Janet Ellis on the Joy of this One Life | New President of Humanists UK

⁠Support Humanism Now & Join Our Community!⁠ Check out our new website! www.humanism.now "I genuinely find comfort in the fact that life is finite." — Janet Ellis She shaped the childhoods of millions on Blue Peter, and now she's making the case for living well without religion. Janet Ellis, broadcaster, actress, novelist and the new President of Humanists UK, joins James for a warm, wide-ranging conversation about how she came to humanism, what it offers in turbulent times, and why she finds genuine comfort in the idea that this life is the only one we get. We talk about her film All We Have Is Each Other, grief and mortality after the loss of her husband, finding joy without guilt, whether Blue Peter was quietly humanist, how to talk to children about belief without indoctrination, the joy of writing, and her hopes for her time as President. About the guest Janet Ellis MBE is a broadcaster, actress and novelist, known to generations for presenting Blue Peter and Jigsaw. She is the author of the novels The Butcher's Hook and How It Was, hosts the podcast Twice Upon a Time, and in 2026 became President of Humanists UK. Links and references All We Have Is Each Other, the Humanists UK film with Janet Ellis: https://humanists.uk/janetellisfilm/ Janet Ellis, Humanists UK profile: https://humanists.uk/about/our-people/patrons/janet-ellis/ Twice Upon a Time, Janet's podcast on favourite childhood books (@twiceuponapod): https://linktr.ee/twiceuponpod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/missjanetellis/ Substack: https://janetellis925764.substack.com/ Janet's novels: The Butcher's Hook (2016): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35407568 How It Was (2019): https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/45901019-how-it-was In this episode Her slow realisation of being a humanist, joining Humanists UK, and stepping up from patron to president Grief, mortality and the film All We Have Is Each Other: why she finds comfort, not fear, in a finite life Finding joy in turbulent times, talking to children about belief without indoctrination, and a call for humanists to be "out and proud" Chapters: 00:00 Introduction: meet Janet Ellis 01:10 A slow realisation: discovering humanism 02:47 From patron to President of Humanists UK 05:07 Being publicly affiliated, and the conversations it starts 07:53 "All We Have Is Each Other": grief and a finite life 11:45 Finding joy in turbulent times 18:45 Blue Peter: was it a humanist show? 23:07 Talking to children about belief without indoctrination 27:18 Books that shaped her worldview 32:05 The joy of writing 36:53 Her hopes as President of Humanists UK 44:24 Closing question: changing minds Support Humanism Now & Join Our Community! www.humanism.now Follow @HumanismNowPod | YouTube | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | Threads | X.com | BlueSky Humanism Now is produced by Humanise Live, a podcast production agency based in London, serving charities, companies, and individuals across the globe. Contact us to get started in podcasting today at humanise.live or [email protected]. Music: Blossom by Light Prism Podcast transcripts are AI-generated and may contain errors or omissions. They are provided to make our content more accessible, but should not be considered a fully accurate record of the conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices