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Jaime Taets, Owner, President & Founder
Redefining Success After the Title Is Gone: Dr. Linda Schubring on Identity, Control & Healing
SEP 8, 202646 MIN
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Description
What happens when the mountain you finally climbed disappears beneath your feet? Dr. Linda Schubring faced that exact moment and learned that losing a job doesn't mean losing your purpose.
Dr. Linda Schubring joins Jaime Taets for an honest conversation about leadership, identity, resilience, and what it really takes to heal. Linda shares her journey from aspiring college president to reaching a leadership role at 29, losing that position, rebuilding her identity, becoming a mother and business owner, and navigating a breast cancer diagnosis. Along the way, she discovered that our hardest experiences can become sources of wisdom, connection, and contribution. Together, Linda and Jaime explore why leaders need to manage their hunger for control and importance, how to separate identity from work, and what it really means to heal.
If you're navigating transition, redefining success, or leading through uncertainty, this conversation will give you a different way to think about what's next.
Timestamped Chapters
0:00 Introduction to Dr. Linda Schubring
2:18 Linda's leadership journey: the mountaintop
4:04 You can have more than one mountain
6:15 Three lessons from reaching the top
11:42 When success doesn't protect you from setbacks
14:11 Separating your identity from your work
17:00 Turning difficult experiences into contribution
21:59 Learning to heal through adversity
28:23 What Linda had to unlearn
29:24 Redefining success
31:24 Managing your hungers for control and importance
34:20 Managing your energy as a leader
38:40 Hope, resilience, and leadership
42:46 Linda's book and leadership influences
44:10 Reflect, act, reflect
Guest Bio
Dr. Linda Schubring is a leadership coach, author, speaker, and co-founder of Leadership Vision Consulting. She helps leaders, teams, and organizations become healthier, more engaged, and better equipped to navigate uncertainty and change. She is also the national bestselling author of Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane.
Quotes from the Episode
"You can lose your job, but that doesn't mean you lose your purpose."
"Healing is different from moving on."
"Reflect, act, reflect, act, reflect, act."
Leadership Insights
Q: What does it mean to manage your hunger as a leader?
A: Managing your hunger means recognizing and regulating the internal drives that can influence how you lead. Drawing from the adaptive leadership work of Ron Heifetz and Marty Linsky, Dr. Linda Schubring explains that leaders need to manage their hunger for control and their hunger for importance rather than allowing those desires to control their behavior. When leaders don't manage what drives them, they can become rigid, defensive, or disconnected from the people they lead.
Q: Why is separating identity from work important for leaders?
A: Separating identity from work allows leaders to recognize that losing a role, title, or position does not mean losing their purpose or worth. Linda's experience of having her leadership position eliminated forced her to reconsider who she was beyond her career. That separation ultimately opened the door to new forms of leadership, family, business, and contribution. When you know who you are beyond your title, you lead with more freedom and less fear.
Resources
Connect with Dr. Linda Schubring on LinkedIn
Follow Leadership Vision on Instagram
Leadership on the Line: Staying Alive Through the Dangers of Leading — Ron Heifetz & Marty Linsky
Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane — Dr. Linda Schubring
Leadership Vision Consulting
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