orbit companies, with recent large rases by companies like Stoke Space ($510 million) and Impulse Space ($300 million), while lunar ventures receive less attention.</p><p>Later we discussed the state of space technology and investment, with Joe noting that venture capital investment in space has increased significantly, leading to companies raising hundreds of millions of dollars. They debated the potential for launch cost reductions, with Joseph suggesting that a factor of three reduction could be possible, though not necessarily reaching the extremely low costs Elon Musk has proposed for Starship. The conversation touched on the separate tracks of government programs like Artemis and commercial space development, with Bill and Joseph agreeing that these developments are largely independent. David raised questions about the incentives for launch companies to significantly reduce costs, given the current profitability of launches, and the group discussed the potential for new low-cost launchers, including a Chinese Starship-like vehicle, though its market impact in the West remained uncertain.</p><p>The team talked about the challenges faced by pharmaceutical companies due to pressure to lower drug prices, contrasting this with the lack of similar pressure on commercial launch services. They also talked about recent repairs to the ISS, where Russian cosmonauts successfully sealed leaks using a patented sealing agent. The conversation concluded with a discussion about international space cooperation, particularly highlighting India’s growing space program and its potential for future partnerships with Western countries.</p><p>In addition, we discussed several space industry developments, including SpaceX’s potential Mars mission and the status of various space vehicles. John Jossy shared information about SpaceX’s planned Mars mission, while the group expressed uncertainty about the future of Boeing’s capsule and Dream Chaser. They also discussed the transition of Tory Bruno from ULA to Blue Origin, and the potential implications for ULA’s future. Bill provided an update on the Starliner program, noting that the next flight would be cargo-only in April, with crewed missions not expected until late 2026 or early 2027.</p><p>As we were nearing the end of the program, various space missions and budget concerns for 2026 were mentioned. They talked about a private Rocket Lab mission to Venus in collaboration with MIT, scheduled for summer 2026. Bill provided updates on U.S. Venus missions, noting that the Senate version of the budget would preserve both Venus missions, while the House version funds the Mars sample return. The group also discussed the status of the NASA SBIR program, which has not been reauthorized for 2026, though ongoing projects from prior awards can continue. David expressed frustration about the lack of credible evidence regarding UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) claims, questioning why the topic remains so mysterious and unsubstantiated.</p><p>The group discussed the challenges and secrecy surrounding UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) evidence and the potential for public disclosure, with John Hunt suggesting that classified information might be harder to prove than assumed. David expressed skepticism about the truthfulness of statements and emphasized the need for tangible evidence to gain public trust. The conversation also touched on the popularity of UFO topics in media, with Joseph suggesting that increased discussion of UAPs could boost listener numbers. The conversation ended with plans to explore options for streaming Zoom programs on YouTube and promoting the show on social media to reach a broader audience.</p><p><em>Special thanks to our sponsors:</em><a target="_blank" href="https://aiaa.org/">American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://helixspace.eu/">Helix Space in Luxembourg</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.celestis.com/">Celestis Memorial Spaceflights</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://astrox.com/">Astrox Corporation</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://mae.rutgers.edu/haym-benaroya">Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://spacesettlementprogress.com/">The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.project-atlantis.com/">The Atlantis Project</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlessentertainment.com">Artless Entertainment</a></p><p>Our <strong>Toll Free Line</strong> for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)</p><p>For <strong>real time program participation</strong>, email Dr. Space at: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for instructions and access.</p><p><strong><em>The Space Show</em></strong> is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:</p><p><strong>To donate with Zelle, use the email address: </strong><a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:</p><p>One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135</p><p><strong>Upcoming Programs:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/13-jan-2026/broadcast-448t-zoom-guy-schumann"><strong>Broadcast 448t ZOOM Guy Schumann | Tuesday 13 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/guy-schumann"><strong>Guy Schumann</strong></a></p><p><strong>Our guest is the CEO of RSS-Hydro in Luxembourg. The company helps assess and mitigate the risks of natural extremes, safeguarding both your communities and assets with resilience and security from space assets.