Our hosts come together to wrap up season 2 and share some of their highlights along the way.

Our trio expand and recap on some key topics covered over the last few months, Sally and Joël provide updates on their work with typescripts and LLMs, and Aji accidentally stumbles into an idea for a new keynote topic. 

—

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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Our hosts come together to wrap up season 2 and share some of their highlights along the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our trio expand and recap on some key topics covered over the last few months, Sally and Joël provide updates on their work with typescripts and LLMs, and Aji accidentally stumbles into an idea for a new keynote topic. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joël Quenneville&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sally Hall&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doodlingdev/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Aji Slater&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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 </description>

Our hosts come together to wrap up season 2 and share some of their highlights along the way.

498: Season 2 Recap

Aji and Joël get into a flow as they discuss the different diagrams that help guide their thought processes when working.

Together they compare their go to diagrams and why they find them so useful, the different analysis tools a diagram can offer and the alternative perspective on your work it provides, as well as how using diagrams can help communicate your mental models more effectively with your colleagues. 

—

Be sure to check out these resources on diagrams and conditionals for some wider reading on today’s episode - <a href="https://github.com/lukilabs/beautiful-mermaid" rel="nofollow">BeautifulMermaid Repo</a> - <a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/using-a-dependency-graph-to-visualize-rspec-let" rel="nofollow">Visualising RSepc</a> - <a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/structuring-conditionals-in-a-wizard" rel="nofollow">Structuring Conditionals</a>

You can also find our hosts speaking at various conferences over the next few months - <a href="https://haggisruby.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Haggis Ruby</a> - <a href="https://blueridgeruby.com" rel="nofollow">Blue Ridge Ruby</a>

Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow">Joël Quenneville</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doodlingdev/" rel="nofollow">Aji Slater</a>.

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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Aji and Joël get into a flow as they discuss the different diagrams that help guide their thought processes when working.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Together they compare their go to diagrams and why they find them so useful, the different analysis tools a diagram can offer and the alternative perspective on your work it provides, as well as how using diagrams can help communicate your mental models more effectively with your colleagues. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Be sure to check out these resources on diagrams and conditionals for some wider reading on today’s episode - &lt;a href="https://github.com/lukilabs/beautiful-mermaid" rel="nofollow"&gt;BeautifulMermaid Repo&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/using-a-dependency-graph-to-visualize-rspec-let" rel="nofollow"&gt;Visualising RSepc&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/structuring-conditionals-in-a-wizard" rel="nofollow"&gt;Structuring Conditionals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can also find our hosts speaking at various conferences over the next few months - &lt;a href="https://haggisruby.co.uk" rel="nofollow"&gt;Haggis Ruby&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://blueridgeruby.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Blue Ridge Ruby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joël Quenneville&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doodlingdev/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Aji Slater&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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 </description>

Aji and Joël get into a flow as they discuss the different diagrams that help guide their thought processes when working.

497: Diagrams we love

Joël and Sally cover all the bases as they look at improving their test suite performances times. 

Our hosts lay out some spicy takes on various different test suites, comparing the key differences across the different forms of testing, where you might encounter pitfalls in each method, and how to make the most of each test.

—

Interested in exploring different test suites to see if they could improve your projects? Check out these articles on everything our hosts discussed today, as well as Joël’s talk on slow tests. 

<a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/speed-up-tests-by-selectively-avoiding-factory-bot" rel="nofollow">Avoiding Factory Bot</a> - <a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/why-factories" rel="nofollow">Why Factories?</a> - <a href="https://github.com/grosser/parallel_tests" rel="nofollow">Parallelisation in Testing</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOlG4kqfwcg" rel="nofollow">Joël’s Talk</a>

Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow">Joël Quenneville</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow">Sally Hall</a>.

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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Joël and Sally cover all the bases as they look at improving their test suite performances times. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our hosts lay out some spicy takes on various different test suites, comparing the key differences across the different forms of testing, where you might encounter pitfalls in each method, and how to make the most of each test.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interested in exploring different test suites to see if they could improve your projects? Check out these articles on everything our hosts discussed today, as well as Joël’s talk on slow tests. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/speed-up-tests-by-selectively-avoiding-factory-bot" rel="nofollow"&gt;Avoiding Factory Bot&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/why-factories" rel="nofollow"&gt;Why Factories?&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://github.com/grosser/parallel_tests" rel="nofollow"&gt;Parallelisation in Testing&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOlG4kqfwcg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joël’s Talk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joël Quenneville&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sally Hall&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you would like to support the show, head over to our &lt;a href="https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot" rel="nofollow"&gt;GitHub page&lt;/a&gt;, or check out &lt;a href="https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;our website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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 </description>

Joël and Sally cover all the bases as they look at improving their test suite performances times. 

496: Test suite performance

Sally and Aji flick through thoughtbot’s guide to best practices in a bid to brush up on their coding habits. 

Our hosts discuss key ideas from the guides that stand out to them the most, why they’re considered to be good practice, as well as reviewing the cons of complex writing and the benefits of simple coding.

—

Be sure to check out <a href="https://github.com/thoughtbot/michel" rel="nofollow">Sally’s new repo Michel</a> if you’re looking to create an appointment database, and check out the <a href="https://github.com/thoughtbot/guides" rel="nofollow">thoughtbot guides for more general coding advice</a>. 

If you’ve got some spare time and want to hear Aji’s talk on <a href="https://youtu.be/KrLVIf-pS4g?si=BV7GjzliNUjdKEKS" rel="nofollow">breaking the enigma code you can watch that here</a>.

Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow">Sally Hall</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doodlingdev/" rel="nofollow">Aji Slater</a>.

If you would like to support the show, head over to our <a href="https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot" rel="nofollow">GitHub page</a>, or check out <a href="https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com" rel="nofollow">our website</a>.

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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Sally and Aji flick through thoughtbot’s guide to best practices in a bid to brush up on their coding habits. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our hosts discuss key ideas from the guides that stand out to them the most, why they’re considered to be good practice, as well as reviewing the cons of complex writing and the benefits of simple coding.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Be sure to check out &lt;a href="https://github.com/thoughtbot/michel" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sally’s new repo Michel&lt;/a&gt; if you’re looking to create an appointment database, and check out the &lt;a href="https://github.com/thoughtbot/guides" rel="nofollow"&gt;thoughtbot guides for more general coding advice&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you’ve got some spare time and want to hear Aji’s talk on &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/KrLVIf-pS4g?si=BV7GjzliNUjdKEKS" rel="nofollow"&gt;breaking the enigma code you can watch that here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sally Hall&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doodlingdev/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Aji Slater&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you would like to support the show, head over to our &lt;a href="https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot" rel="nofollow"&gt;GitHub page&lt;/a&gt;, or check out &lt;a href="https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;our website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: &lt;a href="mailto:hosts@bikeshed.fm" rel="nofollow"&gt;hosts@bikeshed.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;© 2026 thoughtbot, inc.&lt;/p&gt;
 </description>

Sally and Aji flick through thoughtbot’s guide to best practices in a bid to brush up on their coding habits.  

495: A shortcut to years of experience

Joël and Sally examine the simpler components of programming and why using basic data structures may not always be the best approach to solving a problem.

Our hosts cover all the telltale signs and symptoms of primitive obsession, what it is, it’s drawbacks and limitations, and how to avoid it creeping into your own work.

—

Want to learn more about primitive obsession and readability in programming? Check out these links for some wider reading, <a href="https://youtu.be/WnTw0z7rD3E?si=UnR8_0pVy8wAzTxL" rel="nofollow">including a talk from Joël!</a> - <a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/design-patterns-in-the-wild-null-object" rel="nofollow">Design Patterns and Null</a> - <a href="https://thoughtbot.com/upcase/videos/primitive-obsession" rel="nofollow">thoughtbot blog on primitive obsession</a> - <a href="https://chelseatroy.com/2021/06/28/the-siren-song-of-the-user-model/" rel="nofollow">Define User</a>

Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow">Joël Quenneville</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow">Sally Hall</a>.

If you would like to support the show, head over to our <a href="https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot" rel="nofollow">GitHub page</a>, or check out <a href="https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com" rel="nofollow">our website</a>.

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<description>
 &lt;p&gt;Joël and Sally examine the simpler components of programming and why using basic data structures may not always be the best approach to solving a problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our hosts cover all the telltale signs and symptoms of primitive obsession, what it is, it’s drawbacks and limitations, and how to avoid it creeping into your own work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Want to learn more about primitive obsession and readability in programming? Check out these links for some wider reading, &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/WnTw0z7rD3E?si=UnR8_0pVy8wAzTxL" rel="nofollow"&gt;including a talk from Joël!&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/design-patterns-in-the-wild-null-object" rel="nofollow"&gt;Design Patterns and Null&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://thoughtbot.com/upcase/videos/primitive-obsession" rel="nofollow"&gt;thoughtbot blog on primitive obsession&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="https://chelseatroy.com/2021/06/28/the-siren-song-of-the-user-model/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Define User&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your hosts for this episode have been thoughtbot’s own &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joël Quenneville&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallyannahall" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sally Hall&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you would like to support the show, head over to our &lt;a href="https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot" rel="nofollow"&gt;GitHub page&lt;/a&gt;, or check out &lt;a href="https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;our website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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 </description>

Joël and Sally examine the simpler components of programming and why using basic data structures may not always be the best approach to solving a problem.

494: Primitive Obsession

On The Bike Shed, hosts Joël Quenneville, Sally Hall, and Aji Slater discuss development experiences and challenges at thoughtbot with Ruby, Rails, JavaScript, and whatever else is drawing their attention, admiration, or ire this week.


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