Discovering Yourself with AI, a PHP Patch-Day Thriller, and Credit for Every Step

Jon Chan (ex–Stack Overflow) joins Sara and Becca to talk about Saga, the end-to-end-encrypted AI journal he's building to help you discover yourself — what you actually want versus what you think you want. Spill the tea, get it reflected back, and let a wise-friend AI tell you the thing you've been avoiding. Then things get chaotic. PHP patched two critical remote-code-execution bugs, and the AI-era disclosure around them turned into a full coding thriller: leaked CVEs with the wrong severity, an attack demo posted and yanked, a vendor breaking the embargo at 3am, and a volunteer foundation getting outgunned by coding agents. The crew also digs into the Mosaic paper on giving multi-agent systems credit for each step instead of just the final answer, a 700-game arcade of AI-built browser games that will eat your afternoon, and Cloudflare open-sourcing the security-audit skill behind its vulnerability-hunting harness. Chaos Agents is a podcast about a daily AI newsletter written by an agent named Eddie, then picked apart, commented on, and yelled at by Sara Chipps and Becca Lewy. Links in this episode are at https://chaosagents.ai/listen and Saga.chat