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/14-jan-2026/broadcast-4487-hotel-mars-tbd"><strong>Broadcast 4487: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 14 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/john-batchelor"><strong>John Batchelor</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-david-livingston"><strong>Dr. David Livingston</strong></a></p><p><strong>Hotel Mars TBD</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/16-jan-2026/broadcast-4488-zoom-dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Broadcast 4488 Zoom, DR. ARMEN PAPAZIAN | Friday 16 Jan 2026 930AM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-armen-papazian"><strong>Dr. Armen Papazian</strong></a></p><p><strong>Armen presents his latest space economics paper which is posted on The Space Show blog for this program.</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/18-jan-2026/broadcast-4489-zoom-dan-adamo"><strong>Broadcast 4489 Zoom Dan Adamo | Sunday 18 Jan 2026 1200PM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dan-adamo"><strong>Dan Adamo</strong></a></p><p><strong>Zoom: Dan discusses the special lunar orbit being used for the Artemis program</strong></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at <a href="https://doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe</a>
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The Space Show Presents Jatan Mehta On The Indian Space Program
JAN 4, 2026
The Space Show Presents Jatan Mehta On The Indian Space Program
<p>The Space Show Presents JATAN MEHTA, Friday, Jan. 2, 2026</p><p>Quick Summary:</p><p>Our conversation with our guest from India focused heavily on India’s space program, including its current capabilities, future plans, and comparisons with other countries’ space programs, particularly regarding lunar exploration and human spaceflight initiatives. The conversation ended with discussions about potential new content initiatives and program updates, including plans for future space coverage and the need for financial support to maintain operations.</p><p>Detailed Summary:</p><p>I welcomed Jatan to the meeting and also AJ who would act as co-host for today’s one hour program. We began with casual conversation about travel and the history of Mumbai’s name change from Bombay, which was explained as part of a nationwide effort to revert to indigenous names. Bill joined the call and mentioned not receiving Jatan’s newsletter for a few weeks, which Jatan confirmed was being sent but might be ending up in spam folders. David introduced plans to discuss Jatan’s newsletter and work, as well as questions about the Indian space program.</p><p>Jatan Mehta, a space writer and journalist, discussed his work covering moon missions and India’s space activities. He explained the origins and goals of his newsletter Moon Monday, which archives moon mission developments, and his Indian Space newsletter, which provides a holistic view of India’s space activities. Jatan also mentioned his poetry on space exploration, which he recently published to celebrate milestones in his career.</p><p>Jatan explained his focus on the Moon rather than Mars, citing existing extensive coverage of Mars and his goal to provide unique value through his independent writing. He discussed his passive approach to educational outreach, including speaking to students across various age groups in India about space exploration. Jatan also shared his experience writing poetry sporadically and expressed his inability to teach poetry due to lack of formal training. David, on behalf of John Jossy who was not with us today, inquired about India’s space program, asking if Jatan believed it would be driven primarily by the private sector or government.</p><p>Jatan explained that while the private sector in India’s space industry is growing, ISRO will remain the dominant player for the foreseeable future, similar to NASA’s role in the US space program. He noted that the 2023 National Space Policy emphasizes ISRO’s role in cutting-edge R&D for space exploration, while private players focus on production. Regarding India’s human spaceflight program, Jatan reported that while the original 2025 target was missed, the program is making progress with the LVM3 launch vehicle now human-rated, and three uncrewed tests are planned before human missions begin, with a target launch date of late 2027.</p><p>The discussion focused on India’s space program, particularly the Gagan Yan (Sky Craft) program for astronauts, where Jatan explained that the initial capsule will carry two Gaganyatris (sky-farers) for the first few missions, with plans to expand to three astronauts later. Jatan clarified that while Gagan Yan refers to spacecraft, the upcoming space station will be called The Bharatiya Antariksh Station(BAS). When asked about India’s progress compared to China, Jatan acknowledged that China has surpassed both India and the US in recent moon missions, though India’s program remains significant with plans for a space station by 2035.