Jezebel Pastors: Cutting Off the Viper's Head | An Interview with Matt Slick

In this episode of Goon Tavern, we examine some of the most frequently cited biblical examples used to argue for women pastors—including Deborah, Priscilla, Phoebe, and Miriam—and compare those passages with the biblical qualifications and responsibilities given to pastors and elders. Plus, a special interview with Matt Slick from CARM (Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry). We sit down with Matt to discuss biblical authority, women in church leadership, the arguments commonly used to support women pastors, and how Christians should approach these difficult passages. The battle over biblical leadership in the church continues. In June 2026, the Southern Baptist Convention faced renewed controversy surrounding the role of women in pastoral leadership. What does Scripture actually teach about pastors, elders, and the authority of men and women within the church? And why does the question continue to divide Christians after centuries of debate? Is the modern church rapidly adopting feminist ideas under the banner of equality? Has a softer, more subtle form of feminism entered the church without being recognized for what it is? And what happens when churches begin redefining biblical leadership to accommodate modern cultural expectations? We also discuss the responsibility of pastors and elders to stand firm when biblical convictions become unpopular—and the responsibility of Christian women who disagree with female pastoral leadership to speak honestly rather than remaining silent. The question isn't whether women have value, intelligence, gifts, or an important place in the church. Scripture clearly teaches that they do. The question is: What roles has God actually established for men and women within His church? If the church refuses to confront false teaching at its root, what happens when the serpent is allowed to keep growing? It's time for pastors and elders to take biblical leadership seriously. Sometimes the answer has to be: No. Find more articles and helpful ministry tools at Matt Slick's website at carm.org Subscribe, share, and join the conversation.