Convo By Design®
Convo By Design®

Convo By Design®

Josh Cooperman

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A podcast dedicated to promoting the ideas of architects, artists, designers, tastemakers and those making a difference in the way we live. Design is personal as is a good conversation. Copyright © Fusion Media, Inc. 2013-2025 All rights reserved.

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Creativity in the Age of Screens: Craft, Credibility, and the Changing Nature of Practice | 634 | Amy Courtney, Amy Courtney Design
JAN 20, 2026
Creativity in the Age of Screens: Craft, Credibility, and the Changing Nature of Practice | 634 | Amy Courtney, Amy Courtney Design
<p>The design industry has changed more in the past five years than in the previous two decades. In this episode, Amy Courtney and I unpack how technology, social media, and shifting client expectations have transformed the way designers work, communicate, and create. From in-person collaboration to photography, craftsmanship, and professional credibility, the conversation explores what it really means to practice design today.</p> <p>A candid discussion about design after 2020, the rise of digital culture, evolving client behavior, and why experience still matters more than visibility.</p> <p><b>Designer Resources</b><b></b></p> <p><a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/electronics/pacific-sales/pcmcat249300050012.c?id=pcmcat249300050012">Pacific Sales Kitchen and Home</a>. Where excellence meets expertise.</p> <p><a href="http://designhardware.com/">Design Hardware</a> &#8211; A stunning and vast collection of jewelry for the home!</p> <p><a href="https://www.timbertech.com/">TimberTech</a> &#8211; Real wood beauty without the upkeep</p> <p>I sat down with designer Amy Courtney and together, we are going to examine how dramatically the design industry has shifted since 2020—and what those changes mean for designers, clients, and the creative process itself. What began as a necessity during the pandemic has evolved into a permanent shift in how projects are managed, communicated, and perceived.</p> <p>The conversation opens with how in-person collaboration has largely been replaced by screens, emails, and digital presentations. While technology has made certain aspects of design more efficient, it has also introduced new challenges: endless email threads, over-reliance on links and screenshots, and a growing disconnect between how spaces are discussed and how they are actually experienced. Both speakers reflect on the loss of face-to-face interaction and how it has altered everything from client relationships to decision-making.</p> <p>From there, the discussion moves into how design has become more visible—and more misunderstood—than ever before. With social media and image-driven platforms shaping expectations, clients often arrive with highly specific visual references but little understanding of how those ideas translate into real-world construction. The conversation explores how designers now spend much of their time educating clients, explaining limitations, and helping them understand the difference between inspiration and execution.</p> <p>Photography plays a major role in this shift. Where designers once photographed only select projects, today’s market pressures encourage constant documentation. The episode unpacks the financial and creative cost of professional photography, the tension between editorial standards and reality, and how images can sometimes misrepresent how spaces actually function. The discussion also touches on how publication expectations and sponsorships can influence what gets shown—and what gets left out.</p> <p>Another central theme is the difference between designers and tastemakers. Courtney and I examine how social platforms have blurred professional lines, allowing anyone with a strong aesthetic to claim authority. We discuss the growing confusion this creates for clients and the importance of experience, education, and technical understanding in producing successful projects. While inspiration is everywhere, execution still requires training, judgment, and accountability.</p> <p>The episode also dives into the influence of upbringing and mentorship. From growing up around construction and craftsmanship to learning directly from tradespeople, the conversation highlights how hands-on experience shapes a designer’s confidence and decision-making. This background, combined with curiosity and respect for process, becomes the foundation for meaningful work.</p> <p>The conversation closes with a reflection on credibility, creativity, and the responsibility designers have to guide clients honestly. In a culture driven by speed and visibility, the episode argues for a return to thoughtful process, clear communication, and design rooted in real-world understanding.