</p><p>Jatan mentioned that India’s space program, noting that while India and China were neck and neck in space capabilities in the 1990s and early 2000s, China has since surpassed both India and the US in certain areas due to a larger budget. He explained that India’s space budget of approximately $1.5 billion USD over the past five years is less than a tenth of NASA’s budget, limiting its ability to catch up in all areas. However, Jatan emphasized that India is prioritizing certain key areas, such as the Moon, with plans for a sample return mission in 2028. He also highlighted the importance of political support and policy excitement in driving progress in India’s space program.</p><p>India’s space program aims to achieve several key milestones over the next 5-10 years, including the Chandrayaan 4 and 5 missions, collaboration with Japan for a lunar rover, and the development of a human spaceflight program with a space station module by the end of the decade. The country is also working on upgrading its LVM3 rocket to a semi-cryogenic engine and developing the Next Generation Launch Vehicle (NGLV) for heavy-lift capabilities by 2032-2034. Long-term goals include expanding India’s regional NAVIC navigation constellation, conducting a Venus orbiter mission in 2028, and sending an Indian astronaut to the moon by 2040.</p><p>The discussion focused on India’s space program and its development of reusable rockets. Jatan explained that while India has received some technology assistance from Russia, it doesn’t have the same level of partnership as China’s with Russia. He noted that India’s current rockets are not designed for reusability, but the upcoming NGLV rocket will have a reusable booster stage. The group discussed India’s decision not to pursue a super-heavy lift rocket, instead opting to develop a heavy upper stage that can be launched multiple times and docked in orbit. Jatan emphasized that while reusable rockets would be beneficial, India’s focus has been on addressing a backlog of existing missions and developing new launch capabilities.</p><p>Jatan discussed his top lunar coverage stories from 2025, highlighting three key pieces: covering lunar sample science updates from China’s Chang’e 5 and 6 missions, his year-end summary on Moon Monday that reviewed both successes and failures in lunar exploration, and an analysis piece on the current orbital capabilities of various countries, particularly focusing on the US’s lack of modern lunar orbiters and the importance of understanding lunar water ice for future human missions.</p><p>Jatan explained that Indian space mission budgets are allocated on a year-by-year basis, unlike NASA’s multi-year planning, and described how infrastructure costs are incorporated into mission budgets differently between the two countries. He outlined his plans for 2026, including covering moon missions weekly, publishing additional space-related booklets, and tracking developments in India’s Gaganyaan program and semi-cryogenic engine upgrade for LVM3. Jatan emphasized his commitment to keeping his space coverage and publications free to access through sponsorships and expressed excitement about upcoming missions including Chang’e 7 and Intuitive Machines’ third lunar landing mission.</p><p>This part of the program primarily focused on a discussion about potentially establishing a “Mars Tuesday” to complement “Moon Monday,” though Jatan noted this would be more feasible in the future, possibly during the Moon-to-Mars transition. Jatan shared his background in astrophysics and his shift to space communication, emphasizing his interest in bridging the gap between researchers and the public. David made announcements about upcoming programs, guest suggestions, and the need for donations to support the space show’s operations, while also inviting major donors to join the advisory board. The conversation ended with plans for Ajay to share updates about his talks in India on the next Sunday’s show.</p><p><em>Special thanks to our sponsors:</em> <a target="_blank" href="https://aiaa.org/">American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://helixspace.eu/">Helix Space in Luxembourg</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.celestis.com/">Celestis Memorial Spaceflights</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://astrox.com/">Astrox Corporation</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://mae.rutgers.edu/haym-benaroya">Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://spacesettlementprogress.com/">The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.project-atlantis.com/">The Atlantis Project</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlessentertainment.com">Artless Entertainment</a></p><p>Our <strong>Toll Free Line</strong> for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)</p><p>For <strong>real time program participation</strong>, email Dr. Space at: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for instructions and access.</p><p><strong><em>The Space Show</em></strong> is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:</p><p><strong>To donate with Zelle, use the email address: </strong><a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:</p><p>One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135</p><p><strong>Upcoming Programs:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/04-jan-2026/broadcast-4482-zoom-open-lines-kick-2026"><strong>Broadcast 4482: Zoom: Open Lines to kick of 2026 | Sunday 04 Jan 2026 1200PM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-david-livingston"><strong>Dr. David Livingston</strong></a></p><p><strong>Zoom: Open Lines to start the New Year</strong></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at <a href="https://doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe</a>
