Leading Saints Podcast

<p>Rob Smith, LMAC, LASUDC, is a therapist with over 10 years of personal and professional experience. He specializes in helping individuals tap into their inner strengths, generate momentum for change, and live in alignment with their core values. Rob loves spending time with his wife and supporting their kids in their passions and activities.<br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE followed by photo of the guest --><br /> <img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/09170527/Robert-Smith-Profile-400x400.jpg" alt="Robert Smith" width="400" height="400" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-259898" /><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <!-- "Watch the Video" IMAGE and GENERIC LINK to Circle --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/04134941/Watch-the-Video1-e1754337003739.png" alt="Watch the Video" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-258841" /> <!-- "Share in Zion Lab" IMAGE and GENERIC LINK to Circle --><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/06112457/Share-in-the-ZL-Community-e1757188256510.png" alt="Share Your Thoughts in the Zion Lab Community" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-259139" /></a></p> <h2>Links</h2> <p><a href="https://acceptedlife.com/" target="_blank">Accepted Therapy</a><br /> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community</a><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Circle --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Highlights</h2> <p>Rob discusses the complexities of providing support to individuals facing mental health challenges and the burdens that can arise for leaders in church settings. The conversation emphasizes the importance of empathy, boundaries, and community in effective leadership.</p> <p>00:02:10 &#8211; Importance of Mental Health in Leadership<br /> 00:03:30 &#8211; Balancing Help and Personal Well-being<br /> 00:05:00 &#8211; Interview Introduction with Rob Smith<br /> 00:05:40 &#8211; Rob&#8217;s Background and Specialization<br /> 00:06:30 &#8211; Personal Struggles and the Need for Help<br /> 00:08:00 &#8211; The Journey of Seeking Help<br /> 00:10:00 &#8211; Community Support in Recovery<br /> 00:12:00 &#8211; The Importance of Healthy Boundaries<br /> 00:14:00 &#8211; Empathy in Leadership<br /> 00:16:00 &#8211; Mourning with Those Who Mourn<br /> 00:20:00 &#8211; Understanding the Weight of Pain<br /> 00:22:00 &#8211; The Role of Leaders in Carrying Burdens<br /> 00:23:30 &#8211; The Challenge of Relating to Others&#8217; Struggles<br /> 00:25:00 &#8211; Setting Healthy Boundaries as a Leader<br /> 00:28:00 &#8211; The Complexity of Supporting Others<br /> 00:30:00 &#8211; The Need for Forgiveness and Compassion<br /> 00:32:00 &#8211; The Role of Opposition in Growth<br /> 00:34:00 &#8211; The Importance of Community Resources<br /> 00:36:00 &#8211; Balancing Individual Needs with Community Support<br /> 00:38:00 &#8211; The Role of Gratitude in Helping Others<br /> 00:40:00 &#8211; Delegating Support Within the Church Community<br /> 00:42:00 &#8211; Reflecting on Systemic Issues in Support</p> <h2>Key Insights</h2> <p>Empathy vs. Problem-Solving: Leaders often feel compelled to solve problems for those they support, but true empathy involves sitting with individuals in their pain rather than trying to immediately alleviate it.</p> <p>The Weight of Pain: Understanding that pain has a physical and emotional weight can help leaders connect with those they serve. Leaders should be willing to share in that weight without trying to fix it.</p> <p>Boundaries are Essential: Leaders must establish healthy boundaries to protect their own mental health. This includes recognizing when to step back from situations that may overwhelm them.</p> <p>Community Support: A strong community can enhance recovery and support. Leaders should encourage individuals to seek help from a broader network rather than relying solely on them.</p> <p>Forgiveness and Compassion: Leaders need to practice forgiveness towards those who may not show gratitude or who take advantage of their help. This allows leaders to continue serving without resentment.</p> <p>Opposition in All Things: Recognizing that challenges are a part of life can help leaders understand that they cannot solve every problem. This perspective fosters resilience and growth.</p> <h2>Leadership Applications</h2> <p>Creating Safe Spaces: Leaders can foster environments where individuals feel safe to express their struggles without fear of judgment. This can be achieved by openly discussing difficult emotions and experiences.</p> <p>Utilizing Resources: Leaders should leverage the strengths of their community by connecting individuals with appropriate resources, such as support groups or other members who have faced similar challenges.</p> <p>Regular Check-Ins: Leaders should regularly assess their own well-being and that of their fellow leaders. This can help prevent burnout and ensure that they are equipped to support others effectively.<br /> <!-- SPACE --><br /> <iframe src='https://ask.swellai.com/a/01kejhbp9jcvdbjyq9xnfgmk03' width='100%' height='180' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' seamless='true' style='width:100%; height:180px;'></iframe><br /> <!-- END OF PAGE LINKS TO POPULAR CONTENT --></p> <p><em><strong>The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast </strong></em>is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit <em>Leading Saints&#8217;</em> mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Zion Lab community</a>. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/">LeadingSaints.org</a>.</p> <p><em><strong>Past guests include</strong></em> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/girls-camp-grace-and-the-bishops-office-an-interview-with-emily-belle-freeman/">Emily Belle Freeman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/putting-jesus-at-the-center-of-your-ward-an-interview-with-david-butler/">David Butler</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-art-of-teaching-an-interview-with-hank-smith/">Hank Smith</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-bishop-an-interview-with-john-bytheway/">John Bytheway</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-the-general-with-the-individual-an-interview-with-reyna-and-elena-aburto/">Reyna and Elena Aburto</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-to-do-when-the-bishop-is-an-accidental-diminisher-an-interview-with-liz-wiseman/">Liz Wiseman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-with-trust-an-interview-with-stephen-m-r-covey/">Stephen M. R. Covey</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-science-of-scaling-your-ward-an-interview-with-benjamin-hardy/">Benjamin Hardy</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-president-of-byu-idaho-an-interview-with-elder-alvin-f-meredith-iii/">Elder Alvin F. Meredith III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-general-relief-society-president-an-interview-with-julie-beck/">Julie Beck</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-grace-of-jesus-christ-in-leadership-an-interview-with-brad-wilcox/">Brad Wilcox</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/mental-health-youth-an-interview-with-jody-moore/">Jody Moore</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/unhealthy-ways-we-seek-validation-as-leaders-an-interview-with-tony-overbay/">Tony