A lot of people building software today never took the traditional CS path. They arrived through curiosity, a job that needed automating, or a late-night itch to make something work. This week, David Kopec joins me to talk about rebuilding computer science for exactly those folks, the ones who learned to program first and are now ready to understand the deeper ideas that power the tools they use every day.<br/> <br/> <strong>Episode sponsors</strong><br/> <br/> <a href='https://talkpython.fm/sentry'>Sentry Error Monitoring, Code TALKPYTHON</a><br> <a href='https://talkpython.fm/nordstellar'>NordStellar</a><br> <a href='https://talkpython.fm/training'>Talk Python Courses</a><br/> <br/> <h2 class="links-heading mb-4">Links from the show</h2> <div><strong>David Kopec</strong>: <a href="https://davekopec.com?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >davekopec.com</a><br/> <strong>Classic Computer Science Book</strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Computer-Science-Problems-Python/dp/1617295981?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >amazon.com</a><br/> <strong>Computer Science from Scratch Book</strong>: <a href="https://computersciencefromscratch.com?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >computersciencefromscratch.com</a><br/> <strong>Computer Science from Scratch at NoStartch (CSFS30 for 30% off)</strong>: <a href="https://nostarch.com/computer-science-from-scratch?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >nostarch.com</a><br/> <br/> <strong>Watch this episode on YouTube</strong>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVQOoD6cZmg" target="_blank" >youtube.com</a><br/> <strong>Episode #529 deep-dive</strong>: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/episodes/show/529/computer-science-from-scratch#takeaways-anchor" target="_blank" >talkpython.fm/529</a><br/> <strong>Episode transcripts</strong>: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/episodes/transcript/529/computer-science-from-scratch" target="_blank" >talkpython.fm</a><br/> <br/> <strong>Theme Song: Developer Rap</strong><br/> <strong>🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸</strong>: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/flasksong" target="_blank" >talkpython.fm/flasksong</a><br/> <br/> <strong>---== Don't be a stranger ==---</strong><br/> <strong>YouTube</strong>: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/youtube" target="_blank" ><i class="fa-brands fa-youtube"></i> youtube.com/@talkpython</a><br/> <br/> <strong>Bluesky</strong>: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/talkpython.fm" target="_blank" >@talkpython.fm</a><br/> <strong>Mastodon</strong>: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/web/@talkpython" target="_blank" ><i class="fa-brands fa-mastodon"></i> @[email protected]</a><br/> <strong>X.com</strong>: <a href="https://x.com/talkpython" target="_blank" ><i class="fa-brands fa-twitter"></i> @talkpython</a><br/> <br/> <strong>Michael on Bluesky</strong>: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mkennedy.codes?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >@mkennedy.codes</a><br/> <strong>Michael on Mastodon</strong>: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/web/@mkennedy" target="_blank" ><i class="fa-brands fa-mastodon"></i> @[email protected]</a><br/> <strong>Michael on X.com</strong>: <a href="https://x.com/mkennedy?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" ><i class="fa-brands fa-twitter"></i> @mkennedy</a><br/></div>