Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast
Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast

Gig Gab - The Working Musician's Podcast

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Welcome to Gig Gab—the podcast sanctuary for working musicians and anyone fascinated by the vibrant, often unseen world behind every note played on stage. Whether you’re a musician, a member of the crew, or just someone who loves peeking behind the curtain to discover the secrets of live performances, you’ve found your tribe.

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Lindsay Manfredi’s Road to Cold: Music, Micro-Pivots, and Radical Self-Worth
DEC 22, 2025
Lindsay Manfredi’s Road to Cold: Music, Micro-Pivots, and Radical Self-Worth
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You hear how she moved to Florida at twenty chasing a rock-star dream, became an instant Cold superfan, and eventually landed the bass gig through a Twitter message that felt too unreal to be real. She talks candidly about law-of-attraction moments, why every Cold song has to matter, and where the line sits between authentic human creativity and formulaic or AI-generated music. Through it all, she reminds you that most fears never materialize and it takes the same effort to believe in yourself as it does to doubt yourself. Always Be Performing.</p> <p>From there, you shift into the discipline behind her artistry: preparing for tours months in advance, running the set nearly every day, and over-preparing so the stage actually feels fun. She shares how making the road feel like home keeps her grounded, and how her book “The Girl Who Cried Love” came from losing her sense of self and rebuilding true self-worth, not just confidence. You explore dropping habits that don’t serve you, reconnecting with what you really value, and even why revisiting Mad Men taught her to only compete with herself. Finally, you wrap with a deep dive into in-ear monitor strategy, why a great mix beats great gear, and the small decisions that make performing sustainable for the long haul.</p> <p><span class="embed-youtube" style="text-align:center; display: block;"><iframe class="youtube-player" width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/A2QfZfBTJ-E?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent" allowfullscreen="true" style="border:0;" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox"></iframe></span></p> <ul> <li aria-level="1">00:00:00 <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/">Gig Gab</a> 513 &#8211; Monday, <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/december-22">December 22nd</a>, 2025 <ul> <li aria-level="1">December 22nd: <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/national-cookie-exchange-day/">National Cookie Exchange Day</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Guest co-host: <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/tag/lindsay-manfredi">Linsday Manfredi</a></li> <li aria-level="1">NAMM coming up! <ul> <li aria-level="1">GG Coverage Sponsor: <a href="https://pro.ultimateears.com">Ultimate Ears Pro!</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:01:30 Twenty years old, moved to Florida to become a rock star <ul> <li aria-level="1">Sprung Monkey needed a “merch girl”, Lindsay grabbed the gig</li> <li aria-level="1">Saw Cold, loved the music, loved Scooter’s voice. Instant fan!</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1952070120/giggab-20">Unfuckwithable: A Guide to Inspired Badassery</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:04:45 Bringing the Law of attraction into the rock world <ul> <li aria-level="1">Lindsay’s Cold tattoo made it into the album insert</li> <li aria-level="1">00:06:00 Getting the Cold gig… on Twitter in 2014</li> <li aria-level="1">Picture Yes was playing at <a href="https://www.thevogue.com/">The Vogue in Indianapolis</a> on tour with Saving Abel</li> <li aria-level="1">Check your Facebook messages: “Will you be in our band?”</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:07:32 Always say “yes!” — Build the plane while you’re flying it. <ul> <li aria-level="1">Bought a 5-String</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:09:09 Play music because you love to play music <ul> <li aria-level="1">No fluff songs in Cold</li> <li aria-level="1">Every song matters</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:11:25 Fuck AI to create music <ul> <li aria-level="1">Is Formulaic Music from humans just as bad as AI-Created Music</li> <li aria-level="1">When do we hit the point where it’s OK to use AI to create music</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:20:13 If you’re an artist, you’re going to create art. <ul> <li aria-level="1">85% of what we’re afraid of won’t happen.</li> <li aria-level="1">It takes just as much effort to have faith in something as it does to fear something</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:23:46 Transitioning from fan to band member <ul> <li aria-level="1">Scooter says: “bring your personality to it!”</li> <li aria-level="1">Capture the original intent and emotion</li> <li aria-level="1">Lindsay rewrote the run in “So Long June” and… it was welcomed!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:27:30 Preparing enough to have fun on stage <ul> <li aria-level="1">Months of practice before a tour</li> <li aria-level="1">In order to have fun on stage… I need to be an over-preparer!</li> <li aria-level="1">Fender P-Bass at home to learn and prepare for tour</li> <li aria-level="1">Heavier strings on the practice bass</li> <li aria-level="1">Run the set every day (almost)</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:33:42 Start rehearsal in December for tour in April <ul> <li aria-level="1">It’s more fun to be prepared</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:36:10 Making the road feel like home <ul> <li aria-level="1">Making your bunk your own</li> <li aria-level="1">Cold is a family</li> <li aria-level="1">Touring is my favorite thing to do</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:39:52 <a href="https://lindsaymanfredi.com/products/the-girl-who-cried-love-a-pivot-to-self-worth?srsltid=AfmBOoprbmXcGmVgYDcYl9TFzws00XHY0msXoNqLM0yMhnpDrIPrLzfL">The Girl Who Cried Love, a Pivot to Self Worth</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1">Lindsay: I lost myself into what became a failed relationship</li> <li aria-level="1">Trying to prove my worth to someone who didn’t see my worth</li> <li aria-level="1">So many of us aren’t taught what our true worth is</li> <li aria-level="1">Asking herself: “Lindsay, what do you really want in your life? What is your purpose? What are your values?”</li> <li aria-level="1">The difference between confidence and self-worth.</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:45:33 It’s hard to drop the shit that’s not serving you</li> <li aria-level="1">00:46:37 How can I make the world a little bit better? <ul> <li aria-level="1">Being in the audience first makes everything so much clearer</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:47:51 Identifying a bad habit before you can drop it <ul> <li aria-level="1">“My goal in life is to wake up laughing every day”</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:49:01 Revisiting <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men">Mad Men</a>, of all things <ul> <li aria-level="1">Better to compete with yourself</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:51:19 In Ear Monitors <ul> <li aria-level="1">Having a great mix</li> <li aria-level="1">Mix is more important than gear</li> <li aria-level="1">Dissecting in-ears</li> <li aria-level="1">Universal Fits Dave recommends: <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://pro.ultimateears.com/pages/universal-iem">Ultimate Ears Universal Fit</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.soundbrenner.com/products/wave-in-ear-monitors">Soundbrenner Wave</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/protect-improve-your-hearing-brain-health-konstantina-stankovic">Huberman Lab episode on hearing health</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">01:01:52 Gig Gab 513 Outtro <ul> <li aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://lindsaymanfredi.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorIEPhYNcX56tPoCXBYW7QZUaY0CrOMa4gdn8er5fwArT1neo7f">Lindsay Manfredi</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1">On IG @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lindsaymanfredi/">Lindsay Manfredi</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="http://coldarmy.com/">ColdArmy.com</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Contact Gig Gab! <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/giggabpodcast/">@GigGabPodcast on Instagram</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/subscribe-to-podcast/">Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p>The post <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/12/22/lindsay-manfredi-road-to-cold-gg513/">Lindsay Manfredi’s Road to Cold: Music, Micro-Pivots, and Radical Self-Worth — Gig Gab 513</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com">Gig Gab</a>.</p>
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66 MIN
Booking Smarter, Singing Harder: Demetri Papanicolau on Gig Life
DEC 15, 2025
Booking Smarter, Singing Harder: Demetri Papanicolau on Gig Life
<img width="750" height="750" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?fit=750%2C750&amp;ssl=1" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="Booking Smarter, Singing Harder: Demetri Papanicolau on Gig Life — Gig Gab 512 episode image" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?w=3000&amp;ssl=1 3000w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?resize=50%2C50&amp;ssl=1 50w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/demetri-papanicolau-booking-smarter-gg512.jpg?w=2250&amp;ssl=1 2250w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /><p class="p1">You follow Demetri Papanicolau’s winding path from Fidelity financial consultant to full-time booking agent and working musician, discovering how taking risks, saying yes to scary gigs, and learning from every stage moment shaped his career. You hear how singing AC/DC and Zeppelin in high school, drilling Beatles harmonies, and navigating the evolution from originals to covers built the chops he still relies on today. As you ride through stories of surprise band formations, COVID-era pivots, and the birth of Rotten Apple, you’re reminded that you must Always Be Performing, even when the gig you expected turns into something entirely different.