<p>Imagine a podcaster who has been publishing for a couple of years. Every time they check their stats, the number is the same.</p><p>They assume they have hit a plateau.</p><p>So they spend more on marketing. They push harder on promotion. Nothing changes. The number stays flat.</p><p>What that number does not show is what is happening underneath. New listeners <em>are </em>finding the show. At the same time, existing listeners are drifting away. Growth and churn are cancelling each other out.</p><p>The show is moving. The metric makes it look stuck.</p><p>In this episode, we're joined by Dan Misener from Bumper to unpack why download numbers can be misleading, and what better signals actually tell you how your podcast is performing. We also tackle churn head-on. If new listeners are finding your show but not sticking around, we look at what might be driving that drop off and what you can do to change it.</p><ul><li><strong><a href="https://wearebumper.com/" target="_blank">The Bumper Dashboard</a></strong></li><li><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tNhLsGbZsM" target="_blank">Colin's tour of the Bumper Dashboard &amp; Podcraft's analytics</a></strong></li><li><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adeM3_9krpo" target="_blank">How to Calculate Your Podcast Listen Time</a></strong></li><li><strong><a href="https://www.thepodcasthost.com/launchchallenge" target="_blank">The 2026 Podcast Launch Challenge</a></strong></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>Podcraft is brought to you by <a href="https://alitu.com/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcraft&amp;utm_campaign=shownotes" target="_blank">Alitu</a> and <a href="https://www.thepodcasthost.com/podcraft-podcast/" target="_blank">The Podcast Host</a></strong></p>