<p><a href="https://traffic.libsyn.com/lssacademy/GA_610_Heather_Underwood_and_Adam_Marsland__mixdown.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-737110 size-large" src="https://blog.gembaacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/HeatherAdam-1024x683.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="454" srcset="https://blog.gembaacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/HeatherAdam-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://blog.gembaacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/HeatherAdam-300x200.jpg 300w, https://blog.gembaacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/HeatherAdam-768x512.jpg 768w, https://blog.gembaacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/HeatherAdam.jpg 1200w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p> <p style="text-align: left;">This week&#8217;s guests are Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland. Ron, Heather, and Adam discussed how lean is being applied in legal settings, the status quo when it comes to AI, what the future might look like, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download <strong><a href="https://traffic.libsyn.com/lssacademy/GA_610_Heather_Underwood_and_Adam_Marsland__mixdown.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a></strong>.</p> <h3><strong>In this episode you&#8217;ll learn: </strong></h3> <ul> <li>The quotes that inspire Heather and Adam (3:44)</li> <li>Their backgrounds (5:37)</li> <li>The role of lean (7:36)</li> <li>Examples of using lean in a legal setting (10:20)</li> <li>What they&#8217;re learning (13:01)</li> <li>The future of AI and its effect on humanity (17:38)</li> <li>Challenges as it relates to lean and AI (19:14)</li> <li>What things will look like in five years (24:52)</li> <li>The adoption of lean in the legal industry (27:01)</li> <li>Moving from control to curiosity (29:10)</li> <li>Their final words of wisdom (33:33)</li> </ul> <h3><strong>Podcast Resources</strong></h3> <ul> <li><strong><a href="https://traffic.libsyn.com/lssacademy/GA_610_Heather_Underwood_and_Adam_Marsland__mixdown.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Right Click to Download this Podcast as an MP3</a></strong></li> <li><strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/apmarsland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Adam on LinkedIn</a></strong></li> <li><strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherunderwood94/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Heather on LinkedIn</a></strong></li> <li><strong><a href="https://blog.gembaacademy.com/2020/07/02/ga-326-lean-and-law-in-the-uk-with-adam-marsland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">GA 326 | Lean and Law in the UK with Adam Marsland</a></strong></li> <li><strong><a href="https://blog.gembaacademy.com/2022/05/05/ga-422-getting-lean-buy-in-with-adam-marsland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">GA 422 | Getting Lean Buy-In with Adam Marsland</a></strong></li> </ul> <h3><strong>Get All the Latest News from Gemba Academy</strong></h3> <p>Our newsletter is a great way to receive updates on new courses, blog posts, and more. Sign up <strong><a href="https://www.gembaacademy.com/about/news" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a></strong>.</p> <h3><strong>What Do You Think?</strong></h3> <p>Are you concerned for the future in regards to AI? Why or why not?</p>