</p> <ul> <li>How design practice has changed since 2020</li> <li>The impact of remote work and screen-based communication</li> <li>Photography, social media, and shifting industry expectations</li> <li>The difference between designers and tastemakers</li> <li>Client education and managing unrealistic inspiration</li> <li>The value of construction knowledge and hands-on experience</li> <li>Navigating publication standards and editorial pressure</li> <li>Why credibility and process still matter</li> </ul> <p>Design has never been more visible—or more misunderstood. As technology reshapes how people engage with spaces and professionals, the role of the designer has become both more complex and more essential. This episode makes the case for slowing down, valuing experience, and remembering that great design is built on knowledge, intention, and trust—not algorithms or aesthetics alone.</p>
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72 MIN
WestEdge Wednesday Part Two |  633 | Creative Burnout: The Rules for Thriving & Evolving in Chaotic Times
JAN 14, 2026
WestEdge Wednesday Part Two | 633 | Creative Burnout: The Rules for Thriving & Evolving in Chaotic Times
<p>At WestEdge, a panel of accomplished designers opened up about the emotional highs and lows of a career in creative design. The conversation delved into the toll that challenging clients can take, emphasizing that boundaries are not just beneficial but necessary for longevity in the industry. Panelists reflected on early career experiences, noting that optimism and the desire to see the best in clients can sometimes lead to depletion when projects are mismatched. These stories reinforced the idea that learning to say “no” and choosing the right clients is both a practical and emotional necessity. Beyond client challenges, the panel explored ways designers replenish their creative energy. Travel, flea markets, and tactile art projects, such as creating feathered artworks or doodling with Sharpies on rocks, were highlighted as powerful methods to reconnect with the craft. Attendees also shared experiences with artist dates, personal excursions that nurture inspiration outside work routines. For many, small, seemingly mundane moments—like walking barefoot on the beach or exploring museum exhibits—serve as vital opportunities to recharge. Central to the discussion was the notion of hope and intention in design. Designers are not only crafting spaces but facilitating transformative experiences for their clients. From arranging reveal days to curating details that clients cannot yet envision, designers play a key role in shaping both the aesthetic and emotional outcome of a home. These moments, when clients recognize the thought and care embedded in every choice, provide a profound sense of validation and joy for the designer. Technology emerged as both a boon and a challenge. Tools like Google Banana Nano and reverse image searches empower clients but can also accelerate expectations, requiring designers to continually adapt. To maintain balance, panelists suggested strategies such as phone lockboxes, one-word reset practices (e.g., travel, camping, art), and engaging in the tactile and analog experiences that digital feeds cannot replicate. Magazines were championed as a crucial resource in the digital age, offering tactile, spontaneous inspiration that cannot be algorithmically curated. They allow designers to explore beyond the bounds of client constraints and rediscover creative joy in a medium that encourages discovery and reflection. Ultimately, the WestEdge panel underscored the importance of integrating self-care, boundaries, and intentional creative practices into the professional life of a designer. Burnout is inevitable at times, but with mindfulness, grounding practices, and opportunities to reconnect with the joy of creation, designers can sustain their passion and continue to deliver transformative experiences for their clients. The panel left attendees with actionable insights and inspiration to navigate the demanding yet rewarding world of design. About: Convo By Design is a platform designed to share and promote the ideas of those shaping design and architecture today. We provide inspiration to the design and architecture community. In constant pursuit of sublime design. ©2013-2026 Subscribe to the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/c&#8230; https://www.convobydesign.com</p>
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Design With Intention: Antiques, Process, and the Art of Creating Meaningful Spaces | 632 | Kristin Mullen, Kristen Mullen Designs
JAN 13, 2026
Design With Intention: Antiques, Process, and the Art of Creating Meaningful Spaces | 632 | Kristin Mullen, Kristen Mullen Designs
