So many people are leaving Apple that it's a wonder it can still function with only 164,000 employees. But it's still bringing out new iPads, while Pebble has a smart ring, and the legend of Snow Leopard is back again.Contact your hosts:<ul><li><a href="https://www.threads.net/@williamgallagher_">@williamgallagher_ on Threads</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/wgallagher">@WGallagher on Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/WilliamGallagher">William's 58keys on YouTube</a></li><li><a href="mailto:william@appleinsider.com">William Gallagher on email</a></li><li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/hilli.tech">Wes on Bluesky</a></li><li><a href="mailto:wes@appleinsider.com">Wes Hilliard on emai</a>l</li></ul>Sponsored by:<ul><li>CleanMyMac by MacPaw: Get Tidy Today! 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<li>(40:30) - New iPads</li>
<li>(47:58) - Pebble smart ring</li>
<li>(58:17) - Controversy Corner</li>
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 &lt;p&gt;So many people are leaving Apple that it's a wonder it can still function with only 164,000 employees. 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&lt;li&gt;(00:54) - Exit stage left&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:55) - Lisa Jackson and Kate Adams&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:30) - New iPads&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:58) - Pebble smart ring&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(58:17) - Controversy Corner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:06:28) - Snow Leopard&lt;/li&gt;
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