Theology on Mission

Can the Bible still guide faithful political engagement—or has it been too abused to help? In this timely conversation, Dave Fitch and Mike Moore welcome theologian, author, and Holy Post co-host Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss her book The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here.Together, they explore how American Christians have wielded (and often weaponized) the Bible in public life. From Romans 13 and the Revolutionary War to slavery, civil rights, and the rise of Christian nationalism. Kaitlyn offers both a critique of misuse and a hopeful invitation: to reclaim Scripture as a source of wisdom, hospitality, and faithful witness in the public square.🎙️ In This Episode:Why the Bible still matters for politics (even after all the misuse)How Romans 13 has been used to justify everything from rebellion to tyrannyThe disturbing history of biblical defenses of slavery and what we can learn from Black interpretersHow the civil rights movement modeled faithful, embodied, Scripture-shaped resistanceWhy pastors and leaders must form people for faithfulness, not just political alignment📌 Highlights:[00:06:00] How Scripture became “weaponized” in the American Revolution[00:13:00] Romans 13 and the danger of using the Bible to win political arguments[00:19:00] How enslaved believers read the Bible differently and more faithfully than their oppressors[00:27:00] MLK and the Black Church as a model for Scripture-shaped activism[00:33:00] Why true political discipleship starts in the church, not the stateThe problem isn’t that the Bible speaks to politics; it’s that we’ve forgotten how to let it form us before we use it. The call today is not to abandon Scripture in public life but to recover its use as an act of love, truth, and hospitality.📚 Resources Mentioned:The Ballot and the Bible by Kaitlyn SchiessThe Liturgy of Politics by Kaitlyn SchiessThe Spirit of Our Politics by Michael WearReckoning with Power by David FitchThe Christian Imagination by Willie James JenningsThe Fire in My Bones by Albert RaboteauResident Aliens by Stanley Hauerwas & William WillimonWhen Scripture is used to defend power instead of form faith, everyone loses. What would it look like to read the Bible not to win debates, but to become the kind of people who can love, listen, and lead in public as followers of Jesus?

What if racism isn’t primarily about ignorance or hate, but about greed? In this episode, Dave Fitch and guest co-host Gino Curcuruto sit down with Dr. Malcolm Foley, pastor, scholar, and author of The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward.Dr. Foley unpacks how economic exploitation lies at the heart of racial injustice—and why Jesus’ warning that “you cannot serve both God and mammon” is as urgent today as ever. Together they explore the demonic cycle of self-interest that perpetuates racism through exploitation, violence, and lies, and they offer a vision for Christian communities shaped by deep economic solidarity, creative nonviolence, and prophetic truth-telling.🎙️ In This Episode:Why greed—not hate—is the true root of racismHow capitalism and racial hierarchy became intertwinedThe role of mammon as a spiritual power deforming the churchWhy anti-racism and reparations often miss the deeper structural sinHow the church can become a visible alternative to exploitation and fear📌 Highlights:[00:09:00] Race as a “demonic cycle” of exploitation, violence, and lies[00:13:00] How greed drives racialized slavery, lynching, and modern inequities[00:18:00] Why the church must flee mammon, not just manage it[00:24:00] The Sermon on the Mount as a blueprint for kingdom economics[00:35:00] How local churches can witness through economic solidarity and love of enemiesWe can’t end racism without confronting greed. The good news: the church already holds the resources to resist mammon and embody a new economy of grace.📚 Resources Mentioned:The Anti-Greed Gospel by Malcolm Foley (Brazos Press)Asian Americans and the Spirit of Racial Capitalism by Jonathan TranGod’s Reign and the End of Empires by Antonio GonzálezReckoning with Power by David FitchMosaic Church WacoMalcolm Foley at Baylor UniversityWhat if a true test of discipleship isn’t how we treat differences but how we handle money? How could your church become a community of economic solidarity, creative peace, and prophetic truth in the face of mammon’s pull?

