<p>In today's episode, we jumped right back on the Emerald City Express with third-time guest, Leena Norms (she/her). Leena joined us for our episode <a href="https://shows.acast.com/oh-witch-please/episodes/wonka-x-antisemitism-and-censorship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonka x Antisemitism and Censorship</a> in January 2024 and then again in December 2024 for our episode <a href="https://shows.acast.com/oh-witch-please/episodes/wicked-x-paratexts-with-leena-norms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked x Paratexts.</a> Now she's back to help us make sense of<em> Wicked: For Good.</em> Marcelle leads the episode beginning with a quick conversation about femslash, a subgenre of fan fiction which, broadly-speaking, focuses on romantic/sexual relationships between female fictional characters. Before jumping deeper into the history of femslash, Hannah, Marcelle and Leena discuss the essential question: how gay is this sequel? From there, Marcelle takes us into a conversation about subtext and representation. As always, the episode ends with a perfectly sound thesis and discussion of the movie, the media storm around the film, how Glinda is positioned as a hero, queerbaiting and revolutionary politics.</p><br><p>Follow Leena on Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leenanorms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! Instagram <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=channel_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEh5cXB6ZTlodXplc1o2b2U5QXhRTkpqVnNpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tua1Z4dE82X1QwLXdjRE1Qc3RlX2ZkQkkxVDhHVzVmZXVsc2xXRnFwWTI3aEtsNlpkZUFjakUxZGl5aGhqYVZEZ180eGIySllEcFJibWlKLVpQc3hSbnFnb2RLdnlpXzlLWDkwQ1RmdGlPQWZKZmI2bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fleenanorms%2F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! And Substack <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=channel_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmhSSWMwaHBraDhUUld5b0tfSXJNeXRrajVtUXxBQ3Jtc0tsbXNiN0RGalpIaGlsQ05MSnEtNEFXbGM4dVdGUlc4MVp5MU1idnJUWmdJTEFRTzR0cUQ0WUtzZDJGUXVlZENFSkdsVlRCWmpxbjNtYWpSRWNDYk9COHVreFRFRHBGd1lmZEkzYkIyWlFCWHdSaG04TQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fleenanorms.substack.com%2Fsubscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! You can support Leena's Patreon <a href="http://patreon.com/thegumptionclub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>!</p><p><br></p><h3><u>Works Cited</u></h3><p>“Femslash.” <em>Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki</em>. Fandom, Inc. 2025. https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/Femslash.</p><p>Hall, Margaret. 2025. “Wicked: For Good Is for the Gelphie Shippers.” <em>Playbill</em>. November 21, 2025. https://playbill.com/article/wicked-for-good-is-for-the-gelphie-shippers.</p><p>Russo, Julie Levin. 2014. “Textual Orientation: Queer Female Fandom Online.” <em>The Routledge Companion to Media and Gender</em>. Carter, Cynthia, Linda Steiner, and Lisa McLaughlin, eds. London: Routledge, Taylor &amp; Francis Group. https://doi.org/10.4324/9780203066911.</p><br><p>***</p><br><p>To learn more about Material Girls, head to our Instagram at <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/instagram.com/ohwitchplease" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/ohwitchplease</a>! Or check out our website <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/ohwitchplease.ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ohwitchplease.ca</a>. We'll be back next week with a Material Concerns episode, but until then, go check out all the other content we have on our Patreon at <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/Patreon.com/ohwitchplease" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patreon.com/ohwitchplease</a>! </p><h3><strong><u>Music Credits:</u></strong></h3><p>“Shopping Mall”: by Jay Arner and Jessica Delisle ©2020</p><p>Used by permission. All rights reserved. As recorded by Auto Syndicate on the album “Bongo Dance”.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

Material Girls

Witch, Please Productions

Wicked For Good x Femslash with Leena Norms

NOV 25, 202561 MIN
Material Girls

Wicked For Good x Femslash with Leena Norms

NOV 25, 202561 MIN

Description

<p>In today's episode, we jumped right back on the Emerald City Express with third-time guest, Leena Norms (she/her). Leena joined us for our episode <a href="https://shows.acast.com/oh-witch-please/episodes/wonka-x-antisemitism-and-censorship" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wonka x Antisemitism and Censorship</a> in January 2024 and then again in December 2024 for our episode <a href="https://shows.acast.com/oh-witch-please/episodes/wicked-x-paratexts-with-leena-norms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wicked x Paratexts.</a> Now she's back to help us make sense of<em> Wicked: For Good.</em> Marcelle leads the episode beginning with a quick conversation about femslash, a subgenre of fan fiction which, broadly-speaking, focuses on romantic/sexual relationships between female fictional characters. Before jumping deeper into the history of femslash, Hannah, Marcelle and Leena discuss the essential question: how gay is this sequel? From there, Marcelle takes us into a conversation about subtext and representation. As always, the episode ends with a perfectly sound thesis and discussion of the movie, the media storm around the film, how Glinda is positioned as a hero, queerbaiting and revolutionary politics.</p><br><p>Follow Leena on Youtube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leenanorms" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! Instagram <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=channel_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEh5cXB6ZTlodXplc1o2b2U5QXhRTkpqVnNpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tua1Z4dE82X1QwLXdjRE1Qc3RlX2ZkQkkxVDhHVzVmZXVsc2xXRnFwWTI3aEtsNlpkZUFjakUxZGl5aGhqYVZEZ180eGIySllEcFJibWlKLVpQc3hSbnFnb2RLdnlpXzlLWDkwQ1RmdGlPQWZKZmI2bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fleenanorms%2F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! And Substack <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=channel_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmhSSWMwaHBraDhUUld5b0tfSXJNeXRrajVtUXxBQ3Jtc0tsbXNiN0RGalpIaGlsQ05MSnEtNEFXbGM4dVdGUlc4MVp5MU1idnJUWmdJTEFRTzR0cUQ0WUtzZDJGUXVlZENFSkdsVlRCWmpxbjNtYWpSRWNDYk9COHVreFRFRHBGd1lmZEkzYkIyWlFCWHdSaG04TQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fleenanorms.substack.com%2Fsubscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>! You can support Leena's Patreon <a href="http://patreon.com/thegumptionclub" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>!</p><p><br></p><h3><u>Works Cited</u></h3><p>“Femslash.” <em>Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki</em>. Fandom, Inc. 2025. https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/Femslash.</p><p>Hall, Margaret. 2025. “Wicked: For Good Is for the Gelphie Shippers.” <em>Playbill</em>. November 21, 2025. https://playbill.com/article/wicked-for-good-is-for-the-gelphie-shippers.</p><p>Russo, Julie Levin. 2014. “Textual Orientation: Queer Female Fandom Online.” <em>The Routledge Companion to Media and Gender</em>. Carter, Cynthia, Linda Steiner, and Lisa McLaughlin, eds. London: Routledge, Taylor &amp; Francis Group. https://doi.org/10.4324/9780203066911.</p><br><p>***</p><br><p>To learn more about Material Girls, head to our Instagram at <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/instagram.com/ohwitchplease" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/ohwitchplease</a>! Or check out our website <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/ohwitchplease.ca" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ohwitchplease.ca</a>. We'll be back next week with a Material Concerns episode, but until then, go check out all the other content we have on our Patreon at <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/61b779d71695622d9ee95109/episodes/Patreon.com/ohwitchplease" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patreon.com/ohwitchplease</a>! </p><h3><strong><u>Music Credits:</u></strong></h3><p>“Shopping Mall”: by Jay Arner and Jessica Delisle ©2020</p><p>Used by permission. All rights reserved. As recorded by Auto Syndicate on the album “Bongo Dance”.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>