The Rich Outdoors
The Rich Outdoors

The Rich Outdoors

Cody Rich

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Conversations for people who want to build a bigger life. Hosted by hunter, entrepreneur, and Bridger Watch founder Cody Rich, this podcast explores hunting, adventure, hard things, personal growth, and the pursuit of a life well lived. From epic hunting stories and wilderness adventures to building businesses, raising families, improving health, and chasing meaningful work, these conversations are about becoming more capable in every part of life. You’ll hear from hunters, athletes, founders, creators, guides, and people who have chosen a different path — one built around freedom, adventure, discipline, and purpose. New episodes weekly.

Recent Episodes

Mules, Mountains & a Collapsed Lung: Justin Helvik on Going All In
JUN 19, 2026
Mules, Mountains & a Collapsed Lung: Justin Helvik on Going All In
<p>There&#8217;s a certain type of person who can&#8217;t half-ass anything. The kind of guy who decides to climb the Grand Teton on a whim, rappels off a sheer face having never rappelled before, canyoneers into some of the most remote slot canyons in the American Southwest, and packs mules solo through the dark at midnight to make the opener. Justin Helvik is that guy — and somehow, impossibly, he&#8217;s also a 20-year educator who coached high school football and showed up Monday morning with a collapsed lung and six broken ribs, insisting everything was fine.</p> <p>Justin and I go way back. He was with me on one of my early bear hunts. I helped him build the pole barn that would eventually house the mules he didn&#8217;t own yet. Life moves fast when you&#8217;re the kind of person who&#8217;s always got the next adventure already on the calendar.<br /> In this episode, Justin breaks down his unconventional path from desk jockey to legitimate mountain mule skinner — and I mean that in the best possible way. We talk about what drove a guy with zero ranch background to go all in on mule packing, the gnarly wreck on a Montana mountain goat hunt that left him with a punctured lung and broken ribs (and how his mule, Bella, somehow knew he was hurt and carried him out of the backcountry gently), and what it actually feels like to go from being intimidated by stock animals to packing 80 miles through the Yellowstone Thoroughfare.</p> <p>But this conversation goes deeper than mules. We get into the philosophy of adventure — what it means to chase that feeling of uncomfortable, why comfort might actually be the most dangerous thing you can do to yourself, and how stacking experiences over a lifetime is the only real way to build confidence that transfers everywhere. Justin talks about identity, ego, legacy, and what Lonesome Dove&#8217;s Augustus McCrae got right about living versus dying.</p> <p>He&#8217;s also got a Substack — From Desk Jockey to Mule Skinner — that I&#8217;d encourage every one of you to go read. He&#8217;s a great writer, and the stories are even better on the page.</p> <p><em>If you&#8217;ve ever thought about getting into pack stock, or you&#8217;re someone who&#8217;s wired to always be pushing the next limit, this one&#8217;s for you.</em></p> <p>Episode Sponsors<br /> <strong>Bridger Watch</strong><br /> This episode is brought to you by Bridger Watch — the smartwatch built specifically for hunters, by a hunter. Cody set out to build something better after getting tired of pulling his phone out 100 times a day just to check his OnX map in the field. The solution? Put the maps on the watch.<br /> Bridger Watch is the best smartwatch for hunters, period. If you&#8217;re a watch guy and a hunter, this is built for you.<br /> Website: <a href="https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss</a><br /> Coupon Code: TRO</p> <p><strong>onX Hunt</strong><br /> onX Hunt is the gold standard for hunting maps, and they just dropped a feature that&#8217;s going to change how you hunt with a buddy. The new Share Location feature inside the Go Track section lets you and your hunting partner see each other&#8217;s real-time position right on the map — like a modern-day Garmin Rino, but actually good.<br /> Fair warning: this only works in cell service, so it won&#8217;t help you in the deep dark. But for those in-service hunts? This is seriously cool tech that a lot of hunters have been asking for for years.