<p>Design is more than aesthetics—it’s about understanding how people live, move, and connect with their spaces. In this episode, Kristin Mullen and I explore how sourcing, observation, and thoughtful decision-making shape interiors that feel authentic and functional. From Round Top to kitchen design to client relationships, the conversation reveals why the best work begins with listening and ends with purpose.</p> <p><b>Designer Resources</b><b></b></p> <p><a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/electronics/pacific-sales/pcmcat249300050012.c?id=pcmcat249300050012">Pacific Sales Kitchen and Home</a>. Where excellence meets expertise.</p> <p><a href="http://designhardware.com/">Design Hardware</a> &#8211; A stunning and vast collection of jewelry for the home!</p> <p><a href="https://www.timbertech.com/">TimberTech</a> &#8211; Real wood beauty without the upkeep</p> <p>A thoughtful conversation on antiques, design philosophy, client trust, and why the most successful spaces are built on intention rather than trends. You are going to hear from designer Kristin Mullen. We&#8217;re exploring the deeper thinking behind successful interior design—where process, perspective, and human behavior matter as much as aesthetics. The conversation opens with a discussion of the Round Top Antiques Show, which Kristin describes as an essential destination for designers seeking character, craftsmanship, and pieces with history. While digital sourcing has its place, both agree that nothing replaces the experience of seeing and understanding objects in person. Round Top, in particular, offers an immersive environment that encourages discovery, education, and creative connection.</p> <p>From there, the conversation turns inward, examining how a designer’s background and worldview shape their approach. Kristin shares how her early training in speech and language pathology sharpened her ability to read clients, recognize unspoken preferences, and interpret behavior—skills that now inform every project she takes on. That sensitivity, paired with her passion for antiques, results in spaces that feel layered, personal, and grounded in story rather than surface-level trends.</p> <p>A central theme throughout the episode is redefining what “value” means in design. Josh and Kristin challenge the idea that good design is about price or status. Instead, they discuss how meaningful spaces come from clarity, intention, and thoughtful editing. The role of the designer, they explain, is often to simplify—helping clients focus on what truly matters and guiding them away from choices that don’t support how they actually live.</p> <p>The conversation naturally moves into kitchens, where function and behavior intersect most clearly. From layout and stone selection to lighting and storage, Josh and Kristin explore how small decisions can dramatically affect daily life. They discuss the importance of planning for real habits rather than idealized ones, and how photographic trends often misrepresent how spaces are actually used. The evolution of kitchen design, they note, reflects broader changes in how homes function as multi-use environments.</p> <p>The episode also touches on the business and sourcing side of design. Kristin shares insights into working with European antiques and the growing challenges presented by tariffs and shipping costs. Josh adds perspective on the potential return to small-scale, locally made craftsmanship, suggesting that the industry may be entering a period where quality, story, and intention carry more weight than volume or speed.</p> <p>Throughout the conversation, one idea remains consistent: strong design is rooted in trust. Open communication, clear expectations, and honest dialogue between designer and client create better outcomes for everyone involved. When people feel heard and understood, the results are spaces that not only look good—but function beautifully over time. You are going to hear all about it, right after this.</p> <p>Great design isn’t about excess or trends—it’s about intention, understanding, and care. When designers take the time to observe how people truly live and guide them through thoughtful decisions, the result is a space that feels authentic, functional, and deeply personal. This episode makes the case for slowing down, asking better questions, and designing with purpose at the center.</p>
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73 MIN
WestEdge Wednesday Part One | 631 | Home Again: How the Palisades is Reclaiming its Future
JAN 7, 2026
WestEdge Wednesday Part One | 631 | Home Again: How the Palisades is Reclaiming its Future
<p>Since areas of Los Angeles, entire communities burned to the ground in January, 2025, the world around us has jumped in with opinions on how to rebuild.  Moderated by: Allison Holdorff Polhill, LAUSDFeaturing: Reza Akef, Polaris Homes; Sue Kohl, Pacific Palisades Community Council; Ron Marome, Fleetwood Windows and Doors; Rob Jernigan, Clayco; May Sung, SUBU Design Architecture; and Matt Talley , AECOM I made a promise to those in attendance that I would do my homework and find resources, phone numbers, contacts… And I have. It’s voluminous but you will find many of these links in the show notes of this episode. I will also continue to dig and share my findings on Instagram so please follow along. Convo X Design and email me if you would like more information and resource contacts. Convo By Design at Outlook dot com. Key Agencies &amp; Contacts for Rebuild / Recovery in Pacific Palisades 1. City of Los Angeles Los Angeles City Planning Palisades Rebuild &amp; Recovery Team — Email: [email protected] City Planning+1 One‑Stop Rebuilding Center (city permit center): 1828 Sawtelle Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025 City Planning+1 Departments represented at the One‑Stop: LADBS (Building &amp; Safety) City Planning Bureau of Engineering (BOE) City Planning StreetsLA / Urban Forestry City Planning LADWP (Water &amp; Power) City Planning LADOT (Transportation) City Planning LAFD (Fire Department) City Planning LA Housing Department (LAHD) City Planning LA Sanitation and Environment (LASAN) City Planning Bureau of Contract Administration (BCA) City Planning SoCalGas (utility) City Planning Los Angeles Emergency Management Department For recovery inquiries: [email protected] L.A. Emergency Management Their 2025 Wildfire Recovery page includes resources for disaster‑rebuild. L.A. Emergency Management Mayor’s Office – Resilient Rebuild Advisory Committee Under Emergency Executive Order 5 (2025), a Resilient Rebuild Advisory Committee was established. Los Angeles Mayor&#8217;s Office 2. Los Angeles County (for areas in the County jurisdiction) LA County Recovers Main Recovery Website: recovery.lacounty.gov LA County Recovers Public Works Hotline (for rebuilding / debris): 844‑347‑3332 LA County Recovers+1 Fire Debris Removal Permit: call 888‑479‑7328 for fire debris removal help. LA County Recovers LA County Public Works – Building &amp; Safety Contact for building, grading, and drainage issues: via their offices. LA County Public Works Geotechnical &amp; Materials Engineering (soils, geology): (626) 458‑4925 LA County Public Works Fire Prevention (County Fire): LACoFD Headquarters (323) 890‑4132 LA County Public Works LA County Department of Regional Planning Zoning, planning, rebuilding permitting: (213) 974‑6411 LA County Public Works The “Road to Rebuilding” program provides one-on-one concierge appointments (Public Works / Planning / Fire / Public Health) for Palisades rebuilding. LA County Public Works LA County Environmental Health For septic system (onsite wastewater) approvals: contact the Onsite Wastewater Treatment System (OWTS) team via Public Health. LA County Public Works Water “Will‑Serve” letter (potable water) – Drinking Water Program: required for some rebuilds. LA County Public Works LA County Assessor’s Office For tax reassessment after fire damage (“Misfortune &amp; Calamity”): call (213) 974‑8658. LA County Recovers State / Federal Agencies California Office of Emergency Services (Cal OES) As a major state-level emergency agency, they coordinate recovery resources. (Generic contact: via caloes.ca.gov) Gather ADU Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) For disaster assistance (debris removal, housing, financial help): contact FEMA at 1-800-621-3362 for general assistance. Gather ADU U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (for debris removal specifically): their LA mission office is reachable; per FEMA, call center 213‑308‑8305. FEMA Recommended Approach / Strategy Start at the One‑Stop Rebuilding Center (LA City or County as applicable) — this gives you a “concierge” experience with multiple departments in one place. Follow up with direct department emails (e.g., Planning, Public Works) for specialized issues (soils, septic, fire‑safety). Use FEMA / CalOES early — get registered for federal/state disaster relief. Engage community‑based networks (ENLA, local recovery groups) — they often have the most up-to-date, local practical advice. Document everything — keep track of all contacts, permit numbers, and correspondence. Additional Information will be posted to the Convo By Design website. Convo By Design is a platform designed to share and promote the ideas of those shaping design and architecture today. We provide inspiration to the design and architecture community. In constant pursuit of sublime design. ©2013-2026 https://www.convobydesign.com</p>
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Design After Disruption | 630 | How We Live Now—and Why Process Matters More Than Ever LIVE From Pacific Sales Kitchen & Home
JAN 6, 2026
Design After Disruption | 630 | How We Live Now—and Why Process Matters More Than Ever LIVE From Pacific Sales Kitchen & Home
