If you're looking for some fresh air—literally and figuratively—in your approach to leadership and life, you're in the right place. Today, MaryLou joins her friend Matt Potts: outdoor enthusiast, passionate guide, retired CPA, author of the forthcoming book "Wild Places," and all-around genuine soul. Matt's got a remarkable story, from his Kentucky childhood adventures to leading men (and women!) into the wild for connection, healing, and some good, old-fashioned unplugging.

What is so great about Matt is how seamlessly he blends wisdom gleaned from the backcountry with real-world lessons—about courage, letting go, and the power of slowing down. The conversation wanders down trails both literal and metaphorical: topics include leadership, preparation, life transitions, and the importance of finding your own wild place, whether that's in the Rockies or your own backyard.

So pour yourself something cozy, and settle in for a chat that might just inspire you to get outside—or, if nothing else, think a little differently about what it means to lead and to live fully. Here's this week's conversation with Matt Potts.

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Matt's book coming soon: https://wildplacesbook.com/

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