<br /> Website:<a href="https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss"> https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss</a><br /> Coupon Code: TRO</p> <p><strong>Timestamp Chapters</strong><br /> 0:00 Intro &amp; Sponsor — Bridger Watch<br /> 2:15 Sponsor — onX Hunt: New Share Location Feature<br /> 4:30 Welcoming Justin Helvik / Catching Up After Years<br /> 6:00 Justin&#8217;s Background: 20 Years in Education, Small Town Roots<br /> 9:30 The Path to Mules — Pack Goats, Failed HOAs &amp; Bighorn Disease Concerns<br /> 15:00 Justin&#8217;s Adventure DNA: Ultra Races, the Grand Teton &amp; Canyoneering<br /> 22:00 Olo Canyon &amp; Going Where Few Have Been<br /> 26:30 The Moment That Made Him Go All-In on Mules (Elk Down, No Help)<br /> 31:00 First Experiences with Pack Stock — Intimidation, Trust &amp; Mule Personalities<br /> 36:00 Horses vs. Mules: Self-Preservation, Bells &amp; the Classic &#8216;Brakes Are Broken&#8217;<br /> 40:30 The Mountain Goat Hunt Wreck — A Collapsed Lung, Six Broken Ribs &amp; Bella<br /> 48:00 What the Wreck Taught Him About Ego &amp; Risk<br /> 51:00 How Adventure Changes When You Have a Family<br /> 53:30 Experience Stacking: The Philosophy of Going All-In Incrementally<br /> 56:00 Planning the Lee Metcalf Solo Ride &amp; Why You Need the Next Trip on the Calendar<br /> 58:00 Wrap Up — Justin&#8217;s Substack: From Desk Jockey to Mule Skinner</p> <p><em><strong>3 Key Takeaways</strong></em></p> <p><strong>1. Comfort is the real killer — not the mountains.</strong><br /> Justin makes the point that denying yourself the adventures you&#8217;re wired for is a slow death from the inside. It&#8217;s not just a mindset cliché — he&#8217;s seen it play out in his own life. When he&#8217;s not planning something that makes him a little nervous, he loses motivation everywhere else: at work, at home, as a father. The takeaway for listeners isn&#8217;t to go do something reckless. It&#8217;s to identify your version of &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221; and book it. Put it in the calendar. Then don&#8217;t cancel.</p> <p><strong>2. Stack experiences, not just kills.</strong><br /> One of the most practical threads in this whole conversation is the concept of experience stacking — the idea that every micro-adventure you complete is compounding interest on your confidence. Justin didn&#8217;t go from zero to packing 80 miles through the Yellowstone Thoroughfare overnight. He stacked years of backcountry hunting, mule rides with friends, short overnighters, and hard lessons (including that ER visit) until the big trips felt like a natural next step. If you&#8217;re waiting until you&#8217;re &#8220;ready&#8221; to do the hunt of a lifetime, you&#8217;ll wait forever. Start smaller, go often, and let the experiences compound.</p> <p><strong>3. The anticipation is half the experience — book the trip.</strong><br /> Justin and Cody dig into something that doesn&#8217;t get talked about enough in the hunting world: the happiness that comes from having something on the calendar to look forward to. Science backs this up — humans are wired to find joy in anticipation. The planning, the e-scouting, the gear lists, the late-night what-ifs with your buddy — that&#8217;s not just prep, that&#8217;s part of the experience itself. Don&#8217;t wait for the perfect conditions or the perfect budget. Book it now, figure it out along the way, and let yourself enjoy the countdown.</p>
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Identity, Aspiration, and the Anatomy of an Elk Hunt
MAY 19, 2026
Identity, Aspiration, and the Anatomy of an Elk Hunt
<p>Man, I don&#8217;t know how else to say this — this one got me. I sat down with Christian Zeron, the guy behind the Theo N. Harris Instagram, and what started as a watch-world conversation turned into one of the most honest, wide-open talks about hunting, identity, manhood, and what it means to find something that actually moves you. That&#8217;s the kind of episode this is.</p> <p>Christian grew up in New Jersey selling vintage Rolexes in college and built a marketing company around it. He&#8217;s sharp, he&#8217;s articulate, and — up until about six months ago — he had zero connection to the hunting world. Then a client invited him on a hunt in Kentucky and, well, here we are. He killed his first turkey this spring, he&#8217;s already got hog hunts lined up in Texas and a dove trip to Argentina on the books, and the guy is all in. Completely, unapologetically, joyfully all in.</p> <p>What I love about Christian is that he brings this fresh set of eyes to our world. He&#8217;s not pretending to be someone he&#8217;s not. He&#8217;s a Ralph Lauren, vintage shotgun, lever-action rifle kind of guy who gets genuinely emotional talking about his late grandfather while butchering his first bird. That&#8217;s real. That&#8217;s the stuff hunting is actually made of, and it&#8217;s the stuff that&#8217;s really hard to explain to people who haven&#8217;t lived it.<br /> We go deep on the watch world and what Rolex figured out about aspiration and identity that most brands never do.</p> <p>We talk camo as identity, Sitka vs. First Lite, Yeti coolers, LVMH, Omega, Casio — and somehow it all connects back to hunting, brand building, and what it means to be a man who collects experiences instead of just stuff. Plus, we dig into what I&#8217;m trying to build with Bridger Watch and Christian gives me some real, unfiltered marketing advice on how to position it against Garmin and Apple.