Overbay</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-a-seventy-an-interview-with-elder-john-h-groberg/">John H. Groberg</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/teach-them-their-identity-an-interview-with-elaine-dalton/">Elaine Dalton</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/a-case-for-the-book-of-mormon-an-interview-with-tad-r-callister/">Tad R. Callister</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-people-to-do-and-be-like-jesus-christ-an-interview-with-lynn-g-robbins/">Lynn G. Robbins</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/principles-of-leadership-an-interview-with-j-devn-cornish/">J. Devn Cornish</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/he-will-magnify-your-efforts-an-interview-with-bonnie-oscarson/">Bonnie Oscarson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/building-the-church-in-eastern-europe-an-interview-with-dennis-b-neuenschwander/">Dennis B. Neuenschwander</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-best-five-years-an-interview-with-kirby-heyborne/">Kirby Heyborne</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/nfl-leadership-at-church-an-interview-with-taysom-hill/">Taysom Hill</a>, Coaches <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-byu-womens-soccer-coach-an-interview-with-jennifer-rockwood/" target="_blank">Jennifer Rockwood</a> and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/from-byu-quarterback-to-stake-president-an-interview-with-brandon-doman/" target="_blank">Brandon Doman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/church-doctrine-policy-leadership-an-interview-with-anthony-sweat/">Anthony Sweat</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bearded-bishops-rated-r-movies-the-honor-code-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/">John Hilton III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-priesthood-church-leadership-an-interview-with-barbara-morgan-gardner/">Barbara Morgan Gardner</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/liberals-doctrine-apologetics-at-church-an-interview-with-blair-hodges/">Blair Hodges</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/disrupting-your-calling-whitney-johnson-rebroadcast/">Whitney Johnson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-every-leader-should-consider-about-community-in-their-ward-ryan-gottfredson-rebroadcast/">Ryan Gottfredson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/being-an-essentialism-bishop-greg-mckeown-rebroadcast/">Greg McKeown</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/why-god-calls-some-as-relief-society-presidents-and-others-as-cancer-survivors-an-interview-with-ganel-lyn-condie/">Ganel-Lyn Condie</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-doctrine-related-to-being-single-or-married-an-interview-with-michael-goodman/">Michael Goodman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-in-council-meetings-an-interview-with-wendy-ulrich/">Wendy Ulrich</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/listen-learn-and-love-lgbt-latter-day-saints-an-interview-with-richard-ostler/">Richard Ostler</a>, and many more in over 800 episodes.</p> <p><em><strong>Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings</strong></em> such as the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bishop/">bishopric</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/reliefsociety/">Relief Society</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/eldersquorum/">elders quorum</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/primary-presidencies/">Primary</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/youth-leadership/">youth leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/stakeleadership/">stake leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ward-mission-leader/">ward mission</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/ward-council/">ward council</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/young-adults/">young adults</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ministering/">ministering</a>, and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/teaching/">teaching</a>.</p

<p>Where is Leading Saints going in 2026? Listen in to find out!</p> <p><!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab and "Watch the Video" IMAGE --><a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/04134941/Watch-the-Video1-e1754337003739.png" alt="Watch the Video" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-258841" /> <!-- "Share in Zion Lab" IMAGE --><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/06112457/Share-in-the-ZL-Community-e1757188256510.png" alt="Share Your Thoughts in the Zion Lab Community" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-259139" /></a></p> <h2>Links</h2> <p><a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community</a><br /> <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org/c/1-000-zion-builders/" target="_blank">Become a Zion Builder</a><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Highlights</h2> <p>In this episode, Kurt Francom discusses the evolution of Leading Saints and the introduction of Zion Lab, an online community aimed at fostering leadership and cultural development among Latter-day Saints.</p> <p>00:03:04 &#8211; Introducing Adam Treadwell<br /> Introduction of Adam Treadwell and his connection to Leading Saints.</p> <p>00:04:03 &#8211; North Star Conference<br /> Promotion of the North Star Conference and its relevance to church leaders.</p> <p>00:06:01 &#8211; Adam&#8217;s Journey with Leading Saints<br /> Adam shares his experience and history with Leading Saints.</p> <p>00:07:01 &#8211; Key Accomplishments of 2025<br /> Summary of key achievements and insights from Leading Saints in 2025.</p> <p>00:10:57 &#8211; Zion Lab Progress<br /> Discussion on the development and functionality of Zion Lab as a community platform.</p> <p>00:11:57 &#8211; In-Person Leadership Gatherings<br /> Exploration of the impact of in-person leadership workshops and conferences.</p> <p>00:12:28 &#8211; Understanding Zion Lab<br /> Description of Zion Lab as a social media platform for church leaders.</p> <p>00:16:06 &#8211; Personal Insights from 2025<br /> Kurt shares personal reflections and insights gained throughout the year.</p> <p>00:19:29 &#8211; Cultural Development in Leadership<br /> Discussion on the importance of culture development in church leadership.</p> <p>00:22:03 &#8211; Future of Leading Saints in 2026<br /> Exploration of content distribution and future plans for Leading Saints.</p> <p>00:25:23 &#8211; Expanding Language Resources<br /> Discussion on the need for Spanish and other language podcasts.</p> <p>00:27:53 &#8211; Importance of Zion Lab<br /> Jared&#8217;s question about the significance of Zion Lab in the evolution of Leading Saints.</p> <p>00:30:32 &#8211; Moderation in Zion Lab<br /> Addressing concerns about moderating discussions and ensuring a safe community.</p> <p>00:34:59 &#8211; Inclusivity in Discussions<br /> Discussion on ensuring diverse voices are heard in Zion Lab.</p> <p>00:35:38 &#8211; Eliminating Borders with Zion Lab<br /> How Zion Lab can connect church leaders beyond geographical boundaries.</p> <p>00:39:39 &#8211; Content Creation Process<br /> Kurt explains his approach to finding and creating content for Leading Saints.</p> <p>00:44:02 &#8211; Emerging Themes and Trends<br /> Discussion on potential themes and trends for future content.