<p>In this Money Talks: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/APo9WbueZ4A/felix-salmon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Felix Salmon</a> is joined by journalist <a href="https://www.youtube.com/marianavanzeller" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mariana van Zeller</a>, who has spent years reporting on black and gray markets around the world and has a new podcast, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hidden-third/id1845989117" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Hidden Third</a>, that delves into these powerful underground economies. They’ll get into what Mariana has seen embedded with criminal operators, from the surprisingly mundane to the darker side of working outside the system.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><br><p>Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Slate Money show page on<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/slate-money/id876523888" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Apple Podcasts</a> and<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2AgxNbNcUOckZSww9mk8mX" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Spotify</a>. Or, visit<a href="https://slate.com/podcast-plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=Money&amp;utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/moneyplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. </p><br><p>Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Cheyna Roth.</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>