</p> <p>This is the kind of conversation that makes you want to call your old man, fire up a steak, and go outside. Strap in.</p> <p><strong>Episode Sponsors</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>onX Hunt</strong></a><br /> If you&#8217;re serious about hunting out west, onX isn&#8217;t optional — it&#8217;s foundational. We&#8217;re talking land ownership, access layers, terrain intel, and a full suite of tools built for every phase of the hunt: planning, preparation, and execution. The difference onX makes is simple. It&#8217;s confidence. Confidence that you&#8217;re in the right spot. Confidence that you&#8217;re legal. Confidence that you can find your way back to the truck when the day goes long and the country gets weird. Download the onX Hunt app and become an Elite member today.<br /> Use code TRO for 20% off your membership.</p> <p><em>Website: onxmaps.com</em></p> <p><a href="https://bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Bridger Watch</strong></a><br /> I set out to build a better smartwatch for the hunting community — plain and simple. I was frustrated. I kept pulling my phone out 100 times a day to check onX in the field and thought, why can&#8217;t we just have the map on our wrist? So we went down the rabbit hole and built what I genuinely believe is the best smartwatch ever made for hunters. If you&#8217;re a watch guy and a hunter, this was built for you.<br /> Use code TRO at checkout.</p> <p><em>Website: bridgerwatch.com</em></p> <p><strong>Timestamp Chapters</strong><br /> 0:00  —  Intro &amp; Sponsor — onX Hunt<br /> 1:45  —  Sponsor — Bridger Watch<br /> 3:00  —  Welcome Christian Zeron | Who Is This Guy?<br /> 5:30  —  From Jersey to the Deer Woods — How a Watch Guy Found Hunting<br /> 9:00  —  Building a Marketing Company on the Back of Rolex<br /> 12:30  —  Christian&#8217;s First Turkey: Buck Fever, Clown Makeup, and Grandfather Moments<br /> 17:00  —  Why Hunting Hits Different — The Emotional Depth Non-Hunters Don&#8217;t Understand<br /> 20:30  —  Serving Elk Steak &amp; The Pride of the Harvest<br /> 23:00  —  Where Does Christian&#8217;s Hunting Journey Go From Here? Argentina, Texas, Bear Hunts<br /> 26:30  —  Identity in the Hunting World — Camo Brands, Sitka, First Lite &amp; the Yeti Effect<br /> 30:00  —  Decor, Taxidermy, and Why Rural Men Are More Aesthetic Than Manhattan Bankers<br /> 33:30  —  The Smartwatch Debate — Where Does a Luxury Watch Guy Land on Wearables?<br /> 37:00  —  Marketing Advice for Bridger Watch — What Rolex Got Right &amp; What We Should Learn<br /> 40:30  —  The Watch World Deep Dive — Omega, Tag Heuer, LVMH, Casio &amp; Vintage Markets<br /> 44:00  —  Lever Guns, Grandfather&#8217;s .35 Remington, and Planning Future Hunts<br /> 46:00  —  Wrap Up — Follow Christian &amp; Final Thoughts</p> <p><strong>3 Key Takeaways</strong></p> <p>1. Hunting Connects You to Something Bigger Than the Kill<br /> Christian&#8217;s story about his late grandfather flooding back while he was butchering his first turkey is one of the most honest descriptions of why hunters hunt that I&#8217;ve heard in a long time. The harvest, the meat, the field dressing — it all becomes this vessel for memory and emotion and people you&#8217;ve lost. And it&#8217;s something you genuinely cannot explain to someone who hasn&#8217;t felt it. If you&#8217;ve ever felt your dad or your grandfather or someone you loved in a duck blind or a wall tent, you know exactly what Christian is talking about. That feeling doesn&#8217;t go away. It doesn&#8217;t get old. That&#8217;s why we keep going back.</p> <p>2. Identity Is at the Core of Every Purchase Decision — Hunting Included<br /> Christian has been living inside luxury brand psychology for over a decade, and watching him apply that lens to the hunting world is genuinely eye-opening. Whether it&#8217;s Sitka gear, a Yeti cooler, or a vintage duck camo jacket — we are all making identity statements with every piece of kit we buy. And what&#8217;s fascinating is that hunters, who largely pride themselves on being no-nonsense, practical people, are actually some of the most identity-driven consumers out there. The trophy room, the curated camp setup, the brand of camo you wear — it all means something. Knowing that isn&#8217;t a bad thing. It&#8217;s human nature.</p> <p>3. Lead With the Tool — Let the Lifestyle Follow<br /> Christian&#8217;s marketing insight for Bridger Watch — and honestly for any product in the outdoor space — is worth writing down. The temptation is to lead with the vibe, the lifestyle, the beautiful photos. But for a product that has genuine technical superiority in a specific use case, the smarter play is to lead with education and product proof first, and let the lifestyle layer build behind it. Rolex works because it&#8217;s 90% signal and 10% tool. A hunting watch should be the opposite: 90% tool, 10% signal. Prove what the product does for real people doing real things, and the identity follows naturally.</p>
