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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy: What the Critics Get Right (and Wrong) w/ Dr. Ellen Hendriksen

SEP 21, 202693 MIN

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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is the world's most researched, recommended, and criticized form of therapy. Clinical psychologist Dr. Ellen Hendriksen joins Forrest to talk about what CBT is, its history, its strengths and weaknesses, and why it's gotten such a bad rap. They walk through the common criticisms: that it's spreadsheet therapy, that it's a form of self-gaslighting, and that it has an, er, "complex" relationship with insurance companies. They then apply the best of the CBT toolkit to Ellen's areas of expertise: self-criticism, perfectionism, procrastination, and social anxiety. About our Guest: Ellen is a clinical psychologist at Boston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders and the author of How to Be Yourself and her newest book, ⁠How to Be Enough: Self-Acceptance for Self-Critics and Perfectionists⁠. Key Topics: 00:00: Dr. Ellen Hendricksen and what differentiates CBT 7:54: Is CBT warm? 10:25: The first wave: behaviorism 19:57: The second wave: cognitive therapy and Aaron Beck 26:18: The third wave: mindfulness driven approaches 31:44: How the same problem would be handled by the three waves 34:53: Issues of fit 38:00: Critique 1: CBT is reductive 42:30: When CBT is a poor fit: trauma, intellectualizers 53:27: CBT for social anxiety and perfectionism 1:01:14: The two ingredients of perfectionism 1:07:46: Perfectionism and procrastination 1:25:07: Recap Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! ⁠If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link.⁠ Sponsors Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/beingwell⁠. MasterClass keeps adding new classes, so there’s never been a better time to get in. Get at least 15% off any annual membership at ⁠https://MasterClass.com/BEINGWELL⁠ Level up your bedding with Quince. Go to ⁠https://Quince.com/BEINGWELL⁠ for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five-day returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices