Building Local Power

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Building Local Power brings you thought-provoking stories and new ideas for breaking the hold of corporate monopolies and expanding the power of communities to chart their own futures. We deliver insights from trailblazing lawmakers, scholars, business leaders, and advocates. Plus, conversations with in-house experts at the Institute for Local Self-Reliance help reveal the patterns and policies that shape our economy and communities. These stories and conversations help map solutions that distribute power to everyday people. Our newest series, The Data Centers Are Coming, brings listeners into the stories of local communities fighting back against Big Tech, corporate greed, bureaucratic secrecy, and a system that prioritizes scale at all costs.

Recent Episodes

OCT 15, 2026
The Data Centers Are Coming: Bonus Episode 2 - Fighting for Our Lives
Danny heads to Nashville to emcee a panel hosted by Stand Up Nashville, which has assembled “The Avengers” of the data center fight in the American South. But Nashville has meaningful data center regulations already in place — why is this activist group convening such a powerful panel in a city that appears to have it figured out? First, the Nashville community is demanding more, and who is Stand Up Nashville to rest on its laurels? And second, for the data center fight to succeed, it must grow from a local fight to a statewide, and even a regional one. In talking with these Tennessee changemakers, including a charismatic young legislator making good trouble in the Tennessee House, Danny finds once again that Big Tech’s efforts to divide and isolate us are actually building bridges to bring us together. In this episode, we hear from: KeShaun Pearson: Director of Memphis Community Against Pollution (MCAP) Shani Glapion: Organizer with Stand Up Nashville Representative Aftyn Behn: Representing district 51 in the Tennessee House of Representatives Christopher Mitchell: Director of ILSR’s Community Broadband initiative Odessa Kelly: Executive Director, Stand Up Nashville Elena Schlossberg: Executive Director, Coalition to Protect Prince William County Trey Bussey: Senior Attorney with the Southern Environmental Law Center (SELC) Abre' Conner: Director of the Center for Environmental and Climate Justice at the NAACP Links & Resources: Southern Environmental Law Center (Trey Bussey’s Organization): https://www.selc.org/ Protect our Aquifer (Sarah Houston’s Organization): https://www.protectouraquifer.org/ Coalition to Protect Prince William County (Elena Schlossberg’s Organization): https://protectpwc.org/ Memphis NAACP (Abre Conner’s Organization): https://naacpmemphis.org/ Memphis Citizens against Pollution (KeShaun Pearson’s Organization): https://www.memphiscap.org/ Stand Up Nashville: https://standupnashville.org/ Aftyn Behn’s website: https://www.aftynbehn.com/ Interview with Justin Pearson about the Tennessee Three story: https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/politics/justin-j-pearson-his-high-profile-public-persecution
37 MIN
JUN 25, 2026
The Data Centers Are Coming: Ep. 6 - Closing Arguments
This is it, the final episode! Danny gives us his closing arguments, reflecting on all he’s learned about the data center fight in communities across the United States. We listen in on Danny’s conversation with prolific author and tech critic Cory Doctorow about the centaur/reverse centaur theory of how we use technology and how technology uses us. And, we take another quick trip to some of the communities we’ve visited along the way: Data Center Alley in Northern Virginia, Davis, West Virginia, and Memphis, Tennessee, to get the latest on their fights. When it’s all said and done, the greatest lesson from the data center clashes may be in the value of agency, and that the way to protect communities from harmful data centers is to ensure that technology serves communities, not the other way around. In this episode, we hear from: Cory Doctorow: Science fiction author, activist and journalist whose recent books include “Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse And What To Do About It” and “The Reverse Centaur’s Guide To Life After AI.” Nikki Forrester: Helped launch Tucker United, now serves as the director of communications and spokesperson, lives in Tucker County, WV, and is a journalist. Elena Schlossenberg: Our local tour guide, and deeply involved in grassroots organizing in Prince William County and Loudoun County. She has a deep knowledge of land-use management and serves as the executive director of the Coalition to Protect Prince William County. Amber Sherman: Local policy organizer in Memphis. Delegate John McAuliff: Recently elected Delegate for Fauquier and Loudoun counties in Northern Virginia, flipping the seat by running largely on data center regulation. Samuel Black: Award-winning documentary filmmaker and journalist working with More Perfect Union. He covers tech, labor, energy, finance, housing, and U.S. politics. Resources: Corruption is Driving Up Your Electricity Bill Cory Doctorow’s blog, Craphound Samuel Black’s More Perfect Union coverage from Boxtown Local coverage from Tucker County about Fundamental Data’s visit, and how local leaders reacted The latest updates from Prince William County about the Data Center Gateway case A tool tracking every data center moratorium
48 MIN
JUN 11, 2026
The Data Centers Are Coming: Ep. 5 - A Better Way
Throughout this season, we've learned about the threats and harms data centers pose to local communities. But is there a better way to build this tech infrastructure? On this episode, Danny invites energy, broadband, and local business experts to discuss how we can build and regulate data centers in ways that keep agency within local communities. From BYONCE (Bring Your Own New Clean Energy) to transparency, and from antitrust action to community-scaled, locally owned data centers, this episode breaks down all the ways we can create a better future — one where local communities have control over what happens next. In this episode, we hear from: Stacy Mitchell: Writer, strategist, policy advocate, co-executive director of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, with a focus on the importance of small, independent businesses. Chris Mitchell: Program director at the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, who is a leading national expert on community networks, Internet access, and local broadband policies, and host of the Unbuffered podcast. John Farrell: Co-executive director of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance and leads the organization’s work on energy systems, including duties as host of the Local Energy Rules podcast. Resources: Institute for Local Self-Reliance - The Policies Communities Need to Confront the AI Data Center Race Good Jobs First - Shutting Down Data Center Subsidies Steph Speirs on TikTok - Solving the AI Power Problem AI Now Policy Institute - North Star Data Center Policy Toolkit
47 MIN
MAY 28, 2026
The Data Centers Are Coming: Ep. 4 - Transmission (Im)possible
If you’re anything like Building Local Power’s host, Danny Caine, you’ve seen your electric bill creep up and are wondering: are data centers to blame for this? Danny sets out to answer this and other burning questions about the murky way in which Big Tech’s data center arms race, public utilities, and electric bills intersect. Bringing his unanswered questions to energy experts, his neighbors, and his trusty dad, Danny aims to discover exactly how utilities make money from data center development, and if there’s any hope for our electric bills. Guest voices + context: Kevin Caine: Dad of Building Local Power host, Danny Caine, and resident of Cleveland, Ohio John Farrell: Co-director of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance and director of the Energy Democracy Initiative Cathy Kunkel: Energy consultant at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) Elena Schlossberg: Executive director of the Coalition to Protect Prince William County Andrew Chow: TIME technology correspondent who has extensively covered AI and data centers at the intersection of race over the past few years. Resources: Data Center Watch Briefing Ohio's electric bills are high — and so are utility CEO salaries The Policies Communities Need to Confront the AI Data Center Race North Star Data Center Policy Toolkit: State and Local Policy Interventions to Stop Rampant AI Data Center Expansion - AI Now Institute The People Say No: Resisting Data Centers in the South - MediaJustice Proposed Prince William data center prompts protest letter to Jeff Bezos - The Washington Post Outcry grows over proposed Prince William data center - The Washington Post
41 MIN