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47 MIN
Gray Ghosts and Gridirons: Joe Epple’s Journey from Squamish to Stone Sheep Country
MAY 14, 2026
Gray Ghosts and Gridirons: Joe Epple’s Journey from Squamish to Stone Sheep Country
<p>Look, I&#8217;m not gonna sugarcoat it — life got in the way and we missed a week. But we&#8217;re back, and this one was worth the wait.</p> <p>Joe Epple is one of those guys who doesn&#8217;t fit neatly into a box. Retired professional football player. CFL veteran. Director of Business Development for Wild TV — Canada&#8217;s largest hunt and fish TV network. Co-host of The Edge, now in its 17th season. Father of two boys. Columbia blacktail hunter. Stone sheep chaser. A 6&#8217;8&#8243; giant of a man who grew up in Squamish, British Columbia, hunting for meat and mushrooming in the rain just to make ends meet — and who somewhere along the way figured out that all those lessons in the wet coastal bush were actually building the foundation for everything that came after.</p> <p>This episode goes deep on what it really means to make the transition from professional athlete to serious hunter, and why the skills that make you elite in sports — goal-setting, resilience, the ability to learn from getting your ass kicked — translate directly to the mountains. Joe talks about growing up in a logging family that hunted out of necessity, not recreation. About being the fat, knock-kneed kid who nobody bet on, who started going to a rusty prison gym at 13 and never looked back. About how hunting blacktails in the miserable, soaking wet coastal bluffs of BC taught him to push through discomfort long before any football field did.</p> <p>We get into the mental game of hunting — specifically what it looks like when you&#8217;ve got 14-day fly-in stone sheep hunts on one end of the spectrum and a four-year-old who snaps every branch and asks to go back to the truck every five minutes on the other. How do you stay present? How do you keep the long game in mind when you&#8217;re sitting in the gutter on day 10 of a backcountry hunt wondering why you&#8217;re not home with your family? Joe&#8217;s got a framework for that, and it&#8217;s worth hearing.</p> <p>We talk about Kristen&#8217;s bear — a giant boar that&#8217;ll likely crack the top 15 all-time in the province. About Joe&#8217;s most-prized blacktail taken at 12 yards with a bow. About why archery hunting teaches you more about your weaknesses as a hunter than anything else. About what it&#8217;s like to hunt stone sheep as a resident in BC for a fraction of what nonresidents pay, and why he still hasn&#8217;t punched an archery tag on one. And about the pressure social media puts on new hunters to skip the learning curve entirely and shoot a 200-inch muley on their first trip out.</p> <p>Joe&#8217;s a straight shooter (pun intended), genuinely humble, and packed with perspective from both sides of the fence — the elite athlete world and the deep wilderness backcountry. This one&#8217;s got range. Turn it up.</p> <p>Episode Sponsors</p> <p><a href="https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>onX Hunt</strong></a><br /> If you&#8217;re hunting out west and you&#8217;re not running onX, I don&#8217;t know what to tell you — it&#8217;s not optional at this point, it&#8217;s foundational. Land ownership, access layers, terrain intel, route planning — onX does it all. The difference it makes isn&#8217;t just convenience. It&#8217;s confidence. Confidence that you&#8217;re in the right spot. Confidence that you&#8217;re legal. Confidence that you can find your way back to the truck when things go sideways. That&#8217;s what elite membership gets you.</p> <p>Website: https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss  |  Use code: TRO — Save 20% on Elite Membership</p> <p><a href="https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Bridger Watch</strong></a><br /> This one&#8217;s personal — I built Bridger Watch because I was frustrated. I was pulling my phone out 100 times a day just to check my onX, and I thought there had to be a better way. So we went down the rabbit hole and set out to build the best smartwatch for hunters. Maps on your wrist. Built for the field. If you&#8217;re a watch guy and a hunter, this is the one you&#8217;ve been waiting for.