</p> <p class="p1">You also step inside Demetri’s world at Notso Costley Productions, where booking is equal parts diplomacy, coaching, and reading the room. He breaks down what venues actually want, what musicians consistently get wrong, and how reliability wins more than draw. You learn how he balances the needs of solos, duos, trios, and full bands; why non-verbal communication and a good hang matter; how to build an EPK that gets you on a roster; and what happens when rates rise across the scene. Through it all, Demetri shows how being both booker and performer lets him guide bands and venues toward smoother nights, stronger partnerships, and gigs that keep everyone coming back.</p> <p><span class="embed-youtube" style="text-align:center; display: block;"><iframe class="youtube-player" width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9C82Bttv0Hs?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent" allowfullscreen="true" style="border:0;" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox"></iframe></span></p> <ul> <li aria-level="1">00:00:00 <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/">Gig Gab</a> 512 &#8211; Monday, <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/december-15">December 15th</a>, 2025 <ul> <li aria-level="1">December 15th: <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/national-cupcake-day/">National Cupcake Day</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Guest co-host: <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/tag/demetri-papanicolau">Demetri Papanicolau</a> from <a href="https://www.facebook.com/NotsoCostleyProductions/">Notso Costley Productions</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">NAMM coming up! <ul> <li aria-level="2">GG Coverage Sponsor: <a href="https://pro.ultimateears.com/">Ultimate Ears Pro!</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:02:19 From Fidelity Financial Consultant to Acquiring and running a Booking Agency <ul> <li aria-level="1">Josh Logan, local to New Hampshire, did <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Star:_Supernova">Rock Star Supernova</a> and then <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voice_(American_TV_series)">The Voice</a></li> <li aria-level="1">And then…Demetri wins the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rockstar+manchvegas">Black Brimmer’s Rock Star ManchVegas</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Doors opened!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:05:33 Singing AC/DC and Zeppelin in high school to vocal lessons</li> <li aria-level="1">00:06:06 Learning harmonies by singing The Beatles</li> <li aria-level="1">00:07:32 Playing in an original band that became a cover band</li> <li aria-level="1">00:10:05 Learning while not playing…big ears! <ul> <li aria-level="1">Submitted to America’s Got Talent</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:13:39 Taking new gigs even when they scare the heck out of you <ul> <li aria-level="1">A Josh Logan cancelation leads to a band formation to sub!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:16:02 It’s not about the gigs you take, it’s also about the gigs you don’t take <ul> <li aria-level="1">Be selective!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:17:17 Alice and Chains becomes the thread to the story</li> <li aria-level="1">00:18:51 COVID derails (and delays) some gigs…oh how we remember! <ul> <li aria-level="1">October and November, 2020</li> <li aria-level="1">When an acoustic duo gig turns into a full band on stage</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/RottenAppleNH/">Rotten Apple forms! A tribute to Alice and Chains</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:22:28 Always performing with passion <ul> <li aria-level="1">…and perfection!</li> <li aria-level="1">Developing that non-verbal communication</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:28:22 Bonding as harmony singers <ul> <li aria-level="1">When you find that magic formula with someone, stick with it!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:33:41 Putting the time in for continuous growth <ul> <li aria-level="1">Maintaining beginner’s mind</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:34:07 Finding those right partners where it’s a good hang <ul> <li aria-level="1">When your FOH Jim Roese, FOH with Fuel, Melissa Etheridge, and also Rotten Apple</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:37:44 Running a booking agency <ul> <li aria-level="1">Working for both the venue and the performer</li> <li aria-level="1">Having a roster of musicians: solos, duos, trios, full bands</li> <li aria-level="1">Being in the performer’s shoes helps Demetri be a coach to bands AND venues to ensure smooth sailing</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:42:48 Reading the room goes a long</li> <li aria-level="1">00:44:15 Demetri’s advice for making it work (or not work) <ul> <li aria-level="1">To get on the roster: Have a good EPK and promo kit</li> <li aria-level="1">Once you’re on: responsiveness, being available, managing your schedule</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:46:24 Demetri’s biggest juggling act: adapting to last-minute changes <ul> <li aria-level="1">The time Casual Gravity cancelled last minute!</li> <li aria-level="1">Reliability is huge</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:54:17 Venue feedback <ul> <li aria-level="1">Draw isn’t always the most important thing</li> <li aria-level="1">Be a pro on the mic. Represent the venue.</li> <li aria-level="1">Play the right songs.