Dan Moren joins Jason to discuss folding iPhones, long individual takes in TV shows, new OS features, and what WWDC 2025 might really bring.

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Guest Starring:

Dan Moren

Links and Show Notes:

Dan and his lightsaber.

Jason and the USS Enterprise. Can you help him make a stand?

Jason and Captain Kirk Bear.

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