</p> <p>Website: https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss  |  Use code: TRO — Exclusive discount</p> <p><strong>Timestamp Chapters</strong><br /> 0:00 — Intro &amp; Sponsor: onX Hunt<br /> 1:30 — Sponsor: Bridger Watch<br /> 3:00 — Welcome &amp; catching up — the missed week, quick intros<br /> 5:30 — Joe&#8217;s roots: growing up in Squamish, BC — logging family, pine mushrooms, coastal blacktails<br /> 10:00 — Why Joe pursued athletics instead of the outdoors — the unlikely path to pro football<br /> 14:30 — The transition: retiring from pro sports and returning to his outdoor roots<br /> 17:00 — Joe&#8217;s current life — Director of Business Development at Wild TV, The Edge TV show<br /> 20:00 — Raising kids in the outdoors — Walker and Wyatt, making it fun vs. making it serious<br /> 26:30 — Cody&#8217;s excavator story — how to build positive associations with hunting for young kids<br /> 30:00 — Spring bear hunting as a family — dance parties in the mountains and Kristen&#8217;s record-book bear<br /> 36:00 — The fat kid with a doctor&#8217;s note — Joe&#8217;s aha moment at 13, the rusty gym, and building self-confidence<br /> 42:00 — Growing up with zero sports culture in the house — how a 6&#8217;8&#8243; kid ended up at Washington State on a full ride<br /> 47:00 — Blacktail hunting as the foundation — why the gray ghost builds hunters who can do anything<br /> 51:00 — Joe&#8217;s most prized blacktail — the 12-yard bow shot, the branch deflection, and the bluff recovery<br /> 54:00 — The mental game of backcountry hunting — learning lessons on every trip, reframing failure<br /> 57:30 — Archery vs. rifle — why Joe hunts with a bow even when he doesn&#8217;t have to, and what it&#8217;s cost him<br /> 60:00 — Dream archery hunts, stone sheep with a bow, and where to find The Edge on Wild TV</p> <p><strong>3 Key Takeaways</strong></p> <p>1. The Outdoors Builds the Foundation — Not the Other Way Around<br /> Joe flipped the typical narrative. Most people assume athletic success leads to outdoor opportunity. For Joe, it was the blacktail hunts in the BC rain — the cold hands, the wet wool pants, the days you saw nothing and came back a prune — that built the grit that eventually carried him to pro football. The outdoors taught him to show up when it sucks, because the lesson is in the discomfort. If you&#8217;ve ever wondered why some people can push through brutal hunting conditions while others fold, this conversation gives you the answer: it&#8217;s not a hunting skill, it&#8217;s a life skill — and you build it long before you ever draw a tag.</p> <p>2. Play the Long Game With Your Kids<br /> Joe and Cody both land in the same place on this one: the goal isn&#8217;t to turn your four-year-old into a stealthy, branch-free hunting machine. The goal is to make sure they ask to go again. Unlimited bubbly water. Bring the toy excavator. Let them jump on every frozen puddle. Have a dance party in the mountains before you sneak over the ridge. The association you build right now — &#8220;hunting is fun, hunting is where we laugh and eat good snacks and do dumb stuff together&#8221; — is worth more than any lesson you could drill into them about staying quiet. The discipline will come. The desire to be out there has to come first.</p> <p>3. Stop Writing the Story Before It&#8217;s Over<br /> Two or three days without seeing an animal and most hunters start mentally packing it in. Joe&#8217;s been there on 14-day fly-in hunts when the wheels come off and you start questioning every decision. His counterintuitive advice: that&#8217;s the point. That&#8217;s the adventure. The highs wouldn&#8217;t mean what they mean without the lows, and things change in a moment — a bull materializes, a bear steps into the open, the hunt you&#8217;ve been grinding finally breaks your way. The story isn&#8217;t finished until you&#8217;re back in the truck. Stay in the field. Stay sharp. The last two days have a funny way of making up for everything that came before.</p>
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61 MIN
Earned Not Given | Connor Koch on Risk Tolerance, Resilience, and the Road to Becoming a Hunter
MAY 6, 2026
Earned Not Given | Connor Koch on Risk Tolerance, Resilience, and the Road to Becoming a Hunter
<p><strong>EP 681: Connor Koch<br /> </strong><br /> Some episodes just take a minute to get right. We lost the first version of this one — somewhere out there is an SD card with what I&#8217;m sure was a hell of a conversation — and you know what? Maybe that was the universe telling us to go again. Because this one hit different.</p> <p>Connor Koch is one of those guys who just operates on a different level. Arc&#8217;teryx ambassador for seven years, a man who&#8217;s climbed every 14er in the lower 48, skied big lines from Alaska to the High Sierra, and survived an 1,100-foot avalanche ride in ways that defy explanation. He&#8217;s the real deal. And now? He&#8217;s deep in the hunting rabbit hole, chasing elk solo through grizzly country with a bow he just learned to shoot, logging 70-plus days in the field and coming home with the kind of stories that remind you why we do all of this.