What happens when church leadership shifts from pulpits to platforms? In this episode, Dave Fitch and guest co-host Gino Curcuruto unpack Carl Trueman’s article, “Goodbye Big Eva, Hello Gig Eva,” exploring how evangelical culture has moved from the conference stage to the influencer feed, and what that means for the church.Together, they trace the shift from “Big Eva” (celebrity pastors and large conferences) to “Gig Eva” (independent online influencers shaping faith outside accountability or community). The conversation wrestles with how this new ecosystem forms pastors, congregations, and the public imagination of what “church” even is and calls for a recovery of embodied, local, presence-based ministry.🎙️ In This Episode:The difference between Big Eva and Gig Eva—and why both shape the church’s imaginationHow digital influence redefines leadership, authority, and credibilityThe danger of disembodied discipleship and social media “theology”Why pastors must resist measuring faithfulness by metrics or clicksHow to reclaim embodied church in an age of platform-driven ministry📌 Highlights:[00:07:00] “Big Eva” as the era of celebrity pastors and conference platforms[00:10:00] “Gig Eva” as the rise of influencers without local accountability[00:17:00] How online perception replaces real discipleship[00:24:00] The lure of success, self-promotion, and burnout in ministry[00:33:00] Embodied church as the faithful alternative to the gig economyThe future of the church isn’t in virality, it’s in presence. Faithful ministry grows from local soil, not from algorithms. The way forward is slow, small, and deeply relational.📖 Resources Mentioned:“Goodbye Big Eva, Hello Gig Eva” by Carl Trueman (First Things)The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl R. TruemanReckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power by David FitchThe Strategically Small Church by Brandon O’BrienThe Glass Church and The Church Must Grow or Perish by Gerardo Marti & Mark MulderTable Philly ChurchFitch’s Provocations (Substack)What does it mean to lead faithfully when “success” is measured by followers, not fruit? How can your church move from digital performance to embodied presence?

What’s really driving America’s political chaos, and what does it mean for the church? In this episode, Dave Fitch and Mike Moore dig beneath partisan headlines to uncover the deeper philosophical divide shaping our cultural and theological conflicts. Fitch traces the roots of our polarization to two competing political visions: liberal democracy (centered on individual freedom) and national conservatism (centered on shared cultural values).From there, they explore how both sides fall short and why neither has room for the church. The conversation turns toward what it means for Christians to embody a third way: a politic of the kingdom rooted in community, discipleship, and the lordship of Christ.🎙️ In This Episode:The deep ideological divide behind America’s political warsLiberal democracy vs. national conservatism—what each gets right (and wrong)How both sides sideline the churchWhy coercion and individualism can never produce kingdom lifeWhat pastors can do to lead faithfully in a polarized world📌 Highlights:[00:05:00] The individual vs. the collective—two visions of society[00:10:00] Why Christian nationalism fails in a multicultural world[00:15:00] Hauerwas, Rawls, and the politics of virtue[00:21:00] The church as an alternative politic[00:24:00] “Start with five people”: how pastors can build kingdom communities amid chaosBoth liberal democracy and national conservatism promise freedom, but only the church can form people to live free in Christ. When Christians embody the politics of Jesus together, they become the living alternative our polarized world desperately needs.

Two weeks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Dave Fitch and Mike Moore process the grief, confusion, and cultural fallout surrounding his death. Beyond the tragedy, they explore what Charlie Kirk symbolized in American Christianity—and what his influence reveals about the modern church’s failures in discipleship, community, and cultural engagement.Fitch argues that Kirk’s rise, and the polarization surrounding him, exposes an empty ecclesiology: a Christianity shaped more by individualism and ideology than by the life of the local church. Together, the hosts ask hard questions about power, influence, and the role of the church in a politically divided age.Charlie Kirk as a Cultural Symbol (Part 1): https://substack.com/home/post/p-173936722 Charlie Kirk is a Cultural Symbol (Part 2): https://davidfitch.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-is-a-cultural-symbol 🎙️ In This Episode:The difference between Charlie Kirk the person and Charlie Kirk the cultural symbolHow antagonism replaces real conversation in our political and religious discourseThe church’s failure to disciple young people and engage complex moral questionsWhy “influencers” are filling the space the church has vacatedHow individualistic faith leads to political idolatry📌 Highlights:[00:05:00] Why Charlie Kirk became a master signifier of political identity[00:10:00] How antagonism keeps us from addressing real issues on the ground[00:15:00] The influencer as a substitute for the church[00:22:00] The hunger of young men for direction and discipleship[00:27:00] From personal faith to political power: how individualism fuels Christian nationalismCharlie Kirk’s rise and death reveal both the brokenness of our political moment and the vacuum left by the church’s retreat from public discipleship. Until the church reclaims its call to embody the presence and power of Jesus in community, political idols will keep filling the gap.