Behind the Gates

Ed Chapman & Michael Herd

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Join us for wide-ranging conversations with guests from around the world as we approach every topic with Private Club management and leadership. Who are your hosts? Ed Chapman, CCM, PGA - a Club hospitality professional and current CEO of Royal Auckland & Grange Golf Club in New Zealand, who has worked in four countries on three continents over the past 20 years in Clubs. Michael Herd - one of the industry's leading recruiters, Head of International Search & Consulting for Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace, and Club aficionado who has placed some of the best managers at some of the most distinguished Clubs in the world. If you enjoy listening then please join your peers by subscribing through your favourite podcast listening app and leave a review to help others with similar interests find this show more easily. FOLLOW https://behindthegates.riverside.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/behindthegatespodcast

Recent Episodes

SEP 20, 2026
Tim Neil | Building culture is about doing the reps!
This week we are joined by Tim Neil, PGA, LLM, General Manager of Hann Reserve. The conversation delves into the importance of quality time over quantity time, effective time management, education and career pathways, adapting to new cultures, and the significance of leadership and human connection. It emphasises the value of engaging activities, curiosity, and empathy in personal and professional growth, as well as the impact of cultural adaptation and human connection in leadership roles. Connect with Tim via email [email protected] Takeaways Quality time is more valuable than quantity time Curiosity and empathy are essential for personal and professional growth Chapters 00:00 Journey from PGA Professional to General Manager 07:16 Culture Building and Leadership at Al Badia 18:58 Transition to Strategic Thinking 22:20 Pursuing a Master's in Law 27:14 Work-Life Harmony and Time Management 31:26 Quality Time vs. Quantity Time 32:31 Effective Time Management 34:25 Education and Career Pathways 39:07 Adapting to New Cultures 44:06 Leadership and Human Connection This episode is brought to you by: Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace. The most trusted name in executive search and consulting. People focused, quality driven. https://kkandw.com Club Connections. Club Connections works with private clubs globally to strengthen member experience through better communication, storytelling and engagement. Founded by Emily McCarvill, the business partners with clubs to ensure the way they communicate reflects the culture and standards behind the gates. https://www.linkedin.com/company/clubconnections SHANX Mini Golf. SHANX Mini Golf is an Australian company known for producing some of the world's best mini golf courses. https://shanxminigolf.com.au They’re not the typical novelty putt-putt with windmills and clowns—instead, they build bespoke, high-quality 18-hole courses using synthetic turf, challenging terrain inspired by actual golf, often located at or near real golf clubs. Their architect is responsible for a few world top 100 golf courses too! Contact the SHANX team and mention BTG podcast for a complimentary site feasibility assessment!
45 MIN
SEP 6, 2026
Desi Speh, CCM, CMAA Fellow | Leading Authentically
Desi Speh, CEO of the Desert Highlands Association, shares his journey from a young golf enthusiast to a successful leader in the club industry. He emphasises the importance of being authentic, finding the right cultural fit, and building trust in the workplace. Desi's approach to hiring and leadership fosters a family-like environment at Desert Highlands, where values and culture are paramount. The conversation covers the challenges and qualities of effective leadership, the transition from number two to number one roles, and the importance of work-life balance in leadership roles. Takeaways Authenticity and cultural fit are crucial in the club industry Building trust and embracing a family-like environment leads to success Effective leadership requires humility and the ability to step back and trust the team. Transitioning from a number two to a number one role requires careful consideration of the right opportunity and the individual's strengths and weaknesses. Work-life balance is crucial for leadership success and requires open communication and support from family and team members. Chapters 00:00 Journey in the Golf Industry 06:02 Balancing Seriousness and Fun 09:15 Being Authentic in Leadership 17:53 Finding Good People and Cultural Fit 22:35 Hiring for Culture and Values 25:37 The Great Man Theory and Effective Leadership 34:39 Transitioning from Number Two to Number One 47:49 Work-Life Balance in Leadership This episode is brought to you by: Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace. The most trusted name in executive search and consulting. People focused, quality driven. https://kkandw.com Club Connections. Club Connections works with private clubs globally to strengthen member experience through better communication, storytelling and engagement. Founded by Emily McCarvill, the business partners with clubs to ensure the way they communicate reflects the culture and standards behind the gates. https://www.linkedin.com/company/clubconnections/ SHANX Mini Golf. SHANX Mini Golf is an Australian company known for producing some of the world's best mini golf courses. https://shanxminigolf.com.au They’re not the typical novelty putt-putt with windmills and clowns—instead, they build bespoke, high-quality 18-hole courses using synthetic turf, challenging terrain inspired by actual golf, often located at or near real golf clubs. Their architect is responsible for a few world top 100 golf courses too! Contact the SHANX team and mention BTG podcast for a complimentary site feasibility assessment!
47 MIN
AUG 23, 2026
Javier Reviriego | Curiosity & Education