</p> <p>We cover a lot of ground in this one. Connor grew up in a tiny San Diego-area town, never saw mountains until his Nissan&#8217;s transmission blew up somewhere near a place called Zzyzx on the way to Colorado. He pulled into Vail Pass, jumped out into the June air, and knew — at a cellular level, he says — that he&#8217;d found home. That moment launched a decade of elite mountain pursuits that would shape everything that came after.</p> <p>We dig into what it&#8217;s like to be a master of one discipline and a beginner in another — and how humbling it is when all your fitness and mental toughness still can&#8217;t outwit a wily bull elk. Connor talks about burning a shot opportunity 45 minutes into his first day of bow hunting, running 70+ days solo in the backcountry, getting his camp ripped apart by a known problem grizz the same night he hit a bull high, and why he doesn&#8217;t regret any of it. That&#8217;s the journey. That&#8217;s the process.</p> <p>But it goes way deeper than hunting. Connor opens up about the avalanche that changed him — a full slope that fractured wall to wall, a 1,100-foot washing machine ride, karate-chopping blocks of wind slab before getting obliterated, and emerging from the toe of the debris alive while his partners tunneled out around him. He talks about what that does to your relationship with risk, with the mountains, and with yourself. And then, the hardest decision of his career: turning down a prepackaged invite to ski 8,000-meter peaks in Pakistan, not because he couldn&#8217;t do it, but because he finally understood that some pages in your book are okay to leave blank.</p> <p>This is a conversation about reinvention, risk tolerance, the courage to step off the ship when it&#8217;s time, and what happens when a man who spent a decade trying to conquer mountains starts learning to be conquered by elk season. Oh, and also — he&#8217;s catering his entire wedding with two cow elk and some deer he harvested himself. That&#8217;s the kind of dude Connor Koch is.<br /> Pull up a chair. This one&#8217;s worth every minute.</p> <p><strong>This Episode Is Brought To You By</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>onX Hunt</strong></a><br /> If you&#8217;re serious about hunting out west, onX isn&#8217;t optional — it&#8217;s foundational. Land ownership, access, terrain, and a full suite of tools built for every part of the hunt: the planning, the prep, and the pursuit. The difference is simple. It&#8217;s confidence. Confidence that you&#8217;re in the right spot, confidence that you&#8217;re legal, confidence that you can get back to the truck. That&#8217;s what onX gives you.</p> <p>Become an Elite Member today and save 20% with code TRO<br /> Visit: <a href="https://www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">www.onxmaps.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Bridger Watch</strong></a><br /> This one&#8217;s personal — Bridger Watch is Cody Rich&#8217;s own company, so yeah, shameless plug incoming. It&#8217;s a full-feature smartwatch built by hunters, for the hunting lifestyle. Not just for the hunt, but for everything that surrounds it. Training, mapping, texts, and most importantly: insane battery life. Because battery life matters in the backcountry, full stop. If you&#8217;re a watch guy, you already get it. No compromise, no fluff. Just a watch built the way it should&#8217;ve been built all along.</p> <p>Visit: <a href="https://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss</a></p> <p><strong>Timestamp Chapters</strong><br /> 0:00 — Intro &amp; Sponsor Reads — onX Hunt and Bridger Watch<br /> 2:15 — The Lost Episode: A Cop, a Bow, and a County Line<br /> 4:00 — Connor Gets His Life Back in Order — Four Months of Spring Skiing<br /> 5:00 — The Purcells and the High Sierra — Whitney, Muir, Langley, and a Broken Binding<br /> 7:00 — 30,000-Foot View: Arc&#8217;teryx, Mountain Pursuits, and a Big Boy Job<br /> 9:00 — Climbing Every 14er in the Lower 48 — And Why the Number Is Arbitrary<br /> 10:30 — The Origin Story: Erik Weihenmayer, a Blown Transmission, and Finding Home in Colorado<br /> 14:00 — Arriving at Vail Pass and Knowing — The Moment That Changed Everything<br /> 15:00 — Identity, Selfishness, and the Next Chapter<br /> 17:00 — Close Calls: A Rubber Band, a Carabiner, and 200 Feet of Air<br /> 19:00 — How Hunting Fills the Gap — And Gives You a More Complete Relationship With the Landscape<br /> 22:00 — Vert Records, Big Days, and Getting Old<br /> 23:00 — Bringing a Mountain Athlete&#8217;s Mindset Into Elk Hunting — Asset or Liability?