</p> <p>00:48:05 &#8211; Navigating Difficult Topics<br /> Kurt shares his thoughts on addressing challenging subjects in church leadership.</p> <h2>Key Insights</h2> <p>Shift to Community Focus: Leading Saints is transitioning from being solely a podcast to a community-driven platform through Zion Lab, where leaders can share ideas and best practices.</p> <p>Grassroots Leadership: Significant cultural shifts within the church will come from lay members rather than institutional changes, highlighting the role of individual initiative in building Zion.</p> <p>Content Creation and Curation: The podcast will continue, but the emphasis will be on community-generated content, allowing for a broader range of voices and experiences to be shared.</p> <p>Diversity of Perspectives: Zion Lab aims to create a safe space for discussions on various topics, including controversial issues, while ensuring that all voices are heard and respected.</p> <p>Language Expansion: There are plans to expand content into other languages, recognizing the diverse experiences of Latter-day Saints worldwide.</p> <h2>Leadership Applications</h2> <p>Encouraging Participation: Leaders are encouraged to actively participate in Zion Lab, sharing their experiences and insights, which can help others in similar situations.</p> <p>Fostering Community: By connecting with others in their local areas and beyond, leaders can find support and inspiration, reinforcing the idea that they are not alone in their challenges.</p> <p>Embracing Change: Leaders should be open to new ideas and approaches, understanding that effective leadership often requires adapting to the unique needs of their communities rather than relying solely on institutional directives.<br /> <!-- SPACE --><br /> <iframe src='https://ask.swellai.com/a/01kej1mr6j7sa5wk6dqdhq61ac' width='100%' height='180' frameborder='0' scrolling='yes' seamless='true' style='width:100%; height:180px;'></iframe><br /> <!-- END OF PAGE LINKS TO POPULAR CONTENT --></p> <p><em><strong>The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast </strong></em>is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit <em>Leading Saints&#8217;</em> mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Zion Lab community</a>. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/">LeadingSaints.org</a>.</p> <p><em><strong>Past guests include</strong></em> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/girls-camp-grace-and-the-bishops-office-an-interview-with-emily-belle-freeman/">Emily Belle Freeman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/putting-jesus-at-the-center-of-your-ward-an-interview-with-david-butler/">David Butler</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-art-of-teaching-an-interview-with-hank-smith/">Hank Smith</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-bishop-an-interview-with-john-bytheway/">John Bytheway</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-the-general-with-the-individual-an-interview-with-reyna-and-elena-aburto/">Reyna and Elena Aburto</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-to-do-when-the-bishop-is-an-accidental-diminisher-an-interview-with-liz-wiseman/">Liz Wiseman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-with-trust-an-interview-with-stephen-m-r-covey/">Stephen M. R. Covey</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-science-of-scaling-your-ward-an-interview-with-benjamin-hardy/">Benjamin Hardy</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-president-of-byu-idaho-an-interview-with-elder-alvin-f-meredith-iii/">Elder Alvin F. Meredith III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-general-relief-society-president-an-interview-with-julie-beck/">Julie Beck</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-grace-of-jesus-christ-in-leadership-an-interview-with-brad-wilcox/">Brad Wilcox</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/mental-health-youth-an-interview-with-jody-moore/">Jody Moore</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/unhealthy-ways-we-seek-validation-as-leaders-an-interview-with-tony-overbay/">Tony Overbay</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-a-seventy-an-interview-with-elder-john-h-groberg/">John H. Groberg</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/teach-them-their-identity-an-interview-with-elaine-dalton/">Elaine Dalton</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/a-case-for-the-book-of-mormon-an-interview-with-tad-r-callister/">Tad R. Callister</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-people-to-do-and-be-like-jesus-christ-an-interview-with-lynn-g-robbins/">Lynn G. Robbins</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/principles-of-leadership-an-interview-with-j-devn-cornish/">J. Devn Cornish</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/he-will-magnify-your-efforts-an-interview-with-bonnie-oscarson/">Bonnie Oscarson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/building-the-church-in-eastern-europe-an-interview-with-dennis-b-neuenschwander/">Dennis B. Neuenschwander</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-best-five-years-an-interview-with-kirby-heyborne/">Kirby Heyborne</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/nfl-leadership-at-church-an-interview-with-taysom-hill/">Taysom Hill</a>, Coaches <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-byu-womens-soccer-coach-an-interview-with-jennifer-rockwood/" target="_blank">Jennifer Rockwood</a> and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/from-byu-quarterback-to-stake-president-an-interview-with-brandon-doman/" target="_blank">Brandon Doman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/church-doctrine-policy-leadership-an-interview-with-anthony-sweat/">Anthony Sweat</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bearded-bishops-rated-r-movies-the-honor-code-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/">John Hilton III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-priesthood-church-leadership-an-interview-with-barbara-morgan-gardner/">Barbara Morgan Gardner</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/liberals-doctrine-apologetics-at-church-an-interview-with-blair-hodges/">Blair Hodges</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/disrupting-your-calling-whitney-johnson-rebroadcast/">Whitney Johnson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-every-leader-should-consider-about-community-in-their-ward-ryan-gottfredson-rebroadcast/">Ryan Gottfredson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/being-an-essentialism-bishop-greg-mckeown-rebroadcast/">Greg McKeown</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/why-god-calls-some-as-relief-society-presidents-and-others-as-cancer-survivors-an-interview-with-ganel-lyn-condie/">Ganel-Lyn Condie</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-doctrine-related-to-being-single-or-married-an-interview-with-michael-goodman/">Michael Goodman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-in-council-meetings-an-interview-with-wendy-ulrich/">Wendy Ulrich</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/listen-learn-and-love-lgbt-latter-day-saints-an-interview-with-richard-ostler/">Richard Ostler</a>, and many more in over 800 episodes.</p> <p><em><strong>Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings</strong></em> such as the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bishop/">bishopric</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/reliefsociety/">Relief Society</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/eldersquorum/">elders quorum</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/primary-presidencies/">Primary</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/youth-leadership/">youth leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/stakeleadership/">stake leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ward-mission-leader/">ward mission</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/ward-council/">ward council</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/young-adults/">young adults</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ministering/">ministering</a>, and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/teaching/">teaching</a>.</p>

<p>Lani Hilton is a dedicated enthusiast of the Easter Season. She has lived a Christ-centered Easter season with her family for 20 years and has been teaching about it in settings like BYU Education Week and firesides since 2015. She published a book called <em>Celebrate Sunday</em> and has written articles for the Liahona and LDS living. Along with her husband, John, she is the proud parent of six children, four currently at Brigham Young University. Lani finds great joy in the simplicity and beauty of the gospel of Jesus Christ.</p> <p><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/05193406/lani-hilton-2023-scaled-e1767666886668-400x400.jpg" alt="Lani Hilton" width="400" height="400" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-259864" /><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab and "Watch the Video" IMAGE --><a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/04134941/Watch-the-Video1-e1754337003739.png" alt="Watch the Video" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-258841" /> <!-- "Share in Zion Lab" IMAGE --><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/06112457/Share-in-the-ZL-Community-e1757188256510.png" alt="Share Your Thoughts in the Zion Lab Community" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-259139" /></a><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Links</h2> <p><a href="http://lanihilton.com/easter" target="_blank">lanihilton.com/easter</a><br /> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Centered-Easter-Day-Day-Activities/dp/1570087792/" target="_blank"><em>A Christ-Centered Easter: Day-By-Day Activities to Celebrate Easter Week</em></a><br /> <a href="https://www.deseretbook.com/search/?q=Easter&#038;search-button=&#038;lang=en_US" target="_blank">Easter-themed resources from Deseret Book</a><br /> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-others-to-jesus-through-the-cross-at-calvary-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/" target="_blank">Connecting Others to Jesus Through the Cross at Calvary &#124; An Interview with John Hilton III</a><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Highlights</h2> <p>Lani Hilton talks about the importance of making Easter a season rather than just a single day of celebration. Lani shares her journey of creating meaningful Easter traditions and how she has implemented these ideas at both home and community levels, particularly focusing on Palm Sunday.</p> <p>00:04:04 &#8211; Lonnie&#8217;s Journey to Celebrating Easter<br /> 00:05:24 &#8211; Simplifying Traditions as a Busy Mom<br /> 00:06:08 &#8211; Church&#8217;s Focus on Easter as a Season<br /> 00:06:40 &#8211; Elder Stevenson&#8217;s Call for a Christ-Centered Easter<br /> 00:09:51 &#8211; Expanding the Easter Celebration Timeline<br /> 00:10:57 &#8211; Encouragement to Start Early with Planning<br /> 00:12:44 &#8211; Involving Youth in Easter Activities<br /> 00:13:57 &#8211; Lonnie&#8217;s Experience with Stake Activities<br /> 00:15:41 &#8211; The Importance of Creating Meaningful Experiences<br /> 00:17:16 &#8211; Organizing a Palm Sunday Celebration<br /> 00:20:24 &#8211; Keeping the Celebration Engaging and Short<br /> 00:22:07 &#8211; Community Involvement and Outreach<br /> 00:25:06 &#8211; The Joy of Praising the Savior<br /> 00:27:16 &#8211; The Impact of a Large Gathering<br /> 00:29:03 &#8211; Advertising the Palm Sunday Event<br /> 00:31:01 &#8211; Encouraging Family Participation<br /> 00:32:24 &#8211; Resources for Planning Easter Activities<br /> 00:35:35 &#8211; Reflection on the Success of the Event<br /> 00:39:15 &#8211; Looking Ahead to Future Celebrations</p> <h3>Key Insights</h3> <p>Easter as a Season: Lani emphasizes the need to extend the celebration of Easter beyond just Easter Sunday, suggesting that it can encompass a period of reflection and worship leading up to and following the holiday.</p> <p>Inspiration from Church Leaders: Elder Stevenson’s talks have encouraged members to recognize Palm Sunday and the Easter season more thoughtfully, prompting a shift in how Latter-day Saints approach these celebrations.</p> <p>Community Involvement: Lani highlights the importance of involving the entire community in Easter celebrations, suggesting that events should be inclusive and accessible to all, not just church members.</p> <p>Simple Traditions: She advocates for simple, Christ-centered traditions that can be easily integrated into family life, making it possible for busy families to participate without feeling overwhelmed.</p> <p>Worshipful Experiences: The focus should be on creating worshipful experiences that allow participants to praise and adore Jesus Christ, fostering a deeper connection to the Savior during this holy time.</p> <h3>Leadership Applications</h3> <p>Planning Ahead: Leaders should begin discussions about Easter celebrations in January to allow ample time for planning and community involvement, ensuring that activities are well-organized and meaningful.</p> <p>Encouraging Participation: Leaders can facilitate events that invite participation from all ages, such as a Palm Sunday celebration, which can help foster a sense of community and shared worship.</p> <p>Flexibility in Activities: Leaders are encouraged to adapt ideas and resources to fit their local context, recognizing that not every ward or stake will have the same capabilities or traditions, but all can create impactful experiences centered on Christ.<br /> <!-- SPACE --><br /> <iframe src='https://ask.swellai.com/a/01ke89g4ae1md3k9w2zfntx0pq' width='100%' height='180' frameborder='0' scrolling='yes' seamless='true' style='width:100%; height:180px;'></iframe><br /> <!-- END OF PAGE LINKS TO POPULAR CONTENT --></p> <p><em><strong>The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast </strong></em>is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit <em>Leading Saints&#8217;</em> mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Zion Lab community</a>. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/">LeadingSaints.org</a>.</p> <p><em><strong>Past guests include</strong></em> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/girls-camp-grace-and-the-bishops-office-an-interview-with-emily-belle-freeman/">Emily Belle Freeman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/putting-jesus-at-the-center-of-your-ward-an-interview-with-david-butler/">David Butler</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-art-of-teaching-an-interview-with-hank-smith/">Hank Smith</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-bishop-an-interview-with-john-bytheway/">John Bytheway</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-the-general-with-the-individual-an-interview-with-reyna-and-elena-aburto/">Reyna and Elena Aburto</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-to-do-when-the-bishop-is-an-accidental-diminisher-an-interview-with-liz-wiseman/">Liz Wiseman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-with-trust-an-interview-with-stephen-m-r-covey/">Stephen M. R. Covey</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-science-of-scaling-your-ward-an-interview-with-benjamin-hardy/">Benjamin Hardy</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-president-of-byu-idaho-an-interview-with-elder-alvin-f-meredith-iii/">Elder Alvin F. Meredith III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-general-relief-society-president-an-interview-with-julie-beck/">Julie Beck</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-grace-of-jesus-christ-in-leadership-an-interview-with-brad-wilcox/">Brad Wilcox</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/mental-health-youth-an-interview-with-jody-moore/">Jody Moore</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/unhealthy-ways-we-seek-validation-as-leaders-an-interview-with-tony-overbay/">Tony Overbay</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-a-seventy-an-interview-with-elder-john-h-groberg/">John H. Groberg</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/teach-them-their-identity-an-interview-with-elaine-dalton/">Elaine Dalton</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/a-case-for-the-book-of-mormon-an-interview-with-tad-r-callister/">Tad R. Callister</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-people-to-do-and-be-like-jesus-christ-an-interview-with-lynn-g-robbins/">Lynn G. Robbins</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/principles-of-leadership-an-interview-with-j-devn-cornish/">J. Devn Cornish</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/he-will-magnify-your-efforts-an-interview-with-bonnie-oscarson/">Bonnie Oscarson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/building-the-church-in-eastern-europe-an-interview-with-dennis-b-neuenschwander/">Dennis B. Neuenschwander</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-best-five-years-an-interview-with-kirby-heyborne/">Kirby Heyborne</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/nfl-leadership-at-church-an-interview-with-taysom-hill/">Taysom Hill</a>, Coaches <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-byu-womens-soccer-coach-an-interview-with-jennifer-rockwood/" target="_blank">Jennifer Rockwood</a> and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/from-byu-quarterback-to-stake-president-an-interview-with-brandon-doman/" target="_blank">Brandon Doman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/church-doctrine-policy-leadership-an-interview-with-anthony-sweat/">Anthony Sweat</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bearded-bishops-rated-r-movies-the-honor-code-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/">John Hilton III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-priesthood-church-leadership-an-interview-with-barbara-morgan-gardner/">Barbara Morgan Gardner</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/liberals-doctrine-apologetics-at-church-an-interview-with-blair-hodges/">Blair Hodges</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/disrupting-your-calling-whitney-johnson-rebroadcast/">Whitney Johnson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-every-leader-should-consider-about-community-in-their-ward-ryan-gottfredson-rebroadcast/">Ryan Gottfredson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/being-an-essentialism-bishop-greg-mckeown-rebroadcast/">Greg McKeown</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/why-god-calls-some-as-relief-society-presidents-and-others-as-cancer-survivors-an-interview-with-ganel-lyn-condie/">Ganel-Lyn Condie</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-doctrine-related-to-being-single-or-married-an-interview-with-michael-goodman/">Michael Goodman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-in-council-meetings-an-interview-with-wendy-ulrich/">Wendy Ulrich</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/listen-learn-and-love-lgbt-latter-day-saints-an-interview-with-richard-ostler/">Richard Ostler</a>, and many more in over 800 episodes.</p> <p><em><strong>Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings</strong></em> such as the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bishop/">bishopric</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/reliefsociety/">Relief Society</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/eldersquorum/">elders quorum</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/primary-presidencies/">Primary</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/youth-leadership/">youth leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/stakeleadership/">stake leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ward-mission-leader/">ward mission</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/ward-council/">ward council</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/young-adults/">young adults</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ministering/">ministering</a>, and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/teaching/">teaching</a>.</p>

<p>John Hilton III was born in San Francisco and grew up in Seattle. He served a mission in Denver, and got a Bachelor&#8217;s degree from Brigham Young University. While there he met his wife Lani and they have six children. They have lived in Boise, Boston, Miami, Mexico, Jerusalem and China. John has a Master&#8217;s degree from Harvard and a Ph.D from BYU, both in Education. John is a professor of Religious Education at BYU.</p> <p>John has published several books with Deseret Book, including <em>Considering the Cross: How Calvary Connects Us with Christ</em>. He’s the author of the new course “Finding Christ in the Old Testament.”<br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE followed by photo of the guest --><br /> <img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/15161805/John-Hilton-Faculty-Photo-e1767139084138-400x400.jpg" alt="John Hilton III" width="400" height="400" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-64893" /><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab and "Watch the Video" IMAGE --><a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/04134941/Watch-the-Video1-e1754337003739.png" alt="Watch the Video" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-258841" /> <!