</li> <li aria-level="1">Keeping the venues happy allows Demetri to book his roster of performers</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:57:43 Raising rates for the performer <ul> <li aria-level="1">New rates for 2025</li> <li aria-level="1">$230-$250 for solo (from $170-$200 three years ago)</li> <li aria-level="1">$450-$500 for duo</li> <li aria-level="1">$660-$700 for trio</li> <li aria-level="1">$700-$1,000 for bands (or more for A-List prices)</li> <li aria-level="1">Balancing rates between performers and venues, ensuring everyone is profitable</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">01:05:03 Carrying on Paul Costley’s legacy and tradition with Nosto Costley Productions <ul> <li aria-level="1">Took a voluntary buyout package from Fidelity to make the time to acquire the agency</li> <li aria-level="1">12/31/2021 was the day Demetri took over…and stopped cutting his hair</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">01:09:20 Gig Gab 512 Outtro <ul> <li aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://www.facebook.com/demetri.papanicolau/">Demetri Papanicolau</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NotsoCostleyProductions/">Notso Costley Productions</a></li> <li aria-level="1">On IG @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/demetripapanicolau/">DemetriPapanicolau</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Contact Gig Gab! <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/giggabpodcast/">@GigGabPodcast on Instagram</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/subscribe-to-podcast/">Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p>The post <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/12/15/booking-smarter-singing-harder-demetri-papanicolau-gg512/">Booking Smarter, Singing Harder: Demetri Papanicolau on Gig Life — Gig Gab 512</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com">Gig Gab</a>.</p>
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From Hiatus to 250K Streams: The Gale Bird Story with Sean Monahan
DEC 8, 2025
From Hiatus to 250K Streams: The Gale Bird Story with Sean Monahan
<img width="750" height="750" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?fit=750%2C750&amp;ssl=1" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="From Hiatus to 250K Streams: The Gale Bird Story with Sean Monahan — Gig Gab 511 episode image" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?w=3000&amp;ssl=1 3000w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?resize=50%2C50&amp;ssl=1 50w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/gale-bird-250K-streams-sean-monahan-gg511.jpg?w=2250&amp;ssl=1 2250w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /><p class="p1">Sean Monahan from Gale Bird joins Dave Hamilton to walk you through their path of being successful working musicians in an original band. You follow Gale Bird&#8217;s path from college songwriting to a 13-year hiatus and a full-tilt return that finally landed Gale Bird on a label. You hear how the band treats music as both passion and business, blending Sean’s production chops with Joshua’s marketing instincts to create songs that connect. You get reminded that “overnight success” takes decades, and that everyone who hires you is thinking in terms of return. Failure, lineup changes, stalled gigs… they’re not roadblocks, folks, they’re prep for the next shot. That’s where you lean into the mindset: Always Be Performing.</p> <p class="p1">You also learn how the label helps identify the songs that will land, how playlist strategy works, and how Gale Bird built a digital identity alongside their live-show firepower. You dig into their content engine, daily-posting experiments, AI reels, and the push to film everything. Collaboration becomes a skill, not an accident, and you see how respecting different strengths keeps the whole machine running. Gear Gab rounds it out with a bit of a wishlist: Kempers, custom Teles, splitter snakes, and the stress test of soundcheck when tech goes sideways. Press play and enjoy!</p> <p><iframe loading="lazy" title="From Hiatus to 250K Streams: The Gale Bird Story with Sean Monahan — Gig Gab 511" width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MX-kzEA9TSQ?feature=oembed&#038;enablejsapi=1" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p> <ul> <li aria-level="1">00:00:00 <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/">Gig Gab</a> 511 &#8211; Monday, <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/december-8">December 8th</a>, 2025 <ul> <li aria-level="1">December 8th: <a href="https://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/national-day/pretend-to-be-a-time-traveler-day-december-8">Pretend to be a Time Traveler day</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Guest co-host: Sean Monahan from <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/tag/gale-bird">Gale Bird</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:01:50 Went to two different schools together <ul> <li aria-level="1">Met in college, started writing songs, doing some local touring</li> <li aria-level="1">Then a 13-year break after college while they started families</li> <li aria-level="1">And then, two years ago, you got the band back together!