<br /> 26:00 — Going Solo: Three Months, a Bow, and the Backcountry<br /> 27:00 — Losing a Bull on September 15th — The Shot, the Rain, and the Grizzly<br /> 31:00 — What It Means to Really Want Something and Not Get It<br /> 33:00 — Elk Hunting Is Not Meritocracy — And That&#8217;s the Point<br /> 37:00 — Visualizing Success: How Pre-Prep and Commitment Breed Confidence<br /> 38:00 — Confidence in the Face of Doubt — The Dark Arts of High-Exposure Terrain<br /> 43:00 — A Duty to the Animal: Why He Never Considered Leaving Camp<br /> 45:00 — Hunting as a New Relationship With Death — Feeding His Wedding on Wild Elk<br /> 47:00 — Wild Pigs, Weddings, and Getting Attacked at the Worst Possible Moment<br /> 49:00 — The Honest Ratio: 70 Days to One Elk<br /> 52:00 — If You Only Had 10 Days: The Discipline of Slowing Down<br /> 55:00 — Day One, 45 Minutes In, Five-Point at 42 Yards — And Why He Let Him Walk<br /> 58:00 — The Advice No One Wants to Hear: Passing Elk Builds the Best Hunters<br /> 1:00:00 — Confidence on the Skinny: Why Doubt Has No Place on Exposed Terrain<br /> 1:01:00 — The First Avalanche — Skiing Into a Rock Wall and Getting Shepherded Out with One Hand<br /> 1:03:00 — The Second Avalanche — An 1,100-Foot Ride, a Bag of Costco Mangoes, and Everyone Lives<br /> 1:11:00 — Redefining Risk and Stepping Back From the Edge<br /> 1:13:00 — Stealing Fire, Broken Necks, and the Identity Shift Into Bow Hunting<br /> 1:16:00 — The Pakistan Trip He Had to Turn Down — And Why He&#8217;s Finally Okay With Blank Pages<br /> 1:21:00 — What It Means to Move Into the Next Chapter<br /> 1:22:30 — Final Ask: Try the Thing That Scares You<br /> 1:23:30 — Wrap-Up and Watch Plug</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>3 Key Takeaways for Listeners</strong></p> <p>1. Your Greatest Strength in One Arena Can Be Your Biggest Weakness in Another<br /> Connor came into elk hunting as an elite mountain athlete — faster, fitter, and more mentally tough than almost anyone in the field. And it nearly worked against him. He was blowing out animals by moving too fast, pushing wind when he shouldn&#8217;t have, covering miles that didn&#8217;t need covering. The hard-won lesson: hunting rewards patience and animal knowledge above all else. Fitness is a tool, not a cheat code. The most valuable thing a hunter can develop — that gut intuition built from thousands of hours of observation — can&#8217;t be outworked or outrun. Know what you bring to the table, and be honest about where the gaps are.</p> <p>2. The Process Is the Point — Not Just a Cliché<br /> Connor spent 70+ days chasing elk solo and came home with hard-earned lessons he wouldn&#8217;t trade for anything. He let a five-point walk at 42 yards on day one. He lost a bull to a high hit, a rainstorm, and a problem grizzly. He laid in his shredded tent for days still searching. And he says he doesn&#8217;t regret any of it. Not because it sounds good, but because every one of those moments compounded into something real. The hunters who last — and who eventually become consistently successful — are the ones who decide early that the journey is the whole thing, not a detour on the way to the outcome.</p> <p>3. Knowing When to Step Off the Ship Is Its Own Kind of Courage<br /> One of the most powerful moments in this conversation is when Connor talks about turning down an invite to ski 8,000-meter peaks in Pakistan — a trip he&#8217;d been dreaming about for years. Not because he was scared. Not because he couldn&#8217;t do it. But because he finally understood that some chapters have to close so others can open. He&#8217;d survived avalanches, close calls, and years of operating on the edge, and he arrived at a place of genuine peace with leaving certain pages in his book blank. That kind of self-awareness — knowing your season, honoring your current chapter, and resisting the pull of old identity — is rare. And it applies way beyond the mountains.</p>
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Trail Cams, Habitat IQ, and Building Tactacam: Conversation with Jeff Peel
APR 30, 2026
Trail Cams, Habitat IQ, and Building Tactacam: Conversation with Jeff Peel
<p><strong>EP 680: Jeff Peel | Tactacam<br /> </strong>What does it actually take to build something from nothing in the hunting industry?</p> <p>Not the polished version — the real one. The trailer-hooked-to-the-back-of-a-Buick-Enclave, sell-your-house, answer-customer-service-calls-at-4AM version. That&#8217;s exactly what Jeff of Tactacam pulls back the curtain on in this episode, and man, it&#8217;s one of the more refreshing conversations I&#8217;ve had on this podcast.</p> <p>Jeff and his wife Tara started Tactacam with almost nothing — a plastic folding table, a dream, and an obsession with taking care of customers in an industry that had largely forgotten how. What started as a point-of-view hunting camera has grown into a 500-employee powerhouse that now dominates the cellular trail camera market. But the part nobody tells you? It took 10 years of brute force to make it look like an overnight success.</p> <p>We dig into the pivot from software to hardware (and why everyone told him not to), the customer-first philosophy that drives a $2 million monthly CS budget, and the launch of Habitat IQ — a genuinely exciting AI-powered platform that takes the collective knowledge of the country&#8217;s best whitetail property managers and turns it into actionable data for your specific ground. Think SimCity meets your food plot plan meets 20 years of Jeff Sturgis notebooks.