Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

TIMESTAMPS These use the supplied transcript’s time markers; topics sometimes begin within the marked section. Time Topic 00:00 Opening song and introducing Mackenzie Phillips 03:38 Owen’s voicemail: Brad, relapse, friendship and recovery 07:58 Remembering the people who didn’t make it 10:23 Suki Jones listener comments 12:45 The original episode description and Mackenzie’s introduction 15:07 Drug memoirs, television biographies and public relapse 17:19 Recovery isn’t always a straight line 19:36 Growing up watching Mackenzie—and discovering Papa John’s story 21:59 A childhood surrounded by rock stars 24:02 Childhood neglect behind the rock-and-roll backdrop; Dad’s prized acid 26:26 Taking the Owsley acid and falling in love with cocaine 28:46 Gabor Maté, pain and generational addiction 31:09 “Just Fourteen” and the origins of High on Arrival 33:25 Being a young teenager in the seventies 35:49 Sunset Strip adventures and stealing the family drugs 38:05 From child star to working in treatment 40:26 The rehab roommate whose mother thought Mackenzie was dead 42:45 One Day at a Time, fame and her father 45:08 Jeff Sessler and the Rolling Stones’ orbit 47:17 Speed clinics, pharmaceutical cocaine and a violent marriage 49:42 Her father giving her her first cocaine injection 52:10 Ordering 500 syringes and inventing a needle-exchange excuse 54:37 London with John Phillips and Keith Richards 56:58 Early treatment stays and believing the rules didn’t apply 59:22 Pregnancy, cocaine and her son Shane 01:01:44 Parenting in addiction and finally seeking help 01:04:08 Alina Lodge, ten years sober and the One Day at a Time irony 01:06:17 Writing about sexual abuse by her father 01:08:44 Family estrangement and the backlash to telling her story 01:11:05 Other survivors, her father’s death and the road into relapse 01:15:39 Helping people out of addiction—and needing help herself 01:18:02 Drug dealers in her son’s room and the Rachael Ray invitation 01:20:19 Dragon pants, her dog’s syringes and airport security 01:22:36 The bag of drugs falls out—and the arrest saves her life 01:24:58 Jail, withdrawal and her son walking into the intervention 01:27:19 Coming home sober and going back to school 01:29:47 Letting your freak flag fly sober 01:31:54 Mick Jagger and the Phillips tuna salad story 01:36:40 Ronnie Wood, touring and child stardom 01:39:08 Childhood trauma and the need to escape 01:41:29 Mackenzie on owning her whole story 01:43:48 Dave reflects; listener support and Spotify comments 01:48:32 Credits, Tony O’Neill preview and Jake’s introduction 01:50:11 Jake from West Virginia: “I Wanna Be Good So Bad”

Time Topic 00:23 Welcome to the Beatles Wednesday Wild Card 02:46 Spiritual dollars and making time for recovery 04:00 Mr. Jason’s story: first time smoking meth in San Francisco 07:36 Three days awake; Dave remembers Todd and North Hollywood 10:02 Maia Szalavitz Patreon comments 12:24 A listener’s recovery message and introducing Ian 14:13 Ian Leslie interview begins 16:36 Discovering the Beatles; Dave’s early listening memories 18:58 Why John and Paul’s relationship needed its own book 23:00 Phil Collins, Paul McCartney and taking things personally 26:02 John person or Paul person? 28:25 Losing their mothers and the bond of shared grief 30:45 John’s childhood, abandonment and instability 33:06 Did the Beatles make drugs appealing to Dave? 35:29 Speed, Hamburg and the attack of the early Beatles 37:41 Drinking, performing and what counted as “drugs” 39:46 Tea, cigarettes and the songwriting routine 42:08 Bob Dylan introduces the Beatles to marijuana 44:22 Misheard lyrics and getting stoned together 46:45 Fame, isolation and the Beatles’ private world 49:08 “Ticket to Ride” as a stoner record 51:30 “We Can Work It Out” and John’s changing perspective 53:52 LSD, less alcohol and Lennon mellowing out 56:17 Paul’s caution about acid; John’s accidental trip 58:39 The Abbey Road rooftop and John and Paul tripping together 01:00:57 Staring into each other’s eyes; Paul’s cocaine use 01:03:24 Drugs getting out of hand and the story of “Let It Be” 01:05:43 India, disillusionment and the turn toward heroin 01:08:01 How much heroin did Lennon actually use? ~01:11:00 “Two of Us” and songs as communication 01:12:41 “Oh! Darling,” “Don’t Let Me Down” and “Jealous Guy” 01:15:09 Songs can be about more than one person 01:17:33 Insecurity, “The End” and the lyric Ian left unquoted 01:19:38 Paul living with John’s death and their unfinished relationship 01:21:59 Two of Us and Ian’s next Beatles project 01:24:10 Final Beatles lesson; interview ends and Dave returns 01:26:32 Maia episode Spotify comments 01:28:55 Production credits and goodbye ~01:30 Closing music 01:34:10 Brief conversation after the song

Timestamps - 00:01 — Ray’s Dopey theme song - 00:52 — Ray returns and remembers recording the theme - 02:00 — Police questions and a prospective porn-star guest - 03:18 — Porn at work, coprophilia and the ashes on the shelf - 05:39 — Scat singing, Popeye and comfort cartoons - 07:59 — Clarifying the porn coworker versus the man whose ashes were left behind - 10:19 — Ray agrees to try engineering; new gear and studio plans - 12:36 — Ray’s skin-cancer surgery and healing scar - 15:04 — Scar cover stories, Tylenol and the alleged “hunt for Xannies” - 17:25 — Mary Woronov, amphetamines and the mole people - 19:39 — Heart Attack Doug’s health and reaching out for help - ~21:00 — Helping a caller find AA and unexpected Dopey listeners - 22:08 — Patreon tease, Hunter Biden at 92NY and goodbye - ~23:00 — Closing music SEO

