<description>&lt;p&gt;Schools are racing to write AI policies, but what if the policy is not the first step? This week, we hear from &lt;strong&gt;Aleta Margolis&lt;/strong&gt;, founder and president of the Center for Inspired Teaching, who argues that real progress starts with a conversation, not a rule. Then EdSurge editor-in-chief &lt;strong&gt;Sarah McKibben&lt;/strong&gt; brings it home with what AI actually looks like at her kitchen table, with two middle schoolers navigating it in real time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What You'll Learn&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;A new RAND American Youth Panel survey found that only about one in three students say their school has a school-wide AI policy, and Aleta Margolis of the Center for Inspired Teaching explains why co-creating guidelines with students leads to better outcomes than top-down rule-making.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A recent NPR and Ipsos poll found that 54 percent of teachers say AI is making it harder for students to learn critical thinking skills, and nearly three in four believe its impact on education will exceed that of the internet or computers.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sarah McKibben describes the mix of productive and concerning AI use she sees with her own children, including a student using an AI humanizer app to avoid plagiarism detection when submitting AI-written essays.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Both guests converge on the idea of productive struggle: the concern is not AI itself but whether students are learning to think with it rather than bypassing the thinking entirely.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stories Mentioned in This Episode&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.edsurge.com/news/2026-06-03-what-to-do-about-ai-begin-by-talking-about-it" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;What to Do About AI: Begin by Talking About It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt; by Aleta Margolis&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;NPR / Ipsos Poll: &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/06/05/nx-s1-5779757/school-ai-education-students-teachers-poll-critical-thinking" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Teachers on AI and Critical Thinking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;RAND American Youth Panel: &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA4742-1.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Select Findings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Upcoming Event&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://conference.iste.org/2026/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;ISTE+ASCD Live '26&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt; in Orlando, Florida&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Stay Connected&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe to EdSurge newsletters at &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://edsurge.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;edsurge.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Latest education news at &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://edsurge.com/news" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;edsurge.com/news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Follow EdSurge:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/edsurge/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/edsurge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;X&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/EdSurge/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@edsurgenews" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/edsurge/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/EdSurge" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Host &amp;amp; Contributors&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hosted by &lt;/strong&gt;Ira Apfel, Editorial Director, EdSurge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Featuring&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Aleta Margolis, Founder and President, &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://inspiredteaching.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Center for Inspired Teaching&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sarah McKibben, Editor-in-Chief, EdSurge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stay informed, stay curious.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This Week with EdSurge

EdSurge Podcast

Your Kids Know More About AI Than You Do

JUN 17, 202623 MIN
This Week with EdSurge

Your Kids Know More About AI Than You Do

JUN 17, 202623 MIN

Description

Schools are racing to write AI policies, but what if the policy is not the first step? This week, we hear from Aleta Margolis, founder and president of the Center for Inspired Teaching, who argues that real progress starts with a conversation, not a rule. Then EdSurge editor-in-chief Sarah McKibben brings it home with what AI actually looks like at her kitchen table, with two middle schoolers navigating it in real time.What You'll LearnA new RAND American Youth Panel survey found that only about one in three students say their school has a school-wide AI policy, and Aleta Margolis of the Center for Inspired Teaching explains why co-creating guidelines with students leads to better outcomes than top-down rule-making.A recent NPR and Ipsos poll found that 54 percent of teachers say AI is making it harder for students to learn critical thinking skills, and nearly three in four believe its impact on education will exceed that of the internet or computers.Sarah McKibben describes the mix of productive and concerning AI use she sees with her own children, including a student using an AI humanizer app to avoid plagiarism detection when submitting AI-written essays.Both guests converge on the idea of productive struggle: the concern is not AI itself but whether students are learning to think with it rather than bypassing the thinking entirely.Stories Mentioned in This EpisodeWhat to Do About AI: Begin by Talking About It by Aleta MargolisNPR / Ipsos Poll: Teachers on AI and Critical ThinkingRAND American Youth Panel: Select FindingsUpcoming EventISTE+ASCD Live '26 in Orlando, FloridaStay ConnectedSubscribe to EdSurge newsletters at edsurge.comLatest education news at edsurge.com/newsFollow EdSurge:LinkedInXFacebookTikTokInstagramYouTubeHost & ContributorsHosted by Ira Apfel, Editorial Director, EdSurgeFeaturingAleta Margolis, Founder and President, Center for Inspired TeachingSarah McKibben, Editor-in-Chief, EdSurgeStay informed, stay curious.