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:03:19 Signed to a label</li> <li aria-level="1">00:05:11 A Passion that’s also very much a business <ul> <li aria-level="1">Producing art that is digested by as many people as possible</li> <li aria-level="1">Sean’s been a full-time musician since college</li> <li aria-level="1">Learned all the right production techniques</li> <li aria-level="1">Met all the right people</li> <li aria-level="1">Hiring the right engineer and session musicians for the album</li> <li aria-level="1">Joshua has been in sales and marketing as his career</li> <li aria-level="1">And also understands aesthetics and marketing… and is Sean’s co-songwriter</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:07:57 The label saw *people* they could invest in, and also liked their sound <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://holycitymusic.org/">Holy City Music</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Overnight success takes twenty years</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:10:07 This is the entertainment business! <ul> <li aria-level="1">Whomever hires you is thinking about dollar signs</li> <li aria-level="1">They need to see the return, and as a musician you have to understand that</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:13:21 Failure prepares you for what’s next <ul> <li aria-level="1">Sometimes a gig ends</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:15:54 250,000 streams in one year!</li> <li aria-level="1">00:16:56 The Label helps <ul> <li aria-level="1">Staying in touch with Playlisters and other avenues like radio, too</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:19:38 Getting on Playlists <ul> <li aria-level="1">Label says, “write 20 songs, we’ll pick one or two” when we analyze what will perform the best on the streamers</li> <li aria-level="1">One side of the business: live shows full of rock and feels and merch and all that</li> <li aria-level="1">The other side: the digital side. People need to have a representation of the band that’s unique to them.</li> <li aria-level="1">The label is the expert for the digital side, knowing how to identify the songs that will land on the streamers</li> <li aria-level="1">Turns out we land in the “country” genre, so we’ll add a banjo to a song (for example).</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4Z1tSAMEVLU">Roses by Gale Bird is a perfect example</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:24:25 SPONSOR: <a href="https://rula.com/giggab">Rula</a> patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at <a href="https://rula.com/giggab">rula.com/giggab</a> #rulapod</li> <li aria-level="1">00:26:12 Creating a social media system for your band <ul> <li aria-level="1">An experiment: post every day for 2 months and see what happens</li> <li aria-level="1">Lesson learned: go heavy for a shorter period of time</li> <li aria-level="1">Always be thinking about future content. Film, film, film</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.canva.com/features/ai-reel-maker/">AI Reels</a></li> <li aria-level="1">A/B testing</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:33:31 Creating side businesses to funnel and fuel Gale Bird</li> <li aria-level="1">00:35:00 Learning to collaborate on your own songs <ul> <li aria-level="1">“The better a songwriter is at collaboration, the more successful they’ll be”</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:36:48 The Gale Bird formula <ul> <li aria-level="1">Can play as a duo or a full band or anything in between.</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:38:39 Respecting skillsets <ul> <li aria-level="1">Sean shines in the studio: plays all the instruments except drums</li> <li aria-level="1">Joshua shines on stage: sings, plays acoustic guitar, and has excellent stage presence</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:44:05 …and managing pride</li> <li aria-level="1">00:44:27 Gear Gab</li> <li aria-level="1">00:44:56 <a href="https://www.guitarcenter.com/riffs/news/guitars/fender-custom-shop-recreate-joe-bonamassa-sunburst-55-telecaster">Fender and Guitar Center collaborated on a custom telecaster</a></li> <li aria-level="1">00:46:32 Sean went to a Kemper rig <ul> <li aria-level="1">Wishlist: <a href="https://www.kemper-amps.com/store/en/profiler-stage-b.html">Kemper Stage</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://hipshotproducts.com/products/hipshot-string-bending-system">Hipshot B-Bender</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:48:25 <a href="https://www.behringer.com/wing/wing-rack.html">Behringer Wing Rack</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://mackie.com/en/products/mixers/dl-series?srsltid=AfmBOopoH2uKoxD--V889G2XVXzOfXOceUeqGjv2Yng9TiKblNEha3S5">Mackie DL32S</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://audioproreck.com/products/proreck-8-channel-low-profile-xlr-send-circuit-board-snake-cables-xlr-splitter-cable-for-live-recording-stage-studio-50-feet-long?srsltid=AfmBOoo8u39DoS0GngDv281M4ZQHTXVWV0OraGvZ_t39yP9GFggmfrZQ">PRORECK Splitter Snakes</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:54:12 The stress of tech issues at soundcheck</li> <li aria-level="1">00:57:10 Gig Gab 511 Outtro <ul> <li aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://galebird.com/">Gale Bird</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1">On IG @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/galebirdmusic/?hl=en">GaleBirdMusic</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Contact Gig Gab! <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/giggabpodcast/">@GigGabPodcast on Instagram</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/subscribe-to-podcast/">Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p>The post <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/12/08/250k-streams-gale-bird-sean-monahan-gg511/">From Hiatus to 250K Streams: The Gale Bird Story with Sean Monahan — Gig Gab 511</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com">Gig Gab</a>.</p>