<p>Late last year, I moderated an event hosted by Pacific Sales Kitchen &amp; Home with the goal of breaking down kitchen desires and needs of todays well informed and demanding design clients. You would think this is an easy conversation to have. I assembled an all star cast of design and architecture talent for an incredible conversation. One that you might want to save and re-listen every now and then.</p> <p>Late last year, I moderated an event hosted by Pacific Sales Kitchen &amp; Home with the goal of breaking down kitchen desires and needs of todays well informed and demanding design clients. You would think this is an easy conversation to have. I assembled an all star cast of design and architecture talent for an incredible conversation. One that you might want to save and re-listen every now and then.</p> <p>At Pacific Sales Kitchen &amp; Home in Torrance, leading architects, designers, and industry specialists gathered to examine how pandemic-era shifts, rising client expectations, and rapid product innovation are reshaping the future of kitchens and baths. Their insights reveal an industry moving beyond trend talk toward highly personalized, wellness-driven, and performance-first design.</p> <p>The kitchen is no longer just a workspace, and the primary bath is no longer just a retreat. Over the past five years, these rooms have become emotional anchors, wellness centers, hospitality zones, tech platforms, and reflections of how people believe they should live. At Pacific Sales Kitchen &amp; Home in Torrance, a cross-section of the industry’s leading voices came together to discuss how the profession is adapting—and what clients now expect designers to deliver.</p> <p>For <b>Sayler Design Studio</b> founder <b>Beth Sayler</b> (https://saylorstudio.com), the shift is rooted in emotion. After years of pandemic-related uncertainty, material shortages, and insurance-driven rebuilds, clients want spaces that feel personal, restorative, and meaningful. Her projects now lean into “experience design,” where primary suites might include refrigeration drawers, espresso stations, integrated audio, and hospitality-level details. Her biggest tool is expectation-setting—helping clients redefine what’s realistic, what’s essential, and what will ultimately make them feel at home again.</p> <p>Architect <b>Luis Escalera</b> of <b>LMD Architecture Studio</b> (https://www.lmdarchitecturestudio.com) experiences the evolution through the lens of constraints. Small lots, stricter codes, and the ongoing battle between mandated electrification and client cooking preferences require tight onboarding, detailed questionnaires, and careful translation of desires to built form. The modern kitchen triangle now includes the deck, yard, and pool—one interconnected lifestyle zone that must function as a unified system.</p> <p>For <b>Jessica Nicastro Design</b> (<a href="https://www.jessicanicastrodesign.com/">https://www.jessicanicastrodesign.com</a>), the challenge is volatility. Pricing, tariffs, and supply chains remain inconsistent, making early builder involvement essential. Her firm works to recalibrate what clients think they want—often shaped by social media—into spaces appropriate to the home, lifestyle, and budget. Transparency and trust have become the designer’s most valuable currency.</p> <p>At <b>Laney LA</b> (<a href="https://www.laney.la/">https://www.laney.la</a>), designer <b>Michelle Her</b> sees a growing demand for wellness integration: whole-home RO systems, chromotherapy, therapeutic water pressure, and recovery spaces designed with the same rigor once reserved for kitchens. Their philosophy—“the best idea wins”—creates an environment where architecture, interiors, and engineering collaborate fluidly to support elevated living.</p> <p>Representing the host venue, <b>Pacific Sales Kitchen &amp; Home</b> (<a href="https://www.pacificsales.com/">https://www.pacificsales.com</a>) showcased the power of specialized knowledge. Trade leaders <b>Verzine Hovasapyan</b> and <b>Juan Pantoja</b> describe a client landscape with no single standard—making customization and education critical. Manufacturer immersion programs ensure staff can guide clients through increasingly complex appliances and smarter home ecosystems, offering a level of service no online retailer can match.</p> <p>Designer <b>Shanna Shryne</b> of <b>Shanna Shryne Design</b> (<a href="https://www.shannashryne.com/">https://www.shannashryne.com</a>) emphasized lifestyle-first programming. Outdoor kitchens, in particular, require multi-disciplinary collaboration—interiors, landscape architecture, and systems integration—to achieve unified performance. Complexity, she argues, demands partnership rather than lone-wolf generalists.