A Productive Conversation

This time on A Productive Conversation, I sit down with someone who has spent decades at the intersection of technology, leadership, and what it means to remain truly human. Faisal Hoque isn’t just writing about AI from afar—he has lived inside this world for more than thirty years. From founding multiple companies to advising global organizations and government agencies, he brings a rare blend of deep technical expertise and grounded philosophical clarity.In this conversation, we get into his newest book, Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI, and explore the place where innovation meets conscience. We talk about fear and fascination, the frameworks that help us navigate uncertainty, and the practical ways AI is already reshaping how we think, work, and relate. It’s a wide-ranging, honest exchange about what we stand to gain—and what we can’t afford to lose.Six Discussion PointsWhy the rise of generative AI is only the beginning—and why thinking still mattersHow fear and fascination operate as “twin cousins” in our relationship with emerging technologyUsing the OPEN and CARE frameworks as complementary guides for opportunity and riskWhat organizations often overlook when AI governance becomes purely operationalThe philosophical crossroads ahead: outsourcing cognition vs. elevating human capacityHow empathy, devotion, and even love should shape the way we design and interact with technologyThree Connection PointsTranscend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AIFaisal’s websiteFaisal’s writing at Psychology TodayGetting to speak with Faisal reinforced something I’ve been thinking about for a long time: technology can extend what we do, but only we can determine who we become. AI may accelerate our output, sharpen our insights, and open new doors—but it can’t choose our purpose. That part remains ours. This conversation left me more convinced than ever that if we want a future worth inhabiting, we have to bring our humanity to the center of it.

This episode marks the final PM Talks conversation of the 2025 calendar year, and it’s a fitting one: Patrick and I explore legacy — not as something we engineer, but as something that unfolds in the stories others tell about us. As always, this episode is part of our monthly PM Talks series, and it might be the most reflective note we’ve ended on so far.We talk about time, presence, family, uncertainty, and the way small choices echo long after we’re gone. This one weaves philosophy into the everyday in a way that feels real, grounding, and honestly necessary as we close out the year.Six Discussion PointsWhy time feels like it’s accelerating as we age, and how presence slows the smaller slices of our daysThe balance between certainty and agency — and how we navigate what we do and don’t controlWhy trying to “control” your legacy is ultimately a losing battleHow stories — both true and inferred — shape the legacies we inherit and the ones we leaveThe importance of documenting your own story so others don’t have to invent one laterHow everyday tasks, decisions, and moments of presence quietly become the stories others use to remember usThree Connection PointsPatrick’s workThe Productivity DietOur episode on uncertaintyLegacy isn’t a monument — it’s a story, shaped by moments we’re often too busy to notice. This conversation reminded me that what endures isn’t the grand plan, but the small choices, the presence we bring, and the stories people choose to carry forward. Thanks for being with us through another year of PM Talks. There’s a lot more ahead in the next season.

Most of us think of sleep as a nightly event. Michael Breus thinks of it as a lifelong pattern—a shifting, evolving chronotype that changes as we age. Every time he joins me, we end up deep in the details of how rest, alertness, and biology shape our days. This conversation was no different.In this episode, Michael and I dig into the core ideas behind his book Sleep, Drink, Breathe, why wellness keeps getting more complicated, and how simple habits—done with intention—can create real momentum. We also get into mouth taping, CPAP myths, the rise of at-home sleep tests, and why hydration and breathwork may be more important than most people realize.Six Discussion PointsHow chronotypes shift as we age—and why both of us are noticing that shift right now.The three “dominoes” of wellness and why breathing and hydration often need fixing before sleep.Why wellness feels overwhelming today, and the simple starting points Michael recommends.The real science behind mouth taping and why it can be risky without proper screening.How home sleep testing has changed—and why diagnosing sleep apnea is easier than ever.The Sleep, Drink, Breathe plan and how small, steady habits build lifelong change.Three Connection PointsRead Sleep Drink Breathe: Simple Daily Habits for Profound Long-Term HealthGet Life Gives to the Giver by Joe PolishTake The Sleep QuizConversations with Michael always leave me thinking differently about how deeply biology shapes behaviour. His work reminds me that productivity isn’t a matter of pushing harder—it’s a matter of aligning with the rhythms that already exist. If you’re looking to simplify wellness, understand your changing chronotype, or build habits that actually last, this episode is a worthwhile listen.

In this episode of A Productive Conversation, I sit down with Quang X. Pham — entrepreneur, author, and the first American of Vietnamese descent to become a U.S. Marine Corps aviator. Quang’s story is the definition of an underdog’s rise — from a young refugee in America to leading a Nasdaq-listed biotech company. His new book, Underdog Nation: Zero in on Effort and Results for Success, captures the lessons learned through perseverance, purpose, and performance.Our conversation dives into what it truly means to be an underdog — not just in sports or business, but in life. We explore the power of confronting limitations, committing with conviction, and using adversity as fuel for achievement. Quang’s experiences in the Marine Corps, pharmaceutical industry, and biotech leadership bring nuance and depth to the conversation on resilience, effort, and results.Six Discussion PointsHow arriving in America as a 10-year-old refugee shaped Quang’s early understanding of effort and resultsLessons from his time as a U.S. Marine Corps aviator and how “reading the room” became a leadership skillWhy underdogs must balance confidence with humility — and learn to show up when no one’s watchingThe four “Avenues of Approach” from Underdog Nation: Commit, Confront, Course Correct, and Build CredibilityThe role of patience and decision-making in both biotech innovation and personal growthWhy ego and insecurity are the biggest internal battles underdogs face — and how to replace them with clarity and focusThree Connection PointsVisit Quang's websiteGet Quang's bookWhile you're buying Quang's book, buy Hugh MacLeod's book tooThis conversation reminded me that success isn’t about where you start — it’s about what you choose to confront, commit to, and continue refining. Quang’s story proves that perseverance and patience go hand-in-hand, and that results come to those who focus not on optics, but on outcomes.

This episode of A Productive Conversation features Chris Dalla Riva, a musician, data analyst, and Senior Product Manager at Audiomack who bridges the gap between creativity and analytics. Chris joins me to discuss his book Uncharted Territory: What Numbers Tell Us About the Biggest Hit Songs and Ourselves.As part of his research, Chris listened to every Billboard Hot 100 number-one song—nearly 1,200 of them—tracking trends, rating songs, and discovering how randomness, technology, and taste shape what becomes a hit. We explore the intersection of numbers and nuance, how data can deepen our understanding of art, and what the patterns of pop music reveal about us.Six Discussion PointsThe origin of Chris’s experiment to listen to every Billboard number-one hitWhy Bob Dylan never topped the Hot 100—and what that says about luck and timingHow data, subjectivity, and quality intertwine when rating songsThe cyclical nature of musical trends, from movies to TikTokThe uneasy relationship between music and technology—from Auto-Tune to AIWhy the album format—and vinyl—still matter in a streaming worldThree Connection PointsCheck out Chris's newsletterBuy Chris's bookRead Mike's essay, The Sound of TimeChris and I cover a lot of ground in this conversation—from Bob Dylan’s surprising chart record to the influence of AI on modern music. If you’ve ever wondered what hit songs say about culture, creativity, and ourselves, this episode hits all the right notes.