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58 MIN
Gig Wisdom & Scheduled Fun Time with Matt Musty of Train
DEC 1, 2025
Gig Wisdom & Scheduled Fun Time with Matt Musty of Train
<img width="750" height="750" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?fit=750%2C750&amp;ssl=1" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="Gig Wisdom &amp; Scheduled Fun Time with Matt Musty of Train — Gig Gab 510 episode image" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?w=3000&amp;ssl=1 3000w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?resize=50%2C50&amp;ssl=1 50w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/train-matt-musty-gig-gab-510.jpg?w=2250&amp;ssl=1 2250w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /><div> <p>Get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look with Train’s drummer Matt Musty and host Dave Hamilton as they dive deep into gig wisdom, touring tips, and pro gear secrets. Learn why being on time, managing your role smartly, and balancing music, money, and the hang is essential for a successful music career. From handling days off and staying rested on the road to mastering in-ear monitors with creative mic setups, this episode is packed with actionable advice every touring musician needs. Always Be Performing with fresh insights that keep you inspired and ready for every show.</p> <p>Discover how Matt approaches touring with diplomacy, band dynamics, and staying connected to home life while on the road. Explore favorite microphones for perfect in-ear sound, how to avoid a sterile IEM mix, and the importance of scheduled fun time to keep social media engaging. Whether you’re a musician, live sound enthusiast, or fan of the tour life, this episode offers a masterclass in professionalism and passion to elevate your musical journey and keep your performance sharp night after night.</p> <p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Gig Wisdom &amp; Scheduled Fun Time with Matt Musty of Train — Gig Gab 510" width="750" height="422" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/za3q6RJRnHM?feature=oembed&#038;enablejsapi=1" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p> </div> <ul> <li aria-level="1">00:00:00 <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/">Gig Gab</a> 510 &#8211; Monday, <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/december-1">December 1st</a>, 2025 <ul> <li aria-level="1">December 1st: <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/national-peppermint-bark-day/">National Peppermint Bark Day</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Guest co-host: <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/tag/matt-musty">Matt Musty</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:02:22 Train continues to level up <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uull250eBU">Train at Royal Albert Hall</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Yy3oVdMMI">Train at Grand Ole Opry</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:03:40 Waking up the singer ten minutes before the gig!</li> <li aria-level="1">00:06:10 Gig Advice from Musty: Be On Time</li> <li aria-level="1">00:08:46 I’m not ever the guy who hangs around <ul> <li aria-level="1">My job’s done</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:10:09 Managing your opinion</li> <li aria-level="1">00:11:16 The long game of diplomacy is the key to a successful career <ul> <li aria-level="1">The gig philosophy, 2 out of 3 aint bad: <ul> <li aria-level="1">Music</li> <li aria-level="1">Money</li> <li aria-level="1">Hang</li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:15:51 Days off are tough on the band and crew</li> <li aria-level="1">00:18:26 The risk of hanging out with your road-hosts after the gig <ul> <li aria-level="1">Prioritizing sleep on the road</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:23:42 The Zen of the connection between you and your gear <ul> <li aria-level="1">The no-soundcheck days</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:28:48 PODCAST: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/album-archives-the-vault-of-music-history/id1822387190">Album Archives</a>. Count down The Top 300 Albums of All Time — one record at a time — with <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/album-archives-the-vault-of-music-history/id1822387190">Album Archives | The Vault of Music History</a>.</li> <li aria-level="1">00:29:46 IEM Talk! <ul> <li aria-level="1">Sometimes a broken seal</li> <li aria-level="1">Ideas for avoiding a sterile IEM mix <ul> <li aria-level="1">Matt put a “crotch mic in place: a Beyer M160 underneath the snare to grab the sound of the kit and put it through some reverb with compression AFTER the reverb</li> <li aria-level="1">Audience Mics</li> <li aria-level="1">Adding reverb to the drums and vocal mics</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Play every song like it’s the first time. Be inspired!