-- "Share in Zion Lab" IMAGE --><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/06112457/Share-in-the-ZL-Community-e1757188256510.png" alt="Share Your Thoughts in the Zion Lab Community" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-259139" /></a><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Links</h2> <p><a href="https://scripturecentral.org/" target="_blank">ScriptureCentral.org</a><br /> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@scripturecentralofficial" target="_blank">Scripture Central on YouTube</a><br /> <a href="https://johnhiltoniii.com/findingchrist" target="_blank">Finding Christ in the Old Testament</a><br /> <a href="https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/holy-bible-translations-editions-church-of-jesus-christ" target="_blank">Newsroom: New Guidance on Bible Translations for Latter-day Saints</a><br /> <a href="https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook/38-church-policies-and-guidelines?lang=eng#title_number139" target="_blank">Handbook: 38.8.40.1 Editions and translations of the Holy Bible</a><br /> <a href="https://www.youversion.com/bible-app" target="_blank">YouVersion Bible App page</a> (<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bible/id282935706" target="_blank">Apple app here</a>)<br /> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/keeping-jesus-as-the-center-of-leadership-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/" target="_blank">Keeping Jesus as the Center of Leadership &#124; An Interview with John Hilton III</a><br /> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-others-to-jesus-through-the-cross-at-calvary-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/" target="_blank">Connecting Others to Jesus Through the Cross at Calvary &#124; An Interview with John Hilton III</a><br /> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bearded-bishops-rated-r-movies-honor-code-john-hilton-iii-rebroadcast/" target="_blank">Bearded Bishops, Rated-R Movies, &#038; the Honor Code &#124; An Interview with John Hilton III</a><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Highlights</h2> <p>In this episode, John discusses the recent changes in the Church&#8217;s approach to Bible translations and how these changes can enhance understanding of the scriptures, particularly the Old Testament. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accessibility and comprehension in scripture study.</p> <h3>Key Insights</h3> <p>The Church&#8217;s handbook now states that while members should generally use a preferred or church-published edition of the Bible, other translations may also be used, reflecting a shift towards inclusivity and understanding.</p> <p>Many individuals struggle with the King James Version due to its higher reading level, which can hinder their engagement with the scriptures. Simpler translations can provide clarity and accessibility.</p> <p>Various Bible translations, such as the English Standard Version (ESV) and New International Version (NIV), can help bridge the gap for those who find the King James Version challenging, making the scriptures more relatable and understandable.</p> <p>The discussion highlights the importance of using different translations in teaching settings to enhance comprehension and engagement, particularly for youth and those unfamiliar with the King James Version.</p> <p>Leaders are encouraged to create an inclusive environment in classes where all translations are respected, fostering a space for discussion and learning.</p> <h3>Leadership Applications</h3> <p>Leaders can promote the use of various Bible translations in their classes to help members better understand scriptural principles, especially for those who may struggle with traditional texts.</p> <p>By being aware of the reading levels of different translations, leaders can guide individuals to resources that suit their comprehension needs, ensuring that everyone can access the teachings of the scriptures.</p> <p>Encouraging open discussions about different translations can help create a welcoming atmosphere in church settings, allowing members to feel comfortable sharing their insights and questions without fear of judgment.</p> <p>00:02:44 &#8211; Guest Introduction: John Hilton III<br /> 00:03:26 &#8211; Classroom Applications of Bible Translations<br /> 00:04:08 &#8211; John Hilton&#8217;s Projects with Scripture Central<br /> 00:04:50 &#8211; Changes in Church Handbook Regarding Bible Translations<br /> 00:08:34 &#8211; Discussion on Handbook Changes<br /> 00:14:33 &#8211; Historical Context of Bible Translations<br /> 00:19:07 &#8211; Addressing Concerns About Modern Translations<br /> 00:21:18 &#8211; Recommendations for Bible Translations<br /> 00:24:31 &#8211; Using Different Translations for Comprehension<br /> 00:26:04 &#8211; Importance of Accessible Translations for Youth<br /> 00:28:01 &#8211; Anticipating Classroom Dynamics with Various Translations<br /> 00:30:21 &#8211; Creating a Respectful Classroom Environment<br /> 00:32:51 &#8211; Teaching Strategies for Engaging with Scriptures<br /> 00:41:18 &#8211; The Role of Listening to Scripture<br /> 00:44:10 &#8211; Speculation on Future Translations of Church Scriptures<br /> 00:47:44 &#8211; Encouraging Leaders to Support Comprehension in Others<br /> <!-- SPACE --><br /> <iframe src='https://ask.swellai.com/a/01kdrtektjr4w430vh7khxvxsp' width='100%' height='180' frameborder='0' scrolling='yes' seamless='true' style='width:100%; height:180px;'></iframe><br /> <!-- END OF PAGE LINKS TO POPULAR CONTENT --></p> <p><em><strong>The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast </strong></em>is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit <em>Leading Saints&#8217;</em> mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Zion Lab community</a>. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/">LeadingSaints.org</a>.</p> <p><em><strong>Past guests include</strong></em> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/girls-camp-grace-and-the-bishops-office-an-interview-with-emily-belle-freeman/">Emily Belle Freeman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/putting-jesus-at-the-center-of-your-ward-an-interview-with-david-butler/">David Butler</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-art-of-teaching-an-interview-with-hank-smith/">Hank Smith</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-bishop-an-interview-with-john-bytheway/">John Bytheway</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-the-general-with-the-individual-an-interview-with-reyna-and-elena-aburto/">Reyna and Elena Aburto</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-to-do-when-the-bishop-is-an-accidental-diminisher-an-interview-with-liz-wiseman/">Liz Wiseman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-with-trust-an-interview-with-stephen-m-r-covey/">Stephen M. R. Covey</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-science-of-scaling-your-ward-an-interview-with-benjamin-hardy/">Benjamin Hardy</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-president-of-byu-idaho-an-interview-with-elder-alvin-f-meredith-iii/">Elder Alvin F. Meredith III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-general-relief-society-president-an-interview-with-julie-beck/">Julie Beck</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-grace-of-jesus-christ-in-leadership-an-interview-with-brad-wilcox/">Brad Wilcox</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/mental-health-youth-an-interview-with-jody-moore/">Jody Moore</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/unhealthy-ways-we-seek-validation-as-leaders-an-interview-with-tony-overbay/">Tony Overbay</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-a-seventy-an-interview-with-elder-john-h-groberg/">John H. Groberg</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/teach-them-their-identity-an-interview-with-elaine-dalton/">Elaine Dalton</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/a-case-for-the-book-of-mormon-an-interview-with-tad-r-callister/">Tad R. Callister</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-people-to-do-and-be-like-jesus-christ-an-interview-with-lynn-g-robbins/">Lynn G. Robbins</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/principles-of-leadership-an-interview-with-j-devn-cornish/">J. Devn Cornish</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/he-will-magnify-your-efforts-an-interview-with-bonnie-oscarson/">Bonnie Oscarson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/building-the-church-in-eastern-europe-an-interview-with-dennis-b-neuenschwander/">Dennis