The conversation with Javier Reviriego, CEO of Real Club Valderrama, covers his journey to the role, the importance of education, leadership, experience, transition to hotel operations, curiosity, continuous improvement, preparing for board meetings, building trust and credibility, handling pressure and expectations, and professional tournaments and golf IQ. The conversation delves into the impact of tournaments on branding and positioning, the decision-making process for hosting Liv Andalusia, the transition to Valderrama, dealing with resistance and change, and considerations for changing roles. Javier shares insights on the challenges and opportunities associated with these themes, providing valuable perspectives for golf club management professionals. Takeaways Passion for learning Importance of education Tournaments as a Branding Strategy Challenges of Transitioning to a New Role Chapters 00:00 Journey to Valderrama 02:52 The Role of Education 05:56 Leadership and Experience 08:06 Transition to Hotel Operations 09:56 Curiosity and Continuous Improvement 12:10 Preparing for Board Meetings 14:48 Building Trust and Credibility 18:58 Handling Pressure and Expectations 24:53 Professional Tournaments and Golf IQ 26:14 The Impact of Tournaments on Branding 28:20 Decision Making for Hosting Liv Andalusia 33:42 Transitioning to Valderrama 36:22 Dealing with Resistance and Change 42:46 Considerations for Changing Roles This episode is brought to you by Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace. The most trusted name in executive search and consulting. People focused, quality driven. Club Connections. Club Connections works with private clubs globally to strengthen member experience through better communication, storytelling and engagement. Founded by Emily McCarvill, the business partners with clubs to ensure the way they communicate reflects the culture and standards behind the gates. SHANX Mini Golf. SHANX Mini Golf is an Australian company known for producing some of the world's best mini golf courses. They’re not the typical novelty putt-putt with windmills and clowns—instead, they build bespoke, high-quality 18-hole courses using synthetic turf, challenging terrain inspired by actual golf, often located at or near real golf clubs. Their architect is responsible for a few world top 100 golf courses too! Contact the SHANX team and mention BTG podcast for a complimentary site feasibility assessment!
47 MIN
AUG 2, 2026
Review of the First 10 Episodes
The podcast review covers a range of topics, including reflections on past episodes, Ryan Fox's Open Championship win, authenticity, candid moments, insights from Jim Rohrstaff, Denny Corby's perspective on hospitality and magic, Tom Wallace's journey and leveraged leadership, Sarab Singh's authenticity and empathy, Elaine Patterson's perspective on personal and professional prioritization, accepting the price of success, Chris DeChillo's perspective on compromise and tradition, and Scott Clark's transition from PGA professional to GM. The conversation covers a range of leadership and management topics, including delegation, career progression, team engagement, work-life harmony, adaptability, and podcast reflections. The guests share insights on leadership skills, career transitions, cultural understanding, and the importance of balance in work and personal life. Takeaways Authenticity and candid moments are key themes throughout the episodes. The importance of personal and professional prioritization for success and fulfillment. Delegation as a leadership skill Balancing work and personal life Chapters 00:00 Reflecting on Past Episodes 01:21 Ryan Fox's Open Championship Win 02:23 Authenticity and Candid Moments 03:43 John Blanch's Experience with Ryan Fox and Cam Young 04:45 Takeaways from Jim Rohrstaff's Episode 08:34 Denny Corby's Insights on Hospitality and Magic 13:11 Tom Wallace's Journey and Leveraged Leadership 16:41 Sarab Singh's Authenticity and Empathy 20:11 Elaine Patterson's Perspective on Personal and Professional Prioritization 22:18 Accepting the Price of Success 23:35 Chris DeChillo's Perspective on Compromise and Tradition 24:19 Scott Clark's Transition from PGA Professional to GM 24:51 Leadership and Delegation 25:26 Career Progression and Adaptability 28:03 Leadership and Team Engagement 30:18 Work-Life Harmony 38:09 Adaptability and Market Activation 41:16 Podcast Reflection and Future Plans This episode is brought to you by Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace. The most trusted name in executive search and consulting. People focused, quality driven. https://kkandw.com Club Connections. Club Connections works with private clubs globally to strengthen member experience through better communication, storytelling and engagement. Founded by Emily McCarvill, the business partners with clubs to ensure the way they communicate reflects the culture and standards behind the gates. https://www.linkedin.com/company/clubconnections/ SHANX Mini Golf. SHANX Mini Golf is an Australian company known for producing some of the world's best mini golf courses. https://shanxminigolf.com.au They’re not the typical novelty putt-putt with windmills and clowns—instead, they build bespoke, high-quality 18-hole courses using synthetic turf, challenging terrain inspired by actual golf, often located at or near real golf clubs. Their architect is responsible for a few world top 100 golf courses too! Contact the SHANX team and mention BTG podcast for a complimentary site feasibility assessment!
43 MIN
JUL 19, 2026
Nathanael Pietrzac-Swirc, CCM | How UGolf is Transforming Global Golf Management
Join us as we explore the global golf industry with Nathanael Pietrzac-Swirc, CCM, CEO of UGolf International. Discover insights on international golf management, leadership challenges across cultures, and the booming development of golf in Africa and emerging markets. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Nathaniel Piazak-Svertz 00:59 Nathaniel's Journey in Golf Management 04:08 Choosing UGolf: A Calculated Bet 09:10 UGolf's Global Operations and Management 11:37 Motivating and Training Staff in Africa 15:43 Challenges of Training and Service Standards 24:28 Government Investment in Golf in Africa 28:48 Future of Golf Development in Africa 31:38 Navigating Historical Context in Golf Development 35:11 Lessons Learned in Leadership and Management UGolf International - https://ugolf-international.com CMAE (Club Management Association of Europe) - https://www.cmae.org This episode is brought to you by Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace. The most trusted name in executive search and consulting. People focused, quality driven. https://kkandw.com Club Connections. Club Connections works with private clubs globally to strengthen member experience through better communication, storytelling and engagement. Founded by Emily McCarvill, the business partners with clubs to ensure the way they communicate reflects the culture and standards behind the gates. https://www.linkedin.com/company/clubconnections/ SHANX Mini Golf. SHANX Mini Golf is an Australian company known for producing some of the world's best mini golf courses. https://shanxminigolf.com.au They’re not the typical novelty putt-putt with windmills and clowns—instead, they build bespoke, high-quality 18-hole courses using synthetic turf, challenging terrain inspired by actual golf, often located at or near real golf clubs. Their architect is responsible for a few world top 100 golf courses too! Contact the SHANX team and mention BTG podcast for a complimentary site feasibility assessment!
40 MIN