Episode 398 - The Divide Between Pastors and Entrepreneurs | Tom Nelson

Host Justin Forman sits down with Tom Nelson, senior pastor and founder of Made to Flourish, for a conversation about how pastors and entrepreneurs can rebuild the bridge between Sunday worship and Monday work. Five years into pastoral ministry, Tom stood before his congregation and confessed what he called pastoral malpractice. He had been more concerned with how he did on Sunday than with how his people did in their Monday world. That confession started a 30-year journey toward becoming a church for Monday. Tom has pastored for 37 years and leads Christ Community Church. He founded Made to Flourish, a network of roughly 17,000 pastors who equip their congregations to integrate faith, work, and economic wisdom. He is the author of several books on vocation, most recently Why Your Work Matters, and his work has carried him into a national and global conversation on faith and work. Key Topics: - Why work existed before the fall, and what the first verb in the Bible reveals about God - Rabbi Heschel's warning that we "see what we know rather than know what we see" - Redefining work as contribution before compensation in the age of AI - The parallels between first-century Roman roads and today's global marketplace - Workplace visits and This Time Tomorrow, two simple practices transforming churches - Overcoming the mutual intimidation between pastors and entrepreneurs - Why faith and work should be woven into everything a church does instead of added as a department Every entrepreneur who has wondered whether their church sees their Monday will find language and practical next steps here. Tom names a starting point for pastors, and the conversation hands entrepreneurs a simple invitation to extend in return. Watch the full episode on YouTube or continue to stream audio on your favorite podcast platform.