</p> <p>Finally, <b>RHG Architecture + Design</b> founder <b>Rachel Grachowski</b> (<a href="https://www.rhgdesign.com/">https://www.rhgdesign.com</a>) and <b>Hudson Home Interior Design</b> principal <b>Shelly Hudson</b> (https://www.hudsonhomeinteriors.com) highlighted biophilia, natural light, and personalized ergonomics as the next frontiers. From adjustable counter heights to dedicated recovery rooms, the home is becoming a hybrid of spa, laboratory, and living space.</p> <p>Taken together, their perspectives reveal a profession not following trends but redefining standards—one kitchen, one bath, one wellness ecosystem at a time.</p> <p><b>Design After Disruption: How We Live Now—and Why Process Matters More Than Ever</b></p> <p>The pandemic didn’t just change where we work—it redefined how we live, gather, and experience our homes. In this episode, designers and industry experts explore how COVID accelerated shifts in lifestyle, technology, and client expectations, forcing a fundamental rethink of residential design. From wellness and personalization to process and trust, this conversation reveals why great design today begins long before materials are selected.</p> <p>A wide-ranging conversation about how post-pandemic living reshaped residential design, why understanding behavior matters more than trends, and how slowing the process leads to better, more meaningful homes.</p> <p>Today, we examine the profound shift in how people relate to their homes—and how designers have had to evolve in response. What began as a temporary adjustment during the pandemic became a lasting transformation: homes turned into offices, classrooms, social hubs, and sanctuaries, often all at once.</p> <p>As a result, clients now arrive more informed, more opinionated, and more influenced by social media than ever before. But with that access comes confusion. The conversation explores how designers increasingly serve as educators and translators—helping clients filter inspiration, understand trade-offs, and make decisions rooted in how they actually live rather than how a space looks online.</p> <p>The discussion moves beyond aesthetics into behavior: how families gather, how kitchens function, how storage works, and how subtle design decisions impact daily life. From kitchen planning and furniture layout to the psychology of comfort and the importance of workflow, the episode highlights why the smallest details often matter most.</p> <p>A central theme emerges around process. Thoughtful design requires slowing down, asking better questions, and resisting the pressure for instant gratification. Whether it’s understanding how a family entertains, how they cook, or how they want to feel in their home, the best outcomes come from listening first—and designing second.</p> <p><b>1. Life After COVID: A Permanent Shift</b></p> <ul> <li>How the pandemic changed expectations around home design</li> <li>The rise of multifunctional spaces</li> <li>Why the home is now both personal and professional</li> </ul> <p><b>2. Social Media’s Influence on Design Culture</b></p> <ul> <li>The upside and downside of endless inspiration</li> <li>Why clients arrive more informed—but often overwhelmed</li> <li>Separating aspiration from practicality</li> </ul> <p><b>3. Designing for Real Life</b></p> <ul> <li>Understanding how people actually use their homes</li> <li>Why square footage means nothing without function</li> <li>Designing for habits, not hypotheticals</li> </ul> <p><b>4. The Role of the Designer Has Changed</b></p> <ul> <li>From decorator to strategist</li> <li>Educating clients through experience and data</li> <li>Acting as a guide through complex decisions</li> </ul> <p><b>5. The Importance of the Kickoff Process</b></p> <ul> <li>Why the first conversations matter most</li> <li>Learning how clients live before proposing solutions</li> <li>Creating clarity through dialogue, not questionnaires</li> </ul> <p><b>6. Kitchens as Behavioral Maps</b></p> <ul> <li>Storage, workflow, and daily rituals</li> <li>Why drawers often matter more than appliances</li> <li>Designing around how people actually cook and gather</li> </ul> <p><b>7. Slowing the Process to Improve Outcomes</b></p> <ul> <li>Resisting the urge for instant answers</li> <li>Why design is both art and structured process</li> <li>Helping clients avoid regret through thoughtful planning</li> </ul> <p><b>8. Trust, Education &amp; Long-Term Value</b></p> <ul> <li>Helping clients understand what they don’t yet know</li> <li>Using experience and precedent to guide decisions</li> <li>Designing homes that evolve with the people in them</li> </ul> <p>Great design isn’t about trends, finishes, or fast decisions—it’s about understanding people and tailoring functional design to their lifestyle. This episode reinforces a simple truth: when designers take the time to listen, observe, and educate, the result is not just a better-looking home, but one that truly supports the lives lived inside it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>
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123 MIN