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:41:39 Finding the right microphones to capture your instrument for your in-ears <ul> <li aria-level="1">Transparent mics like the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Earthworks-ETHOS-Condenser-Broadcast-Microphone/dp/B09PQXSNJH">Earthworks ETHOS</a> on guitar amps or the <a href="http://earthworksaudio.com/instrument-microphones/sr20-g2/">Earthworks SR20-Gen2</a> on drum overheads</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:44:37 Favorite snare drum mics <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/p/m-201?srsltid=AfmBOoqvf5v3Ew4nMC3UhlpcP2Bx6ytJ8g4VJbpdxfI4uYh71RkJQ8vv">Beyerdynamic M201</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.telefunken-elektroakustik.com/product/m80-standard/">Telefunken M80</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="http://earthworksaudio.com/drum-microphones/dm17/">Earthworks DM17</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:49:31 The short version of the Earthworks story</li> <li aria-level="1">00:51:15 Keeping a connection to home while on the road</li> <li aria-level="1">00:52:30 Enjoying the spoils of a high-level tour</li> <li aria-level="1">00:56:42 Being recognized for your job</li> <li aria-level="1">00:59:10 A quick social media discussion <ul> <li aria-level="1">Scheduled Fun Time</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gabygabyhey/?hl=en">Gaby from Crush Management</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">01:02:48 Gig Gab 510 Outtro <ul> <li aria-level="1">Find <a href="https://www.mattmusty.com/">Matt Musty</a> <ul> <li aria-level="1">On IG @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mattmusty/?hl=en">MattMusty</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Contact Gig Gab! <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/giggabpodcast/">@GigGabPodcast on Instagram</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/subscribe-to-podcast/">Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p>The post <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/12/01/gig-wisdom-scheduled-fun-time-with-matt-musty-of-train-gg510/">Gig Wisdom &#038; Scheduled Fun Time with Matt Musty of Train — Gig Gab 510</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com">Gig Gab</a>.</p>
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64 MIN
Inside Brian Wilson, The Beach Boys, and The Beatles with David Leaf
NOV 24, 2025
Inside Brian Wilson, The Beach Boys, and The Beatles with David Leaf
<img width="750" height="750" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?fit=750%2C750&amp;ssl=1" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="Inside Brian Wilson, The Beach Boys, and The Beatles with David Leaf — Gig Gab 509 episode image" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" loading="lazy" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?w=3000&amp;ssl=1 3000w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?resize=50%2C50&amp;ssl=1 50w, https://i0.wp.com/www.giggabpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/11/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf.jpg?w=2250&amp;ssl=1 2250w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px" /><p class="p1">You drop into this episode walking side-by-side with David Leaf as he revisits the moments that shaped his life around Brian Wilson’s genius. You hear how Brian needed unconditional connection to create, how Leaf found himself driving tour vans, sitting in private Sinatra rehearsals, and realizing he had to earn his place in those rooms. From LA trips with legends to the spark that made him pack up, move west, and chase Brian’s story head-on, you feel the lesson hit hard: keep moving forward and Always Be Performing.</p> <p class="p1">You also get a front-row view into the musical engine behind Brian Wilson’s world. Leaf breaks down the jazz-rooted harmonies, the devotion of Brian’s touring band, and the emotional work that helped Brian reclaim his confidence. You learn how Pet Sounds floored Lennon and McCartney, why Paul might be the biggest Beatles fan alive, and why Leaf argues Brian deserves solo induction into the Rock Hall. Along the way, you’re guided through The Reel Beatles class, the making of Smile, and the books that document it all, leaving you with the sense that loving music isn’t passive… it’s a craft you show up for every day.</p> <ul> <li aria-level="1">00:00:00 <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/">Gig Gab</a> 509 &#8211; Monday, <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/november-24">November 24th</a>, 2025 <ul> <li aria-level="1">November 24th: <a href="https://nationaltoday.com/celebrate-your-unique-talent-day/">Celebrate Your Unique Talent Day</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Guest co-host: <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/tag/david-leaf/">David Leaf</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:02:16 Brian Wilson calls… I need “friends” in the room. <ul> <li aria-level="1">Brian Wilson needed to be loved unconditionally</li> <li aria-level="1">David drove for the tour</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0448146266/giggab-20">The Beach Boys and The California Myth</a> (re-released as <a href="https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1913172759/giggab-20">God Only Knows</a>)</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:07:20 First Trip to LA…with Nelson Riddle and Frank Sinatra <ul> <li aria-level="1">And there’s a Sinatra classic right in front of him</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLemonTwigs/comments/1k3wf7l/david_leaf_the_full_length_rthebeachboys/">David Leaf and the Twigs</a></li> <li aria-level="1">Getting a private concert from Frank Sinatra and had the thought: “this is where I want to be. What do I need to do to earn my spot in this room?”</li> <li aria-level="1">The BeeGees</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Webb">Jimmy Webb</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Alpert">Herb Alpert</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://catalog.registrar.ucla.edu/course/2022/mscind4">The Reel Beatles</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://schoolofmusic.ucla.edu/people/david-leaf/">Docs that Rock class by David Leaf</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:11:04 In college he became obsessed with Brian Wilson</li> <li aria-level="1">00:11:50 The band for Brian’s 1999-2000 tour, Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE <ul> <li aria-level="1">The band was devoted to recreating the moments</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:12:24 If you’re obsessed with Brian Wilson, why dont you do something about it <ul> <li aria-level="1">Why don’t I move to California, meet Brian Wilson, and write a book about him and help him finish SMiLE</li> <li aria-level="1">My parents told me I was special, and I believed them.</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:13:58 Walked up to Dennis Wilson and told him he was going to write a book about his brother <ul> <li aria-level="1">Lesson: Keep moving forward!</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:15:37 Brian and I were friends</li> <li aria-level="1">00:16:33 Brian loved to do casual singing <ul> <li aria-level="1">Singing along to the oldies with Brian Wilson</li> <li aria-level="1">Going to the Church of Brian Wilson</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:19:08 His musicians gave him the unconditional love he needed to play this music <ul> <li aria-level="1">…and eventually release Smile</li> <li aria-level="1">Brian Wilson saw Wild Honey… “If I had this group back in the 1960s, I could have taken Smile on the road!”</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:22:47 The technical complexities of Brian Wilson’s harmonies <ul> <li aria-level="1">Brian came from jazz</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:25:42 Brian Wilson’s relationship with Sir Paul McCartney <ul> <li aria-level="1">When Pet Sounds came out, John and Paul told him how much they loved the album</li> <li aria-level="1">Recording Artists were Song Monkeys in the old days</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:29:08 SPONSOR: <a href="https://surfshark.com/giggab4">Surfshark</a>. Go to <a href="https://surfshark.com/giggab4">https://surfshark.com/giggab4</a> or use code <a href="https://surfshark.com/giggab4">giggab</a> at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN!</li> <li aria-level="1">00:31:29 SPONSOR: <a href="https://www.rula.com/giggab">Rula</a> patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at <a href="https://www.rula.com/giggab">https://www.rula.com/giggab</a> #rulapod</li> <li aria-level="1">00:33:29 Brian Wilson singing Brian Wilson</li> <li aria-level="1">00:38:45 Brian Wilson had initial confidence, and then it was beaten out of him</li> <li aria-level="1">00:39:44 Managing The Pressure of First Fame <ul> <li aria-level="1">Finally, Brian: “I have emotional security”</li> <li aria-level="1">Tips for Avoiding Internal Pressure</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:46:03 Meet <a href="https://catalog.registrar.ucla.edu/course/2022/mscind4">The Reel Beatles</a>, a 10-week class <ul> <li aria-level="1">Guests: Peter Asher, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lindsay-Hogg">Michael Lyndsay-Hogg</a>, Peter Jackson</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:51:39 Paul McCartney is the world’s biggest Beatles Fan</li> <li aria-level="1">00:53:36 Brian Wilson <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SriaRRcA6w">Brian Wilson And the Story of SMiLE</a></li> <li aria-level="1">David Leaf posits that Brian Wilson should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist</li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:56:32 David’s Books <ul> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1915841313/giggab-20">SMiLE: The Rise fall and Ressurection of Brian Wilson</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0448146266/giggab-20">The Beach Boys and the California Myth</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">00:57:58 The candor captured Brian Wilson, Live at The Roxy</li> <li aria-level="1">01:00:59 Gig Gab 509 Outtro <ul> <li aria-level="1">Find David Leaf <ul> <li aria-level="1">At <a href="http://leafprod.com/">LeafProd.com</a></li> </ul> </li> <li aria-level="1">Contact Gig Gab!</li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/giggabpodcast/">@GigGabPodcast on Instagram</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/subscribe-to-podcast/">Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p>The post <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/11/24/brian-wilson-beach-boys-beatles-david-leaf-gg509/">Inside Brian Wilson, The Beach Boys, and The Beatles with David Leaf — Gig Gab 509</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.giggabpodcast.com">Gig Gab</a>.</p>
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