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The Space Show Presents Our Final 2025 Program: A Special Open Lines 2025 Discussion
JAN 3, 2026
The Space Show Presents Our Final 2025 Program: A Special Open Lines 2025 Discussion
<p><strong>Special Open Lines as the last Space Show for 2025, 12-30-25</strong></p><p><strong>Quick Summary</strong></p><p>We explored various rocket systems’ capabilities and development status, including SpaceX’s Starship, Blue Origin’s New Glenn, and NASA’s SLS, while discussing the Artemis missions and Gateway project funding. The program ended with discussions about space infrastructure development, sustainable technology implementation, and the future of space exploration, including private sector initiatives and the potential for dual-use technologies.</p><p><strong>Detailed Summary</strong></p><p>I discussed my appearance on Tom Olson’s radio show. We then discussed the phenomenon of SpaceX employees potentially leaving to start their own space businesses after the company’s IPO, which John Jossy clarified as similar to the “PayPal mafia” concept. Doug expressed skepticism about Mike Griffin’s plan to meet the 2028 moon timeline using existing architecture, noting that Starship’s development is crucial for Artemis III’s success. The conversation also touched on the U.S.’s withdrawal from the Gateway project as depicted by Tom, with ESA now taking full responsibility for its development. This was later challenged and clarified.</p><p>We talked about the status of the Gateway project for the Artemis missions, clarifying that Congress has provided full funding for Gateway despite the President’s budget proposal to end it. They debated the necessity of Gateway and the NRHO orbit, with concerns raised about astronaut safety and the potential to strand individuals on the moon. David shared insights from a recent show featuring Mike Griffin, noting lower-than-expected viewership despite high expectations, perhaps due to the holidays. Later we discussed the success of Blue Origin’s New Glenn launch.</p><p>Also discussed were the capabilities and development status of various rocket systems, including SpaceX’s Starship, Blue Origin’s New Glenn, and NASA’s SLS. Doug explained that SpaceX’s Starship version 2 is still in development and its payload capabilities are not yet proven, while Blue Origin recently announced plans to stretch their New Glenn rocket to increase its payload capacity. We touched on SpaceX’s Mars cargo landing plans, with Doug noting that Elon Musk’s target of 10-30 tons for initial cargo landings seems low to reduce the number of refills needed, potentially eliminating the need for propellant depots or tanker flights. Marshall raised questions about the orbital reentry and heat shield capabilities of the Starship, suggesting that SpaceX may not fully understand how to handle the heat shield requirements for both lunar and Martian landings until they attempt a test flight.</p><p>Our Wisdom Team discussed SpaceX’s progress with their Starship program, noting that while they have had successful ocean landings, a double catch test is an important benchmark for evaluating shield performance. John Jossy mentioned that Relativity Space, led by Eric Schmidt, plans to launch their Taren R rocket late next year with the goal of building data centers in space. The conversation ended with welcoming two new participants, Benjamin Ayala and Twain Knight, who expressed interest in learning about space and discussed their academic backgrounds in physics and aerospace engineering both were students but as you will hear, fizzled out as being guests on the program.</p><p>The group discussed the need for NASA to develop a sustainable infrastructure plan for a permanent presence in space, with Gary Barnhard (he joined us via Zoom) emphasizing the importance of establishing clear driving requirements from a science, systems engineering, and architectural design standpoint. Gary shared an example from the International Space Station’s development to illustrate the impact of controversial requirements, highlighting the need for careful consideration of system capabilities. The discussion concluded with Gary outlining plans for a collaborative design charrette leading up to IAC 2026, which aims to gather insights and explore potential synergies for improving space infrastructure, with a focus on leveraging international partnerships and developing interoperability specifications for power beaming and communication networks.</p><p>Gary discussed a novel approach to micro and partial gravity adaptation, emphasizing the importance of implementing technology with real-world applications and tangible data. Doug inquired about the goal of a design charrette, which Gary explained is to articulate driving requirements rather than provide prescriptive architectural recommendations. They discussed the development of SpaceX’s Starship and the potential for propellant depots, with Gary highlighting the need for sustainable infrastructure and the importance of understanding various propulsion solutions. The conversation touched on life support systems for space missions, with Gary emphasizing the need for systems with multiple degrees of failure tolerance and a buffer for self-stabilization.</p><p>The discussion continued to focus on the future of space exploration and commercial space activities. Gary emphasized the importance of private sector initiatives and the need for companies to take responsibility and authority in driving progress. He noted that the cost of launching payloads to the moon has decreased significantly, with potential for further reductions. Marshall highlighted SpaceX’s achievements in 2025, including the success of Falcon 9 and Starlink satellites, and predicted that SpaceX could become the leading force in space exploration by 2027. The group discussed the economic implications of these developments and the potential for dual-use technologies that benefit both space and terrestrial applications.</p><p>We discussed challenges and progress in space exploration, with Marshall highlighting SpaceX’s successful recovery of its first stage and Blue Origin’s advancements with hydrogen-oxygen upper stages. David expressed concerns about the lack of substantial progress in human spaceflight and space settlement, comparing it to the slow development of nuclear power. John Hunt suggested that developing a continuously inhabited moon base could provide more experience for long-term space living before considering permanent settlement. We emphasized the potential for private enterprise to drive future space missions, citing its willingness to take risks and its ability to operate without government scrutiny. The conversation also touched on the psychological impacts of sending couples and families into space and comparing it to the spirit of early American settlers.</p><p>Gary presented an overview of XISP Inc.’s mission development efforts, highlighting their work on space wear technology that combines electro muscular stimulation with kinetic fabrics for exercise in variable gravity environments. He explained that the technology, which can provide equivalent of a 4-hour workout in 20 minutes, is already available commercially and is being tested with a broad demographic group. David expressed interest in featuring Gary in a dedicated Space Show segment and discussed the potential for using similar technology with animals, particularly dogs, for space missions. The group agreed to schedule Gary’s next appearance on the Space Show for February.\ or later, then program concluded its broadcast.</p><p><em>Special thanks to our sponsors:</em><a target="_blank" href="https://www.northropgrumman.com/">Northrup Grumman</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://aiaa.org/">American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://helixspace.eu/">Helix Space in Luxembourg</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.celestis.com/">Celestis Memorial Spaceflights</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://astrox.com/">Astrox Corporation</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://mae.rutgers.edu/haym-benaroya">Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://spacesettlementprogress.com/">The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.project-atlantis.com/">The Atlantis Project</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artlessentertainment.com">Artless Entertainment</a></p><p>Our <strong>Toll Free Line</strong> for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223 (Not in service at this time)</p><p>For <strong>real time program participation</strong>, email Dr. Space at: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> for instructions and access.</p><p><strong><em>The Space Show</em></strong> is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:</p><p><strong>To donate with Zelle, use the email address: </strong><a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p>If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:</p><p>One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135</p><p><strong>Upcoming Programs:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/04-jan-2026/broadcast-4482-zoom-open-lines-kick-2026"><strong>Broadcast 4482: Zoom: Open Lines to kick of 2026 | Sunday 04 Jan 2026 1200PM PT</strong></a></p><p><strong>Guests: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thespaceshow.com/guest/dr.-david-livingston"><strong>Dr. David Livingston</strong></a></p><p><strong>Zoom: Open Lines to start the New Year</strong></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at <a href="https://doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe</a>
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