Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Bret Fisher

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Where LLMs, AI Agents, and MCP tools meet DevOps and platform engineering. How can we humans use non-deterministic, often hallucinating LLMs to automate our infrastructure and help us with the job of software lifecycle management? I’m Bret Fisher, and this is the Agentic DevOps podcast. After the invention of AI Agents and the MCP standard in late 2024, I started this podcast in early '25 with a narrow topic focus… to document and advise how AI Agents, MCP tools, and large language models can be used in the real world for assisting with DevOps automation, platform engineering, and day to day systems operations… a podcast series hopefully without the hand-wavy AI hype or dreams of a pure AI workforce. I'm joined by expert guests trying to make use of crazy texting robots.

Recent Episodes

SEP 25, 2026
Rogue AI or Just Sloppy Ops?
The OpenAI Hugging Face hack. The Anthropic testing failures. Listen to the security and ops experts, not lab researchers. I walk you through the production failures that allowed OpenAI’s models to access the internet, and what we can learn from the last few months on how to protect our systems and data. Let’s stop debating imaginary outcomes and start working through that security backlog in our infrastructure. I agree with the labs needing to slow down, but not because I believe AI will do uncontrollable harm on humans, but because the labs clearly need better production security and ops teams and more advanced lab infrastructure that’s been properly hardened. They also need to become a production ops security innovator and share that knowledge far and wide. Watch the video of this episode. Thanks to SpeechifyAI for sponsoring this podcast. Get started for free. Check the benchmarks for Best Provider Text-to-Speech. 😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs. ★Articles★ The Hugging Face Incident Is Not an AI Story - Marius Horatau From Frenzy to Freakout - Ciaran Martin & Professor Alan Woodward Stop Freaking Out and Start Fixing Things - SANS Institute Fragments: September 8th - Martin Fowler When AI can do more than we can check - Christian Catalini I'm sorry, you're not going to die from an AI-engineered supervirus - Claus Wilke This Week in Security - Zack Whittaker ★Other stuff★ 'Big Short' investor Steve Eisman on AI: The companies are trying to manufacture a crisis - CNBC xkcd: Dependency - so much of our systems are this. xkcd: Python Environment - and also this. Defense Factory - OpenAI Investigating three real-world incidents in our cybersecurity evaluations - Anthropic Anatomy of a Frontier Lab Agent Intrusion: A Technical Timeline of the July 2026 Incident - Hugging Face My recommended podspec, with seccomp enabled - Bret Fisher Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Start (01:51) - Speechify AI (03:04) - The Hugging Face Incident: Facts (07:07) - Attack Timeline & Escalation (15:33) - Root Cause: Infrastructure Failure (21:15) - Expert Analysis: From Frenzy to Freak Out (23:41) - Martin's Key Points (28:13) - Expert Analysis: Alan Woodward (34:47) - SANS Institute Takeaways (37:47) - Other Good Resources ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
42 MIN
AUG 21, 2026
AI Agent Sandboxing with Nono
Luke Hinds, co-founder of nolabs Inc. and the nono project, joins me to dig into AI agent sandboxing with the nono CLI. It's been my go-to sandboxing tool for local agent use, but I know there are more features I should be using, like secure secrets injection and egress URL path control. Watch the video of this episode. Thanks to SpeechifyAI for sponsoring this podcast. Get started for free. Check the benchmarks for Best Provider Text-to-Speech. 😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs. ★Show Links★ nono website nono repo on GitHub nolabs website OpenSSF SLSA Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Luke Hinds - Guest You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (04:40) - SLSA (07:38) - Nono Origin and Quickstart (12:19) - Nono Elevator Pitch (22:22) - How Nono Works in Practice (46:42) - DEMO (50:35) - What's Next for Nono? ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
64 MIN
AUG 1, 2026
AI-Native Engineering Culture from a CTO
My friend Mike Rollins joins me for a chat about what it’s like leading a software engineering team that doesn’t read code anymore. Click here to watch a video of this episode. Thanks to SpeechifyAI for sponsoring this podcast. Get started for free. Check the benchmarks for Best Provider Text-to-Speech 😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs. ★Show Links★ https://github.com/rollinsio/delta-v-dev-container-boilerplate https://github.com/rollinsio/beyond-test-coverage (expand your testing strength) https://rollins.io/ https://www.instagram.com/rollins.io Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Mike Rollins - Guest You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast (02:14) - Welcome Mike (02:23) - Mike Rollins AI First Journey (06:55) - Speechify.AI (07:57) - Agentic Delivery and Safety Nets (17:50) - PR to Production (35:10) - Testing and PR Chaos (47:49) - Harness Safety and Cost (54:25) - Maturity Milestones and Wrap ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
64 MIN
JUN 17, 2026
Safer Agent Automation with GitHub Agentic Workflows
A deep dive into GitHub’s Agentic Workflows feature, with Don Syme of GitHub Next & Peli de Halleux of Microsoft Research. Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/zmM8VISTOwo 😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs. ★Show Links★ https://githubnext.com/projects/agentic-workflows/ https://github.github.com/gh-aw/ https://githubnext.com/projects/continuous-ai/ https://github.com/githubnext/repo-assist-impact/blob/main/report.md https://github.com/microsoft/apm Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Don Syme - Guest Peli de Halleux - Guest You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast (10:42) - Agentic Workflows Explained (17:43) - Toil, Repo Assist, and Guardrails (36:44) - Why Agents Need Guardrails (38:45) - Deterministic Security Box (57:16) - Repo Assist in Action (01:04:51) - Async Agent Workflow (01:10:16) - Workflow Optimization Tricks (01:12:03) - Agentic Enterprise Future ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
90 MIN
MAY 6, 2026
AI SREs, Chat With Your Infrastructure with Anyshift
Bret’s joined by the Anyshift.io co-founders, Roxane Fischer and Stephane Jourdan to discuss how an always-on SRE agent can help you proactively find risks and avoid incidents. 😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs. This edited version is from my live stream show Apr 9, 2026: https://www.youtube.com/live/-DHZwxXigYI?si=9JnQYp8UZG27Bp2X&t=232 ★Show Links★ Anyshift website Annie CLI Blog post: Agentic Context Engineering in Production: How AI Agents Build Institutional Expertise Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Roxane Fischer - Guest Stephane Jourdan - Guest You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord. Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box Homepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Introduction (03:09) - Meet Anyshift and the big idea (03:29) - When Was Anyshift Created? (07:13) - Context graphs and agent workflows (24:31) - Permissions and Auditing (28:16) - Memory and Context Graph (47:07) - Roadmap and Wrap Up ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
52 MIN