<p>This week we are joined by the incomparable Zena Sharman (she/her). Zena is an essayist and non-fiction writer who is a fan and student of the film <em>9 to 5</em> (1980). If you don't know the movie, you almost certainly know the song of the same name written and performed by one of its stars, Dolly Parton. And if you don't know the song, you most definitely know the two other leads of the movie: Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda! And if you don't know them, well hell, we can't wait to introduce you!</p><br><p>In the episode, Hannah and Zena lead us through a history of the feminist labour organizing that directly led to the film's creation. They introduce us to Karen Nussbaum who co-founded an organization called <a href="https://9to5.org/about-us/history/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>9to5</u></a> in the early 1970s. Nussbaum and Jane Fonda became friends and allies through anti-Vietnam war organizing and developed 9 to 5 (the film) in effort to surface the struggle of working women at the time.</p><br><p>Hannah then draws on work from historian Dorothy Sue Cobble<em> </em>who argues that contemporary disillusionment about feminism has a lot to do with historical amnesia about the actual diversity of feminist organizing. Hannah suggests that the 1980 screwball comedy <em>9 to 5</em>, with its depiction of women from notably different backgrounds and with pointedly different gender presentations, might be exactly the feminist text we need in our present political moment. The conversation also touches on queer-coded characters in the story and the super queer team behind the film.</p><br><p>Come for the love of Dolly Parton and stay for the rich conversation about labour organizing, cultural consumption, moral purity and coalition building!</p><br><p><strong><u>More Zena</u></strong></p><p><a href="https://www.zenasharman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zena</a> is the editor of several anthologies, including <em>The Care We Dream Of: Liberatory &amp; Transformative Approaches to LGBTQ+ Health</em> and Lambda Literary Award-winning <em>The Remedy: Queer and Trans Voices on Health and Health Care</em>. You can buy her newest book, <em>Staying Power</em> (Arsenal Pulp Press), <a href="https://arsenalpulp.com/Books/S/Staying-Power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! Full link: <a href="https://arsenalpulp.com/Books/S/Staying-Power" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://arsenalpulp.com/Books/S/Staying-Power</a></p><br><p><strong><u>Related Episodes</u></strong></p><p><a href="https://shows.acast.com/oh-witch-please/episodes/sapphic-x-radical-feminism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sapphic x Radical Feminism</a></p><br><p><strong><u>Works Cited</u></strong></p><p>Cobble, Dorothy Sue. <em>The Other Women's Movement : Workplace Justice and Social Rights in Modern America</em>. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2003. ProQuest Ebook Central, <a href="http://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/sfu-ebooks/detail.action?docID=740297" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>http://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/sfu-ebooks/detail.action?docID=740297</u></a>.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Scott, Katherine. “A timeline: The pandemic’s impact on women in the workforce.” <em>Canada Centre for Policy Alternatives </em>2 July 2024. <a href="https://www.policyalternatives.ca/news-research/a-timeline-the-pandemics-impact-on-women-in-the-workforce/." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://www.policyalternatives.ca/news-research/a-timeline-the-pandemics-impact-on-women-in-the-workforce/</u>.</a>&nbsp;</p><br><p>Sharman, Zena. <em>Staying Power: On Queerness, Inheritances, and the Families We Choose</em>. 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