Brew Ha Ha

Steve Doty and Jason Lindell from Shady Oak Brewing join Herlinda Heras and Daedalus Howell on Brew Ha Ha. They have been on the show before, the last time was when Jason was on this episode last year before the same event. Shady Oak has two events this weekend. The Smash Burger Battle, also known as the Smash Bash II, is this Saturday. Then they are holding another edition of their record sale, on Sunday. The doors open at noon on Saturday for the Smash Burger Battle. They will have people’s choice and also judging. The live band “The Love Handles” will perform. Admission is free, all ages, pet friendly. You can call it a battle, or just a fest, depending on your appetite for competition. +++++ Visit Russian River Brewing Co. in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Check out their website and socials for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. +++++ Then on Sunday, there are thousands of records for sale, along with used gear, band shirts, live DJs, a live broadcast, an outside flea market and Micheladas. ***** Visit our sponsor Pro Chiller online for all the info about their new CO2-based Pro Green Solutions. ***** Spontaneous Beer Steve and Jason have brought three beers, all of them in un-labled growlers. One of the beers is called Hella Citra, a west coast IPA with Citra hops. Hella is just the west coast and rocky mountain slang term, not the beer style. It just has a lot of Citra hops. In the ‘80s they might have called it “Rilly Citra” but they didn’t have good beer back then yet. One of their beers is a "spontaneous beer" which is one that is 100% fermented by yeast that is in the environment, none added. It takes a dedicated and skillful brew master to pull this off.

Jason and Nitesh, the co-founders of 28 States Brewing Co. join Herlinda Heras and Daedalus Howell in the studio on Brew Ha Ha today. ProChiller Green will be performing a Proof of Concept test at Hanabi Lager on September 23, 2026, to demonstrate the ProGreen Chiller in a brewery. Visit ProChiller online for more info. 28 States Brewing was founded 11 months ago in San Francisco, named after the 28 states of India. Nitesh comes from home brewing and opening a brewery is a big step. They are making beer with Indian spices and even toasted basmati rice. The name is Desi Gaijin. Daedalus finds that it is subtle and balanced. +++++ Visit Russian River Brewing Co. in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Check out their website and socials for up-to-dated hours, menus, beers, special events and more. ++++++ Next they taste a Hefeweizen, made on an open fermenter. Nitesh explains that San Francisco has natural bacteria in the air that makes San Francisco sourdough bread special. He fermented this beer using open fermentation so he captures the same local microbes. There is a funk and a savory finish that comes from the bacteria. He will be experimenting with open and closed fermentation. It is called Haryana Weizen. Haryana is Nitesh’s native state. Weizen beer has to be 60% wheat and this is 61%. From the bar to the sales call Jason and Herlinda discover that they both were bartenders before ever working in sales. It’s a great training ground, for learning how to talk to all kinds of people. Jason met Nitesh by simply talking about beer. ****** Visit our sponsor Pro Chiller online for all the info about their new CO2-based Pro Green Solutions Chiller. ****** Nitesh was home brewing while working in tech. During Covid, when everyone was working at home, he started home brewing with advice from his mentor, Lester Koga of Barebottle Brewing. He started 28 States before he met Jason. Now there are so many flavors in is beer it’s amazing. He describes one called Mango Elaichi Sour flavored with Indian mangoes and cardamom. Herlinda will host a beer cruise from Basel, Switzerland down the Rhein past Strasbourg, France ending in Amsterdam. It will be in November 2027, because these trips are always planned well in advance. There will be local beer tastings all along the way. Imaging coming into port and taking a bike ride while the chefs go shopping in town for fresh bread and delicious foods that the countryside produces. There is a $1000 discount available up to September 30. Email [email protected] to book the cruise and get the early discount.

Larry Figueroa and Tyler Morgan join Herlinda Heras and Daedalus Howell on this special Tuesday edition of Brew Ha Ha, to talk about Lagunitas Lagufest, this Saturday September 19 at Lagunitas Brewing Company. ProChiller Green will be performing a Proof of Concept test at Hanabi Lager on September 23, 2026, to demonstrate the ProGreen Chiller in a brewery. Visit ProChiller online for more info. Larry and Tyler are Guest Experience Specialists and they have come wearing lederhosen, which are Bavarian leather shorts with suspenders. This is to begin celebrating Oktoberfest, which starts on Saturday September 19. The dates of Oktoberfest are actually tied to the harvest, not just to the calendar. In German it is Weisen, which is the harvest. So it actually begins in September. Lagunitas Lagufest Lagufest is Lagunitas Brewing’s version of Oktoberfest. Larry and Tyler have brought the two Lagunitas Lagufest beers. One is “a weak lager” Herlinda says is crisp and light. They also have a Radler which is a mix of lager beer and lemonade. The event will have a band called Polkaliscious, which will play polka versions of popular songs. There is also a stein-holding competition. Lagunitas serves pretzels year-round, and German sausage too. ++++++ Visit Russian River Brewing Co. in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Check out their website and socials for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. ++++++ Lagunitas made a classroom at the brewery available for the Craft Beer Appreciation class that Herlinda organized for Sonoma State University. Herlinda remembers some of her students were people interested in starting a craft brewery. There was also one student to enrolled so that she could talk to her son about the beers that he liked. Herlinda’s class taught her about flavors and terminology for that. The roster of guest speakers for that class included important brewers like Mark Carpenter, formerly of Anchor Brewing, and Pete Schlossberg, as well as Ron Lindenbusch who came to describe Lagunitas’ marketing, which is like no other. ****** Visit our sponsor Pro Chiller online for all the info about their new CO2-based Pro Green Solutions. ****** Daedalus notes that their mandate is to have something cool going on all the time. That means that Tyler and Larry have great jobs, and busy ones. Jeremy Marshall The Brew Monster, from Lagunitas, was also on the show recently, on this episode. A good Oktoberfest beer has to pair well with food. Beer pairs so well with food, better than wine, for some people.