B. Neuenschwander</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-best-five-years-an-interview-with-kirby-heyborne/">Kirby Heyborne</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/nfl-leadership-at-church-an-interview-with-taysom-hill/">Taysom Hill</a>, Coaches <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-byu-womens-soccer-coach-an-interview-with-jennifer-rockwood/" target="_blank">Jennifer Rockwood</a> and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/from-byu-quarterback-to-stake-president-an-interview-with-brandon-doman/" target="_blank">Brandon Doman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/church-doctrine-policy-leadership-an-interview-with-anthony-sweat/">Anthony Sweat</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-priesthood-church-leadership-an-interview-with-barbara-morgan-gardner/">Barbara Morgan Gardner</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/liberals-doctrine-apologetics-at-church-an-interview-with-blair-hodges/">Blair Hodges</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/disrupting-your-calling-whitney-johnson-rebroadcast/">Whitney Johnson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-every-leader-should-consider-about-community-in-their-ward-ryan-gottfredson-rebroadcast/">Ryan Gottfredson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/being-an-essentialism-bishop-greg-mckeown-rebroadcast/">Greg McKeown</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/why-god-calls-some-as-relief-society-presidents-and-others-as-cancer-survivors-an-interview-with-ganel-lyn-condie/">Ganel-Lyn Condie</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-doctrine-related-to-being-single-or-married-an-interview-with-michael-goodman/">Michael Goodman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-in-council-meetings-an-interview-with-wendy-ulrich/">Wendy Ulrich</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/listen-learn-and-love-lgbt-latter-day-saints-an-interview-with-richard-ostler/">Richard Ostler</a>, and many more in over 800 episodes.</p> <p><em><strong>Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings</strong></em> such as the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bishop/">bishopric</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/reliefsociety/">Relief Society</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/eldersquorum/">elders quorum</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/primary-presidencies/">Primary</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/youth-leadership/">youth leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/stakeleadership/">stake leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ward-mission-leader/">ward mission</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/ward-council/">ward council</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/young-adults/">young adults</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ministering/">ministering</a>, and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/teaching/">teaching</a>.</p>

<p>Joshua Sears earned his BA in Ancient Near Eastern Studies at Brigham Young University, an MA from The Ohio State University, and a PhD in Hebrew Bible from The University of Texas at Austin. His research focuses on biblical polygamy, the book of Isaiah, and Latter-day Saint Bible editions. He has presented at numerous academic and Church-related conferences and is the author of <em>A Modern Guide to an Old Testament</em>.<br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE followed by photo of the guest --><br /> <img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/23220130/Joshua-Sears-400x400.png" alt="Joshua Sears" width="400" height="400" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-259836" /><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab and "Watch the Video" IMAGE --><a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/04134941/Watch-the-Video1-e1754337003739.png" alt="Watch the Video" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-258841" /> <!-- "Share in Zion Lab" IMAGE --><img decoding="async" src="https://files.leadingsaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/06112457/Share-in-the-ZL-Community-e1757188256510.png" alt="Share Your Thoughts in the Zion Lab Community" width="300" height="100" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-259139" /></a><br /> <!-- Leave this comment to create a SPACE --><br /> <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Links</h2> <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Guide-Old-Testament/dp/1639934898" target="_blank"><em>A Modern Guide to an Old Testament</em></a><br /> <a href="https://rsc.byu.edu/" target="_blank">BYU Religious Studies Center: rsc.byu.edu</a><br /> <a href="https://rsc.byu.edu/vol-20-no-3-2019/savior-sword" target="_blank">Kerry Muhlestein: &#8220;A Savior with a Sword&#8221;</a><br /> <a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/" target="_blank">Blue Letter Bible</a><br /> <a href="https://biblehub.com/" target="_blank">BibleHub</a><br /> <a href="https://netbible.org/bible/Genesis+1" target="_blank">NetBible.org</a><br /> <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-Revised-Standard-Version-Updated-Edition-NRSVue-Bible/#vinfo" target="_blank">NRSVUE Bible: New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition</a><br /> <!-- GENERIC LINK to Zion Lab --><a href="https://leadingsaints.org/zion" target="_blank">Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community</a></p> <h2>Key Insights</h2> <p>Understanding Genres: The Old Testament contains various literary genres, including poetry, narrative, and prophecy. Recognizing these genres is crucial for proper interpretation and enhances the reading experience.</p> <p>Challenges of the Old Testament: The text is lengthy and covers a vast historical period, which can be overwhelming. It also includes complex themes such as violence and cultural practices that may challenge modern readers.</p> <p>Christ in the Old Testament: Jehovah, the Lord in the Old Testament, is identified as the premortal Jesus Christ. Understanding this connection allows readers to see Christ&#8217;s active role throughout the text, not just in prophecies of His mortal ministry.</p> <p>Resources for Study: Utilizing various resources, including the Come Follow Me manual, podcasts, and online tools, can enhance understanding and provide context for difficult passages.</p> <p>Addressing Difficult Questions: It is acceptable for teachers to admit when they do not know the answer to a question. This honesty fosters a learning environment and encourages further exploration of the scriptures.</p> <h2>Leadership Applications</h2> <p>Encouraging Engagement: Leaders can promote a deeper understanding of the Old Testament by encouraging members to explore its genres and themes, helping them to appreciate its relevance to their faith.</p> <p>Creating a Supportive Environment: By modeling humility and openness about not having all the answers, leaders can create a safe space for discussion and inquiry, allowing members to feel comfortable asking questions.</p> <p>Utilizing Resources: Leaders should leverage available resources, such as the new institute manuals and online tools, to prepare lessons that are informative and engaging, ensuring that the focus remains on the scriptures themselves.