<p>In this episode, host Friederike Ernst is joined by Thomas Thiery, a researcher at the Ethereum Foundation, to discuss EIP-7805 and the implementation of FOCIL (Fork-Choice Enforced Inclusion Lists). Thomas explains how the rise of MEV (Maximal Extractable Value) has created a centralized builder market where a few actors now control over 85% of Ethereum&#39;s block production, creating a dangerous bottleneck for censorship. FOCIL addresses this by empowering a decentralized committee of 16 validators to mandate transaction inclusion, making any block that ignores these lists invalid.</p><p> </p><p>They explore the &quot;Tornado Cash&quot; moment and the risks of &quot;silent censorship&quot; for competitive or regulatory reasons. Thomas explains why FOCIL intentionally prioritizes the public mempool over MEV-heavy transactions to prevent the system from being co-opted. Finally, the conversation looks at the future of the Ethereum roadmap, including the Osaka fork and the technical trade-offs between inclusion lists and long-term privacy solutions like encrypted mempools.</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Topics</p><ul><li><p>00:00 Intro &amp; FOCIL</p></li><li><p>04:15 MEV &amp; Centralization</p></li><li><p>09:30 The Builder-Searcher Pipeline</p></li><li><p>15:00 Silent Censorship Risks</p></li><li><p>21:45 FOCIL Architecture &amp; Committees</p></li><li><p>27:10 Validity Rules for Attestors</p></li><li><p>35:20 Spam Protection &amp; Invalid TXs</p></li><li><p>42:15 FOCIL vs. Encrypted Mempools</p></li><li><p>49:00 EIP-7805 Status &amp; Fork Timelines</p></li><li><p>55:30 Future: PQC &amp; ZK EVM</p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><ul><li><p>Thomas Thiery on X: https://x.com/soispoke </p></li><li><p>Ethereum Foundation: https://ethereum.foundation/ </p></li><li><p>EIP-7805 (FOCIL): https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-7805 </p></li><li><p>Gnosis: <a href="https://gnosis.io/"><u>https://gnosis.io/</u></a></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Sponsors: Gnosis: Gnosis has been building core decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem since 2015. With the launch of Gnosis Pay last year, we introduced the world&#39;s first Decentralized Payment Network. Start leveraging its power today at http://gnosis.io</p><p><br></p>