Randy Mosher, the renowned author of Tasting Beer, joins Herlinda Heras and Daedalus Howell on Brew Ha Ha today. This is his first time on the show but not the first time that Herlinda has mentioned his books. Randy Mosher is one of the most well-known authors in the beer world. His book was on the reading list in the craft beer program that Herlinda taught at Sonoma State. The book Tasting Beer is in its second edition. It has been translated into 10 languages including Ukrainian. Herlinda’s friend Lana Svitankova actually did the translation. Lana was a guest on Brew Ha Ha on this episode on April 25, 2024. His new book is Your Tasting Brain: a sensory approach to wine, beer and other pleasures. He spent six years working on this book. He was always interested in tasting and understanding it. Randy’s reason for putting “Brain” and “Tasting” both in the title is so that the book would attract readers interested in psychology and also others interested in tastes and flavors. It would be stocked in two different sections of a book store. ++++++ Visit Russian River Brewing Co. on 4th St. and at their Windsor location. Click the logo to visit their website for hours, menus and beers on tap. ++++++ We can taste what our dogs can't. Through all of his research, he learned that people have a special ability to zero in on food. Most other mammals can’t smell a lot of the flavors of cooked food that we do. And we all have the same physiological sensitivity and on top of that we can learn to recognize and identify flavors. Herlinda knows this process because as she was training to get certified as a beer judge, she had to learn the names to identify all the flavors she could taste. ****** Visit our sponsor Pro Chiller online for all the info about their new CO2-based Pro Green Solutions. ****** A lot of our perception of foods focusses on flaws, because we have to be on guard against spoiled food. That is especially true when it comes to beer, where there are a lot of ways that it can go off. Because we all have the same brains and nervous systems, anyone can learn to recognize flavors. Randy suggests starting by smelling what is around you. Smell the roses, and it’s no cliché. Literally smell them and all the others. You start by trusting your taste.

Jeffrey House, The Cider King, is back with us today on Brew Ha Ha with Herlinda Heras and Daedalus Howell. He has been on Brew Ha Ha before, the last time was this episode on December 5, 2024. Pro Chiller Green will be at Hanabi Lager on September 23 for another on-site demo of their climate-friendly chiller. Chillers work not only for production of beer but also chocolate, dairies and in cider too. Check the ProChiller website for details. Jeffrey House has done a lot in his career to bring English beers to the US and to make great cider in America and taking it back to the UK. He calls himself a transatlantic missionary. Jeffrey founded Ace Cider, probably the largest craft cidery in America. He was also the one who brought British beer to America, when he brought Fuller’s London Pride in 1980s. They brought Fuller’s ESB which was a hit among all the micro-brewers. It motivated a lot of them. ESB extra-special bitter. The First California Craft Beers in Britain Jeffrey introduced Fritz Maytag to the Fuller’s people in England. He was the first to put Anchor beer on tap in Britain. Jeffrey is researching the transatlantic beer bridge because it is a history that demands to be written. ++++++ Visit Russian River Brewing Co. in Santa Rosa on 4th St. and at their big Windsor location. Check out their website and socials for up-to-date hours, menus, beers and more. ++++++ Kegs are expensive. When they finished with the Fuller’s kegs in California, they sold the empty kegs to Anchor which filled them and shipped them to the east coast and to London. Jeffrey started California Cider Company in 1993. He has told his story before on this show on this episode and also here. ****** Visit our sponsor Pro Chiller online for all the info about their new CO2-based Pro Green Solutions. ****** His book, The Cider King, has a cautionary tale about brand ownership. It is the first craft cider company in the western states after Prohibition. They started in Marin and then worked in Graton. The only other one at the time was back east, Wood Chuck. There were some English ones too, including Blackthorn. That became the biggest cider brand in the western states, during the boom of Irish and English pubs in the 1980s and ‘90s. Herlinda and Jeffrey agree that “there’s nothing like the ambience of a good pub or taproom.” After the break they discuss the second edition of Jeffrey’s book The Cider King.