</p> <h2>Timestamps</h2> <p>00:03:02 &#8211; Overview of &#8220;A Modern Guide to an Old Testament&#8221;<br /> 00:04:18 &#8211; Challenges of the Old Testament<br /> 00:05:33 &#8211; The Complexity of Old Testament Genres<br /> 00:06:43 &#8211; Teaching Strategies for the Old Testament<br /> 00:08:10 &#8211; Shifting Mindsets for Old Testament Study<br /> 00:09:48 &#8211; Importance of Understanding Context<br /> 00:11:06 &#8211; Balancing Content Mastery and Teaching<br /> 00:12:28 &#8211; Keeping Jesus Christ at the Center<br /> 00:14:10 &#8211; Resources for Hebrew Words and Translations<br /> 00:15:46 &#8211; Using Podcasts for Study<br /> 00:17:27 &#8211; Navigating Difficult Questions in Class<br /> 00:19:19 &#8211; Emphasizing Conversion in Teaching<br /> 00:20:30 &#8211; The Role of AI in Biblical Study<br /> 00:22:04 &#8211; Addressing Tough Issues in the Old Testament<br /> <!-- SPACE --><br /> <iframe src='https://ask.swellai.com/a/01kd98e2nrknwrmw55p37wahfy' width='100%' height='180' frameborder='0' scrolling='yes' seamless='true' style='width:100%; height:180px;'></iframe><br /> <!-- END OF PAGE LINKS TO POPULAR CONTENT --></p> <p><em><strong>The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast </strong></em>is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit <em>Leading Saints&#8217;</em> mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the <a href="https://app.leadingsaints.org" target="_blank">Zion Lab community</a>. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/">LeadingSaints.org</a>.</p> <p><em><strong>Past guests include</strong></em> <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/girls-camp-grace-and-the-bishops-office-an-interview-with-emily-belle-freeman/">Emily Belle Freeman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/putting-jesus-at-the-center-of-your-ward-an-interview-with-david-butler/">David Butler</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-art-of-teaching-an-interview-with-hank-smith/">Hank Smith</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-bishop-an-interview-with-john-bytheway/">John Bytheway</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/connecting-the-general-with-the-individual-an-interview-with-reyna-and-elena-aburto/">Reyna and Elena Aburto</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-to-do-when-the-bishop-is-an-accidental-diminisher-an-interview-with-liz-wiseman/">Liz Wiseman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-with-trust-an-interview-with-stephen-m-r-covey/">Stephen M. R. Covey</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-science-of-scaling-your-ward-an-interview-with-benjamin-hardy/">Benjamin Hardy</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-president-of-byu-idaho-an-interview-with-elder-alvin-f-meredith-iii/">Elder Alvin F. Meredith III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-general-relief-society-president-an-interview-with-julie-beck/">Julie Beck</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-grace-of-jesus-christ-in-leadership-an-interview-with-brad-wilcox/">Brad Wilcox</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/mental-health-youth-an-interview-with-jody-moore/">Jody Moore</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/unhealthy-ways-we-seek-validation-as-leaders-an-interview-with-tony-overbay/">Tony Overbay</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-a-seventy-an-interview-with-elder-john-h-groberg/">John H. Groberg</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/teach-them-their-identity-an-interview-with-elaine-dalton/">Elaine Dalton</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/a-case-for-the-book-of-mormon-an-interview-with-tad-r-callister/">Tad R. Callister</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/leading-people-to-do-and-be-like-jesus-christ-an-interview-with-lynn-g-robbins/">Lynn G. Robbins</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/principles-of-leadership-an-interview-with-j-devn-cornish/">J. Devn Cornish</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/he-will-magnify-your-efforts-an-interview-with-bonnie-oscarson/">Bonnie Oscarson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/building-the-church-in-eastern-europe-an-interview-with-dennis-b-neuenschwander/">Dennis B. Neuenschwander</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-best-five-years-an-interview-with-kirby-heyborne/">Kirby Heyborne</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/nfl-leadership-at-church-an-interview-with-taysom-hill/">Taysom Hill</a>, Coaches <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/how-i-lead-as-byu-womens-soccer-coach-an-interview-with-jennifer-rockwood/" target="_blank">Jennifer Rockwood</a> and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/from-byu-quarterback-to-stake-president-an-interview-with-brandon-doman/" target="_blank">Brandon Doman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/church-doctrine-policy-leadership-an-interview-with-anthony-sweat/">Anthony Sweat</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bearded-bishops-rated-r-movies-the-honor-code-an-interview-with-john-hilton-iii/">John Hilton III</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-priesthood-church-leadership-an-interview-with-barbara-morgan-gardner/">Barbara Morgan Gardner</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/liberals-doctrine-apologetics-at-church-an-interview-with-blair-hodges/">Blair Hodges</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/disrupting-your-calling-whitney-johnson-rebroadcast/">Whitney Johnson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/what-every-leader-should-consider-about-community-in-their-ward-ryan-gottfredson-rebroadcast/">Ryan Gottfredson</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/being-an-essentialism-bishop-greg-mckeown-rebroadcast/">Greg McKeown</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/why-god-calls-some-as-relief-society-presidents-and-others-as-cancer-survivors-an-interview-with-ganel-lyn-condie/">Ganel-Lyn Condie</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/the-doctrine-related-to-being-single-or-married-an-interview-with-michael-goodman/">Michael Goodman</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/women-in-council-meetings-an-interview-with-wendy-ulrich/">Wendy Ulrich</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/listen-learn-and-love-lgbt-latter-day-saints-an-interview-with-richard-ostler/">Richard Ostler</a>, and many more in over 800 episodes.</p> <p><em><strong>Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings</strong></em> such as the <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/bishop/">bishopric</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/reliefsociety/">Relief Society</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/eldersquorum/">elders quorum</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/primary-presidencies/">Primary</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/youth-leadership/">youth leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/stakeleadership/">stake leadership</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ward-mission-leader/">ward mission</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/ward-council/">ward council</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/tag/young-adults/">young adults</a>, <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/ministering/">ministering</a>, and <a href="https://leadingsaints.org/category/teaching/">teaching</a>.</p>