Timestamps Times refer to this upload; ~ marks a topic beginning inside a transcript block. - 00:15 — Welcome to Total Replay 52 - 02:19 — Revisiting the recording, Chris, and Nick - ~03:00 — Struggling while abstinent; sponsor, steps and getting back on track - 04:42 — Merch, Hunter Biden event and garage infestations - 07:04 — Bailey’s story: crack, camping and beer darts - 09:25 — Abortion money, a dangerous ride and calling Mom - 11:46 — Patreon comments from Total Replay 51 - 14:05 — Spotify comments and remembering Chris - 16:51 — Original episode begins: Nick Reiner returns - 18:58 — Chris’s people pleasing - 20:55 — The fish tank argument - 23:15 — Apartment descriptions and an accidental voice message - 25:34 — Nick’s birthday and basketball at the Cage - 27:44 — Ankle injury and getting laughed off the court - 29:55 — Pain pills, cravings and urgent care - 32:15 — Turning down medication to show up clearheaded for Dopey - 34:40 — Coming clean about the previous appearance - 37:05 — Dave’s harmonica performance - 37:28 — Reading the bad review - 39:29 — A good review, regret and turning suffering into material - 41:39 — Parents, treatment and blame - 42:51 — Chris leaves his dad’s number on a restaurant bill - 45:09 — Dating, pickup lines and “Horny the Shark” - 47:22 — Dave feels shut out of his own show - 49:10 — Nick’s Wellbutrin injection story - 51:09 — The homeless man, the Reiner name and getting medication at Alina Lodge - 55:27 — Benzo withdrawal and Chris injecting psychiatric medication - 57:44 — Cigarettes, vaping and Chris’s seizures - 01:00:10 — Heroin, 90210 and the Mexican-food delivery disaster - 01:02:21 — Two men down and one confused delivery guy - 01:04:37 — Roulette, Obama and life at Alina Lodge - 01:06:50 — Nick begins the bad acid trip story - 01:08:55 — Panic, waking his parents and asking for help - 01:11:17 — Rob Reiner talks Nick through the trip - 01:13:39 — Goodbye and Cormac’s song

time stamps: | 00:00 | Dopey opening songs | | 03:22 | Welcome, Johnny Peppers and social media hate | | ~05:00 | Joanna’s voicemail: clinging to a speeding trailer in freezing weather | | ~12:00 | Listener email: a suspected drink-spiking experience | | ~17:00 | Benjamin Tod Patreon comments and the meaning of relapse | | ~24:00 | Listener relapse story: DMT, meth and a terrifying memory blackout | | **31:57** | **Sam Miller returns** | | 34:13 | AK-47 tattoos, smoking “beans” and trying to look tough | | ~38:00 | Getting arrested on mushrooms on the Fourth of July | | ~40:00 | Being sent to the Yakima jail | | 43:26 | Dave’s comfortable addiction versus Sam’s life on the street | | 45:50 | Comedy Store nerves, ego and meeting comedy heroes | | 48:15 | The invitation that meant everything—and backstage awkwardness | | 54:57 | The fish tattoo and the party where Sam peed on everyone | | 57:21 | A woman talks an armed man out of hurting Sam | | 59:43 | Seeing someone from the past brings it all back | | 01:02:06 | Higher power, connection and feeling understood | | 01:04:28 | Sam’s other pee story: the stranger at the urinal | | ~01:10:00 | Dave’s nighttime confusion and kitchen garbage can | | 01:13:39 | Olympia, hometown pride and being welcomed back | | 01:16:00 | Battle rapping, football cleats and the summer of meth | | 01:18:20 | Making up Kurt Cobain stories and pretending to work at SeaWorld | | 01:20:38 | “At-risk dolphins,” compulsive lying and hating yourself | | 01:22:48 | Roddy Bottum, Faith No More and friendship | | 01:25:08 | Drug and brain chemistry debate | | ~01:28:00 | Alan interrupts with baked ziti | | 01:31:56 | Alan takes the speedball-versus-goofball quiz | | 01:34:15 | Benzo withdrawal and the eagle-woman dream | | 01:36:41 | Losing the Forest Service job and crying over a dishwashing job | | 01:40:10 | A listener tells Sam his recovery stories matter | | 01:42:31 | Sponsoring someone using marijuana; psychedelics in recovery | | 01:44:55 | Why Sam doesn’t want to risk the life he has | | 01:47:06 | Road meetings and an unforgettable CA meeting | | ~01:48:00 | Justin: friendship, sponsorship and a traumatic Christmas phone call | | 01:53:05 | Learning Justin had died and grieving in recovery | | 01:55:56 | Service, sponsorship boundaries and Dave’s push to reconsider | | 01:57:53 | Friendship, future shows and wrapping up with Sam | | 02:00:17 | Post-interview announcements and Benjamin Tod Spotify comments | | ~02:07:00 | Howie joins: studio setup and podcast talk | | 02:11:40 | Fruit, Rick Glassman and Armchair Expert | | 02:16:19 | Wall Street Journal profile discussion | | 02:18:37 | DopeyCon at SVA and the future of Dopey Feud | | 02:23:29 | AI talk and closing | | 02:24:36 | Closing music |