</p> <p>And yeah, we talk about dream hunts. Jeff&#8217;s answer? Polar bear with a bow on frozen ocean where you&#8217;re the bait. His wife thinks he&#8217;s crazy. I get it.</p> <p>Whether you&#8217;re a hunter who loves to nerd out on habitat, an entrepreneur trying to figure out how to break into the outdoor industry, or someone who just wants to hear what it actually looks like to bet everything on something you believe in — <em><strong>this one&#8217;s for you.</strong></em></p> <p><strong>Timestamp Chapters</strong><br /> 0:00 Intro &amp; Sponsor – OnX Hunt<br /> 1:30 Sponsor – Bridger Watch<br /> 3:00 Welcome Jeff Peel | Catching Up on Spring Hunting Plans<br /> 5:30 The Origin Story – From Cemeteries to Cameras<br /> 9:00 Meeting Ben Stern &amp; The Decision to Go All In<br /> 12:00 The First Employee, the First Trade Show, the Buick Enclave<br /> 15:30 Why They Won – Customer Service as a Competitive Moat<br /> 20:00 Advice for Entrepreneurs Looking to Break Into the Outdoor Industry<br /> 24:30 The Pivot to Cellular Trail Cameras – Did He See It Coming?<br /> 29:00 Hardware is Hard – Why Everyone Said Don&#8217;t Do It (And Why He Did Anyway)<br /> 33:30 Building the Tech Team &amp; Why the CTO Was the Most Important Hire<br /> 37:00 Habitat IQ – The Genesis of an AI-Powered Property Management Tool<br /> 43:00 How Cameras &amp; Habitat IQ Work Together to Track Real Deer Movement Data<br /> 47:30 How Far Should Technology Go in Hunting? Drawing the Line<br /> 52:00 Dream Animals – Polar Bear with a Bow on Frozen Ocean<br /> 55:30 Tara&#8217;s Retirement Season – 5 Deer, All the Jealousy<br /> 57:30 Why Billings, Montana? Elk. That&#8217;s Why.<br /> 59:30 Where to Follow Tactacam &amp; Wrap Up</p> <p><strong>Episode Sponsors</strong><br /> <strong>OnX Hunt</strong><br /> If you&#8217;re serious about hunting out west, OnX isn&#8217;t optional — it&#8217;s foundational. Land ownership, access, terrain, and a full suite of tools not just for the hunt itself but for the planning, the scouting, and everything that goes into being a backcountry hunter. The difference is simple: it&#8217;s confidence. Confidence you&#8217;re in the right spot. Confidence you&#8217;re legal. Confidence you can get back to the truck. Download the OnX Hunt app and become an elite member today.<br /> Use code TRO to save 20% on your membership.<br /> <a href="https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/app?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">Website: onxmaps.com</a></p> <p><strong>Bridger Watch</strong><br /> This one&#8217;s personal — Bridger Watch is Cody&#8217;s company, and it&#8217;s a full-featured smartwatch built by hunters, for hunters. Not a general-use watch with a camo skin slapped on it. A purpose-built tool designed for the hunting lifestyle from the ground up. It trains with you in the off-season, maps your hunts, handles your texts, and delivers the one thing every backcountry hunter knows matters most: insane battery life. No compromise. No fluff. Just the watch the hunting world has been waiting for.<br /> Use code TRO at checkout for a discount.<br /> <a href="http://www.bridgerwatch.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">Website: bridgerwatch.com</a></p> <p><strong>3 Key Takeaways</strong><br /> 1. Overnight successes take about 10 years.<br /> Jeff was told at a trade show early in his career: &#8220;It was an overnight success — in only 10 years.&#8221; He sold his house, hooked a trailer to his wife&#8217;s Buick, and drove the country hitting every dealer and trade show they could find. If you&#8217;re building something and it feels like it should be further along by now, this episode is a reminder that the grind you&#8217;re in right now IS the success story being written.</p> <p>2. Customer service isn&#8217;t a cost center — it&#8217;s your moat.<br /> Tactacam spends $2 million a month on customer service and has a 98% retention rate that rivals Netflix and Spotify. In a world where most companies have made it nearly impossible to talk to a real human, simply picking up the phone and knowing your product is a genuinely unfair competitive advantage. If you own a business — any business — this is worth writing down.</p> <p>3. Habitat IQ could legitimately change how average hunters manage their ground.<br /> The idea behind Habitat IQ — scoring your property, simulating changes like new food plots or bedding improvements, and connecting it all to your real camera data — is genuinely one of the most useful applications of AI for hunters I&#8217;ve heard of. This isn&#8217;t tech for tech&#8217;s sake. It&#8217;s taking the collective knowledge of the best whitetail minds in the country and making it accessible for the guy with 80 acres and a weekend to hunt. Keep an eye on this one.</p>
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